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Honeycombe8

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73. Most of those you name who ARE relevant...

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 12:49 PM

Jul 2017

are from the 60s (Bowie, Grateful Dead, Clapton). I mentioned exceptions like Prince & Michael Jackson.

The others you mention are not music for the centuries. Popular in their day. I love The Pretenders. Even have a CD. But most people don't know who they are, now. And they certainly won't 50 years from now.

Music for the centuries: Beatles, Dylan, Bowie, Sinatra.

The ones you list are sort of like Rudy Valee was in the 1920s. Very popular and a swooner at the time. We still know who he was, but his music was very stylized for the decade and relevant to that decade...but no more.

That's what I mean. You and some others loving it aren't the judge of time.

Reggae isn't a group. It's a genre of music that was developed in the 1960s.

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America's current situation is just chickens from the '80s coming home to roost [View all] misanthrope Jul 2017 OP

Agree wryter2000 Jul 2017 #1

Careful using that phrase, "Chickens coming home to roost". gtar100 Jul 2017 #2

"a slight tinge of guilt perhaps?" FiveGoodMen Jul 2017 #91

The 80's were awful. Solly Mack Jul 2017 #3

Yes! Alice11111 Jul 2017 #61

that's what I tell people all the time.. this didn't happen overnight nini Jul 2017 #4

all we have to do is fix the fucking radio now certainot Jul 2017 #67

My first election was in 1980 and I was 18. I do not have fond memories. BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #5

And he took away my Pell grant. progressoid Jul 2017 #44

the texas textbook commission- the beginning of the dumbing down of the u.s. mopinko Jul 2017 #6

I think of the 80s as "The Great Abdication" . . . hatrack Jul 2017 #7

Even Dennis Miller Mr.Bill Jul 2017 #9

I once said that my Boy Scout troop could've taken Grenada.... lastlib Jul 2017 #13

Well, we can't have people focusing on 220 dead Marines in Beirut can we? misanthrope Jul 2017 #28

People forget just how much this country indulges republican fuck wittery Cosmocat Jul 2017 #52

Very well said! misanthrope Jul 2017 #27

well said, noble hatrack 0rganism Jul 2017 #39

the reagan bush treason was discovered but they killed the fairness doctrine certainot Jul 2017 #66

Reagan tripled the national debt and the cons called him a hero BeyondGeography Jul 2017 #8

And don't forget Mr.Bill Jul 2017 #10

And the ascendancy of the so-called Religious Right BeyondGeography Jul 2017 #12

Yeah, the 80s debacle in science, environment and public health . . . . hatrack Jul 2017 #60

The warnings about Greenhouse Effect had been out misanthrope Jul 2017 #85

Except Keynes would have kicked him in the balls for doing what he did jmowreader Jul 2017 #17

That changed in the years preceding Reagan's election. misanthrope Jul 2017 #30

Not to mention . . . HughBeaumont Jul 2017 #57

I remember the 80's as the beginning of the assault against women katmondoo Jul 2017 #11

Well, the beginning of the backlash against whatever feminism had been able to accomplish in the 60s meadowlander Jul 2017 #108

The 80's should be a lesson for everyone who thinks that "Burn It Down" VermontKevin Jul 2017 #14

70's, We were not much better... mgardener Jul 2017 #15

Ronald Reagan The Wizard Jul 2017 #16

Thank you Alice11111 Jul 2017 #63

You're exactly right, I love the eighties, why wouldn't a 19-year-old MiddleClass Jul 2017 #18

"Bill Clinton was a breath of fresh air" misanthrope Jul 2017 #31

You had to be convicted of a crime, to be hurt by that MiddleClass Jul 2017 #33

America did not want an FDR at the time. Dawson Leery Jul 2017 #99

Sometimes the ugly truth pops up and stops me in my tracks. democrank Jul 2017 #19

Agree with your analysis bucolic_frolic Jul 2017 #20

Greed, for the lack of a better term, is good MiddleClass Jul 2017 #22

In the 80s we got Raygun. It all began there. kairos12 Jul 2017 #21

John Lennon murdered in Dec.1980. ms liberty Jul 2017 #23

The 80s was a desert, as far as music. I'm unfamiliar with a lot of the... Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #24

I respectfully disagree Alpeduez21 Jul 2017 #53

Most of those you name who ARE relevant... Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #73

Wow, you have missed a lot!! Coventina Jul 2017 #59

50 yrs from now, most people won't know who those people are or those songs. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #72

All righty then. Coventina Jul 2017 #74

More prophecy. LanternWaste Jul 2017 #87

I'm not criticizing people & music you like to hurt your feelings. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #95

I dig a lot of that list and others in this tangent misanthrope Jul 2017 #86

I think the quality stuff (as discussed here) will be durable, however. Coventina Jul 2017 #92

Yup. Its not our fault. It is our parents' fault. TomCADem Jul 2017 #25

I do see the reality of what was going on in the world in the eighties. Doreen Jul 2017 #26

For me, it was the Nixon pardon. displacedtexan Jul 2017 #29

We also came dangerously close to a nuclear war ThoughtCriminal Jul 2017 #32

Reagan made greed and idiocy fashionable Skittles Jul 2017 #34

Someone's relationship with a period in time is pretty personal Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2017 #35

yuppies. spanone Jul 2017 #36

Great writing! Spot on. BadGimp Jul 2017 #37

America chose greed. Dawson Leery Jul 2017 #38

Yep, I thought it took guts to deliver his "malaise" speech misanthrope Jul 2017 #41

Yes, the 80's were a belligerent repudiation of Jimmy Carter and the direction he laid out for us. NBachers Jul 2017 #62

In all fairness, I think the SUV trend revved up in the 1990s. misanthrope Jul 2017 #84

How did you like the 90s? oberliner Jul 2017 #40

In some ways misanthrope Jul 2017 #42

It was exciting to finally have a Democrat in the White House oberliner Jul 2017 #43

I thought bigotry was less excusable as well. Lyricalinklines Jul 2017 #46

NOPE - it got worse Cosmocat Jul 2017 #56

I agree with your timely, well written post. I'd like to add... Lyricalinklines Jul 2017 #45

Maybe it began with the invention of television BainsBane Jul 2017 #47

The 80s was the start of the class war against the middle and working class. Yavin4 Jul 2017 #48

I never understood runaway inflation of the seventies MiddleClass Jul 2017 #81

Yup that scum Rayguns started the ball rolling workinclasszero Jul 2017 #49

Well written, sir! chwaliszewski Jul 2017 #50

The fall of nixon madokie Jul 2017 #51

I can't despise the 80's because I was a child then. Zing Zing Zingbah Jul 2017 #54

same crazycatlady Jul 2017 #100

Yeah, I thought the 80's were good times Zing Zing Zingbah Jul 2017 #105

I don't remember the Challenger crazycatlady Jul 2017 #106

The 80's were when I realized how soulless and empty this country really is. alarimer Jul 2017 #55

We had a president who asked nothing of us and blamed all ills on "the other". Boomerproud Jul 2017 #104

yes and no... Javaman Jul 2017 #58

Without Reagan, that SCOTUS doesn't exist. misanthrope Jul 2017 #89

I remember it too well. byronius Jul 2017 #64

Greed is good. shockey80 Jul 2017 #65

Trumpism is zentrum Jul 2017 #68

I remember election night, 1980. TygrBright Jul 2017 #69

Meh the 80s we're awesome Egnever Jul 2017 #70

Please, please do not forget Reagan's vicious . . FairWinds Jul 2017 #71

Well said mdbl Jul 2017 #75

Totally in agreement with the exception of music. YOHABLO Jul 2017 #76

As I explained to another poster, the good stuff was mostly underground misanthrope Jul 2017 #90

Bingo. This coup started with Reagan. broadcaster90210 Jul 2017 #77

Reagan's trick, bad decisions and poor educations are the roosting chickens. Democrats_win Jul 2017 #78

Great rant! Also, Reagan colluded with Iran to manipulate U.S. election and in doing so kept suffragette Jul 2017 #79

k and r!!!!!! niyad Jul 2017 #80

I grew up in the DC Suburbs, went off to College in 1978, came back in 1983 Burma Jones Jul 2017 #82

and the teevee gnewz still sucking raygun's balls. pansypoo53219 Jul 2017 #83

Very good analysis Hekate Jul 2017 #88

I usually find Bill Maher obnoxious, but he accurately nailed Reagan for our problems today. robertpaulsen Jul 2017 #93

Precisely misanthrope Jul 2017 #97

Thanks. Watching it later. underpants Jul 2017 #101

Completely agree with your assessment GetRidOfThem Jul 2017 #94

I agree 100% joanbarnes Jul 2017 #96

This is when the Republicans began really using propaganda - Newt Gingrich's "Contract With America kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2017 #98

Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous underpants Jul 2017 #102

This was my father's theme toward the end of his life Awsi Dooger Jul 2017 #103

Good for your father in dedicating his life to education misanthrope Jul 2017 #109

That is when Newt Gingrich came up with his propaganda tools - used to this day. It was cited kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2017 #107