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lapucelle

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84. The media narratives may have hurt her.

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 10:39 PM

Jul 2017

Hillary was a "flawed* candidate"! Unlike anyone else who has ever run for president (including her recent opponent), Hillary is deeply and troubling flawed*!

Hillary is the only losing presidential candidate in Gallup's history who did not receive a polling bump in approval ratings after the election, yet, for the twentieth time, poll respondents named Mrs. Clinton the world's Most Admired Woman. (She's held the "most admired" title more times than anyone, man or woman.) It's difficult to reconcile those two data sets without wondering about the underlying factors, whatever they may be.

Could it be that "flawed"* is code for female?

The New Yorker carried a scathing humor piece that was linked to early today concerning advice for Hillary.

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Katy Tur just said that Hillary is currently polling LESS favorably than 45 according to Bloomberg. [View all] BigmanPigman Jul 2017 OP

We have all fell through the looking glass. Shell_Seas Jul 2017 #1

Hillary is not defending herself because politically she's not relevant to the party geek tragedy Jul 2017 #2

Why the fuck are they polling on Hillary Clinton? milestogo Jul 2017 #3

It doesn't make sense CatMor Jul 2017 #11

So what is there to approve or disapprove of? milestogo Jul 2017 #69

The media narratives may have hurt her. lapucelle Jul 2017 #84

I had an hour long discussion with an old friend this weekend BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #85

THIS IS WHY MEN SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO HOLD PUBLIC OFFICE. milestogo Jul 2017 #87

Hillary received devastating press coverage after the election. It would have destroyed anyone. StevieM Jul 2017 #111

Because Trump is still "running" against her and TrishaJ Jul 2017 #105

whataboutitsm...Trump is unpopular but what about Hillary! Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #96

Kary tird is full of shit onecaliberal Jul 2017 #4

No, she is actually correct. Agschmid Jul 2017 #14

I've not seen any poll anywhere. She just furthers the Reich wing meme onecaliberal Jul 2017 #29

Agreed. It is WAY beyond past time to stop picking on her. calimary Jul 2017 #55

Sure, but there is a poll... and those were the results. Agschmid Jul 2017 #56

True, but the premise behind the poll is as ludicrous as the "popularity" poll we've seen... George II Jul 2017 #76

Why Tur chose to hit this point is also obvious. Hortensis Jul 2017 #102

Actually she doesn't. Agschmid Jul 2017 #106

Hillary "matters" a great deal, to both the left and right. Hortensis Jul 2017 #109

no, it's being discussed quite a bit outside of DU. it's a story. nt m-lekktor Jul 2017 #22

I read several sites and have not seen that anywhere onecaliberal Jul 2017 #36

No. She is one of the best reporters on her network. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #35

Yup. Agschmid Jul 2017 #58

And especially if we can do it making fun of her name mythology Jul 2017 #86

You're wrong about that. She's gutsy as hell, went all thru the campaign on the Trump story... Hekate Jul 2017 #59

Katy Tur, who took untold Trumpabuse during the campaign, is NOT your enemy. Stinky The Clown Jul 2017 #63

Hillary had low favorability ratings long before Trump. Drunken Irishman Jul 2017 #5

She had very high approval numbers as Sec. of State. The email scandal and the campaign killed her. LBM20 Jul 2017 #23

Exactly!!!! n/t jrthin Jul 2017 #50

I pointed that out. They were not sustainable. Drunken Irishman Jul 2017 #66

She also had high approval ratings as senator from NY.... bettyellen Jul 2017 #33

It's all true BeyondGeography Jul 2017 #6

Trump and the MSM mention her name alongside scandals that have nothing to do with her ecstatic Jul 2017 #7

Hilary Swank? WTF is this all about? madinmaryland Jul 2017 #8

Proof that the so called alt left message to destroy the D party is working Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #9

Nailed it! nikibatts Jul 2017 #82

I posted this and my thread got locked Blue_Warrior Jul 2017 #10

The right wing echo chamber is nearly impregnable. TheBlackAdder Jul 2017 #12

Did they ask the same group their opinions on Obama? Freethinker65 Jul 2017 #13

Yes BeyondGeography Jul 2017 #17

Thanks for the link Freethinker65 Jul 2017 #40

Trump is still going after her BeyondGeography Jul 2017 #42

While it may hurt her poll numbers in relation to his, it is not increasing his overall polling Freethinker65 Jul 2017 #48

I agree...He's blowing it by going after her BeyondGeography Jul 2017 #49

Yep Freethinker65 Jul 2017 #52

Her numbers are also down because she lost karynnj Jul 2017 #73

She's a woman and she lost Awsi Dooger Jul 2017 #90

Yes. Poll results can be found at the link. Nt NCTraveler Jul 2017 #20

Clinton Derangement Syndrome. NCTraveler Jul 2017 #15

She's not out there showing off and looking for attention. Most people aren't thinking about her, pnwmom Jul 2017 #16

And leftbro Twitter has been jizzing all over themselves all day Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #18

Yup. Noticed that ismnotwasm Jul 2017 #19

Oh yeah, they're upset people aren't sorry they voted for HRC. They want to see us suffer as bettyellen Jul 2017 #65

Lives... Don't matter. That is what is repulsive. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #91

+1 Starry Messenger Jul 2017 #88

If you dislike Clinton and like Obama dsc Jul 2017 #21

Not on Syria. David__77 Jul 2017 #25

I remember him asking the Congress to let him bomb dsc Jul 2017 #27

And, ultimately, there was no vote. David__77 Jul 2017 #30

He didn't make a decision he was told no dsc Jul 2017 #31

Congress didn't vote. David__77 Jul 2017 #32

no he merely wanted to bomb them and kill people dsc Jul 2017 #37

I would not characterize it as such. David__77 Jul 2017 #38

Post removed Post removed Jul 2017 #45

That's incorrect BeyondGeography Jul 2017 #39

Left to his own devices he would have bombed Syria dsc Jul 2017 #47

He was a year behind HRC and State in terms of aggressiveness BeyondGeography Jul 2017 #51

I am not saying that all the people who voted for him in 2008 over her were sexist dsc Jul 2017 #53

The media and Republicans Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2017 #97

+1 lunamagica Jul 2017 #46

Amazing to me that anyone is arguing with you on this stevenleser Jul 2017 #100

THIS obamanut2012 Jul 2017 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author lunamagica Jul 2017 #24

I had to double check the date, to make sure this isn't 2016. Move on, Hillary has. OnDoutside Jul 2017 #26

Hillary has moved on. She didn't ask to have her name in the poll, did she? Hekate Jul 2017 #60

Absolutely, and she made reference to not going again. OnDoutside Jul 2017 #92

I'm sure Dolt 45's constant harping and snarking about her since the election The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #28

Here's why HRC has bad numbers sharedvalues Jul 2017 #34

Would love to know how much the GOP has spent slurring the Clintons BannonsLiver Jul 2017 #54

Judicial Watch, etc. Total $1B attacking Clintons. sharedvalues Jul 2017 #72

People hate Hillary. Still In Wisconsin Jul 2017 #41

So? MuseRider Jul 2017 #43

Not a fan. DURHAM D Jul 2017 #44

I continue to see... Mike Nelson Jul 2017 #57

Even if you click your red shoes together, you'll discover the good witch democratisphere Jul 2017 #61

Most successful smear campaign ever. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2017 #62

Public Policy Polling says otherwise.. and I don't even know why she is being polled: JHan Jul 2017 #64

Thank you. This deserves its own thread lunamagica Jul 2017 #110

Who cares? It is not about her any more. Drahthaardogs Jul 2017 #67

Who cares? She's not the president. Atman Jul 2017 #68

Why is her popularity polled anyway? She's not in office. Catherine Vincent Jul 2017 #70

And yet the voters of the country preferred her over all the other presidential candidates. Deuce Jul 2017 #71

This poll is irrelevant, no reason for them to have even conducted that poll. All it does... George II Jul 2017 #74

Clinton isn't in the oval or any other office. Solly Mack Jul 2017 #75

For those who want to analyse the poll, here is a link to the questions csziggy Jul 2017 #77

I don't believe this for one second. AgadorSparticus Jul 2017 #78

That's why I posted it. I only heard her say it and said, "What the fuck?!" BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #83

BULLSHIT!! I do NOT believe that AT ALL!! The_REAL_Ecumenist Jul 2017 #79

Guess what, Katy Turd? roamer65 Jul 2017 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Jul 2017 #81

The relevance would be...? WinkyDink Jul 2017 #89

Katy Tur under the bus because she reported inconvenient facts LittleBlue Jul 2017 #93

Actually, she reported on a poll so what. However, that aside, I don't care for her or her show. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #95

Less inconvenient facts, but rather simple irrelevancy. LanternWaste Jul 2017 #103

She reported on a poll. Nothing more nothing less. Next week there will be another opinion poll emulatorloo Jul 2017 #104

What's the message? An insignificant poll about mythical matchups. What's the point? George II Jul 2017 #108

Why is a private citizen being polled? Vinca Jul 2017 #94

Good question Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2017 #99

Why are they polling her? She is not the president mfcorey1 Jul 2017 #98

A meaningless distraction. MrsCoffee Jul 2017 #107