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13. Perhaps you have a better explanation for why the dems have lost

Reply to Eko (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 08:19 PM

Jul 2017

The Whitehouse, the Senate and the House. Sure Trump lied, but the message was one for the middle class.

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Why we need Bernie - like him or not.... [View all] ciaobaby Jul 2017 OP

What??? Eko Jul 2017 #1

Thanks, it's an unsustainable, abstract and completely detached dialogue. R B Garr Jul 2017 #4

Yeah, Eko Jul 2017 #6

Yup, I just made potato salad for the 4th -- corporate mayonaisse, corporate R B Garr Jul 2017 #7

Ben and Jerry's account for a tiny fraction of the corporations in America. progressoid Jul 2017 #24

Then surely you agree Eko Jul 2017 #25

Yes, tiny fraction. progressoid Jul 2017 #30

Well now, Eko Jul 2017 #33

Maybe you could point out some more of them too. progressoid Jul 2017 #39

Blue Bell Ice Cream Corp. people had to die before they cleaned up their manufacturing plant(s). Sunlei Jul 2017 #81

Sure, there were a few nazis who were actually pretty nice people, so we shouldn't demonize nazis.. Kentonio Jul 2017 #45

+1 nt Fresh_Start Jul 2017 #53

But that is an absolute truth... Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #9

This from the person Eko Jul 2017 #10

... Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #11

I guess maybe Eko Jul 2017 #12

You mean like Amazon, Kaiser Permanente, Boeing Co, Alphabet Inc(Google) snooper2 Jul 2017 #59

Thank you for posting this. nt betsuni Jul 2017 #60

Corporations do not donate to candidates... only employees... Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #61

So then the whole schtick about "Wall Street donations" R B Garr Jul 2017 #65

It's important to note... Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #68

No, that's not important to note. Look how your R B Garr Jul 2017 #69

No, these are just facts from Open Secrets... Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #71

No, insinuating one politician is corrupt and one R B Garr Jul 2017 #73

Nope. No insinuations at all... Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #75

So the whole "Wall Street" this and that R B Garr Jul 2017 #82

What "'Wall Street' this and that" are you referring to? Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #83

Lol, of course not. That's why you just posted a link R B Garr Jul 2017 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Jul 2017 #86

Another point is one politician has a huge following while another is almost certainly not pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #72

Exactly. A well-known candidate isn't corrupt just for R B Garr Jul 2017 #74

Yes. This is the challenge. Continually directing to realty. It is very challenging with all the pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #97

I know what you mean. Sometimes you can't even use actual print media, etc. R B Garr Jul 2017 #100

Right. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #101

I especially like how you draw distinctions lacking any relevant difference LanternWaste Jul 2017 #99

Perhaps you have a better explanation for why the dems have lost ciaobaby Jul 2017 #13

3 million more votes for Clinton. Eko Jul 2017 #15

As we all know - unfortunately - we elect the president by the electoral college. ciaobaby Jul 2017 #17

There is a lot to parse there. Eko Jul 2017 #20

I'll give you the gerrymandering issue. ciaobaby Jul 2017 #21

I only dismiss those Eko Jul 2017 #22

We can agree on that. ciaobaby Jul 2017 #23

If that conclusion is what you took away from it, then that's frankly bizarre Kentonio Jul 2017 #46

I agree with you on that. Scruffy1 Jul 2017 #47

And of course, by voting against her radical noodle Jul 2017 #29

maybe the alt-left messaging that speeches to wall street corruption had something to do with it Fresh_Start Jul 2017 #54

Wake me when this board and others realize what is going on here. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #79

Just like during the primaries it will be too late here. :-( n/t seaglass Jul 2017 #96

Facts please: folks whose top concerns are Jobs/Economy voted for HRC emulatorloo Jul 2017 #92

Trump didn't cheat!?!?! WTF!?! YCHDT Jul 2017 #44

He is not a Democrat. This board is dedicated to Democrats and those who support them. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #76

Unless of course you have negative things to say about Sanders. ciaobaby Jul 2017 #78

I cant openly tell the truth about Bernie here, and what he and Thom have done to Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #80

Of course you can tell the "truth" about Bernie ciaobaby Jul 2017 #95

TOS allows for constructive criticism, as you know. If you see something that violates the TOS emulatorloo Jul 2017 #93

If he ran as independent he would have _ruined_ the GENERAL ELECTION for the D party. Sunlei Jul 2017 #84

Like I said, I am not allowed to tell the truth about what is happening and who is doing it. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #87

Not allowed? I love Bernie Sanders, we need to clone that man! Sunlei Jul 2017 #88

Uh huh Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #90

I love Hillary too. They would have won HUGE as Pres & VP. Sunlei Jul 2017 #91

Well, I think in some cases it is obviously true Samantha Jul 2017 #37

+1 nt Fresh_Start Jul 2017 #52

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez . . . . HughBeaumont Jul 2017 #57

The irony of taking political advice from a white male billionaire is not lost on me. VermontKevin Jul 2017 #2

recommended H2O Man Jul 2017 #3

K&R! nt riderinthestorm Jul 2017 #5

How is mayor Heath Mello these days? How about Russ feingold and zephyr teachout? La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2017 #8

Exactly Me. Jul 2017 #19

Or President Hillary Clinton? David__77 Jul 2017 #26

She won the popular vote and the primary La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2017 #51

Hillary lost the vote to Trump in each one of those places as well virtualobserver Jul 2017 #28

But isn't the whole point that this approach appeals to the wwc? La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2017 #50

No, it isn't merely about appealing to the white working class..... virtualobserver Jul 2017 #56

lol quist and mello didn't run with Hillary at the top La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2017 #62

I guess that is why they dramatically outperformed Hillary....LOL virtualobserver Jul 2017 #64

But they didn't win and Mello was antichoice and elevating that La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2017 #67

The attacks on Mello were based on lies from the WSJ and the Washington Post virtualobserver Jul 2017 #70

We don't need Bernie. We need each other! nikibatts Jul 2017 #14

Sanders is HUGE part of the 'each other'... Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #16

Absolutely true - if by "we" you include millennials and independents. ciaobaby Jul 2017 #18

Steyer is thinking of running for President rather than run for Governor of California... virtualobserver Jul 2017 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #31

So wait - does that mean if Sanders got the nomination to run against Trump ciaobaby Jul 2017 #34

Sanders doesn't have a chance in hell to win the Democratic nomination. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #35

So you can't answer that one? OK ciaobaby Jul 2017 #41

In 2020 he'll be almost 80. The window has closed on his presidential ambitions. brush Jul 2017 #55

Sanders could not win the Democratic base before and he is further from winning now. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #66

Not a chance in hell. I don't think the party will stake it's future on someone who used the party Tarheel_Dem Jul 2017 #105

After bashing and trashing. I agree, I am pretty confident it is not gonna happen. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #107

Oh, man Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #32

We need Bernie and yes I like him. Bluepinky Jul 2017 #36

Well said. ciaobaby Jul 2017 #38

Thank you! Bluepinky Jul 2017 #48

Very simplistic. I have worked for a large company of 56K plus and now a small company, less than seaglass Jul 2017 #98

My response was simplistic, just the thoughts of someone without a business or financial background. Bluepinky Jul 2017 #104

I disagree Foamfollower Jul 2017 #40

Absolutely! Lunabell Jul 2017 #42

K&R mvd Jul 2017 #43

We have many great democrats fighting this battle. Nt NCTraveler Jul 2017 #49

Yes. emulatorloo Jul 2017 #94

America HAS Bernie, already. MineralMan Jul 2017 #58

LOL.. no nini Jul 2017 #63

Insurance of ALL types, Dairy, Foods,Medicine,MEAT, and plenty of otherCorporations-are at war vs Sunlei Jul 2017 #77

Bernie's fighting hard in the Senate. Hasn't gone anywhere. I think he will run in 2020 too. emulatorloo Jul 2017 #89

I was a Bernie supporter. Here it is, 7-17. I do not understand lovemydogs Jul 2017 #102

"Billionaire megadonor gets it" Progressive dog Jul 2017 #103

+1. I guess some "billionaires" are more equal than others. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2017 #106

No. We do not. hunter Jul 2017 #108