If it's out of bounds to keep attacking Hillary, it's out of bounds to keep attacking Bernie.

[Ken Burch]

129. Most of my posts aren't about him. They are about US.

My point is, there is an active effort not only to go after him in this party but to drive as many of his supporters away from active involvement in this party as possible

They can't be expected to be involved in this party if a precondition is that they have to give up having any group identity and accept the idea that everything in their agenda is against the interests of "the Democratic base".

Can we please just proceed on the following assumptions?

1) We are PAST the "economic justice OR social justice" debate. Campaign phraseology aside, those two movements agree on the agenda about 90-95% of the time. Many people work actively for both causes. Those causes have been largely aligned since at least the early Seventies and are growing more and more in agreement all of the time.

2) No supporter of any past candidate can be assumed to share the shortcomings others found in that candidate.

3) We need as many votes as we can get. If we focus solely on fighting voter suppression-which we obviously do need to do-that can't give us enough votes in and of itself to win, or at least not to win by the kind of margin we need to elect a Congress that will actually pass transformational legislation.

4) We can add a lot of votes we didn't last time without doing ANYTHING that would betray our current base.

I'm simply posting as somebody who wants us to win.

And at this point, I don't personally have a candidate for 2020.