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marybourg

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13. I don't think anyone ignored anything.
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 07:43 PM
Jul 2017

Last night's storm popped up extremely suddenly, was unusually violent, and I, at least, got no warning of either storm or flash flood until much too late for those folks to do anything. The warning - when it came - was nearly hysterical in nature - (Get out of the water immediately! Leave the area immediately!) There was no audible signal, at least from my carrier, Verizon, and the nature of desert storms and desert terrain (narrow canyons which fill up very quickly and flow down to areas where the weather is still calm also very quickly) makes episodes like this tragic but almost inevitable, especially as population increases in the desert

From the LOCAL paper:

"The thunderstorm hit about 8 miles upstream along Ellison Creek, which quickly flooded the narrow canyon where the swimmers were enjoying a cool dip a on a hot summer day.

"They had no warning. They heard a roar and it was on top of them," Sattelmaier said.
One of the first responders told the Arizona Republic that it was a "6 foot tall, 40 foot wide black wave" moving at 45 mph through a narrow canyon. It took down trees and boulders and soot and ash from the fire scar.

There had been thunderstorms throughout the area near Payson, about an hour and half's drive from Phoenix, but it wasn't raining where the swimmers were. During monsoon season, weather like this can strike furiously."

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2017/07/16/payson-flash-flood-results-four-deaths/482805001/


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This message was self-deleted by its author pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #1
I'm so sorry to hear that. Kittycow Jul 2017 #2
Sad but those pesky alerts on your cell phone should be heeded... Historic NY Jul 2017 #3
I don't know but the first thing I do after my first cup of coffee malaise Jul 2017 #4
same here... chillfactor Jul 2017 #7
I'm going to be working in ABQ for a few weeks--when is official monsoon season? rainbow4321 Jul 2017 #20
I get them all the time in Chicago. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2017 #9
Chicago has the infrastructure to deal with flash floods LeftInTX Jul 2017 #17
Is there even cell phone service in this park? Renew Deal Jul 2017 #26
I have a Cold Spring Canyon story... hunter Jul 2017 #5
Tell us n/t malaise Jul 2017 #6
Tales too ticklish to tell... nudity. hunter Jul 2017 #12
I hear you malaise Jul 2017 #14
frightening! boston bean Jul 2017 #8
Eight dead reported now. panader0 Jul 2017 #10
ABC also had the figure at eight malaise Jul 2017 #11
Nine dead. One still missing ThoughtCriminal Jul 2017 #18
Yep when I was 2 years my Dad burrowowl Jul 2017 #22
I don't think anyone ignored anything. marybourg Jul 2017 #13
Thanks for your details malaise Jul 2017 #16
This also. Your link. sheshe2 Jul 2017 #21
My link also said there were flash flood warnings malaise Jul 2017 #24
I am guessing the area they in also didn't have cell coverage rufus dog Jul 2017 #23
Close to where I live. Very close. ThoughtCriminal Jul 2017 #15
Sad to read this. Snackshack Jul 2017 #19
Very sad news. nt oasis Jul 2017 #25
Sadly, there's no cell coverage where the victims were at, so they wouldn't have gotten the warning chia Jul 2017 #27
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