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In reply to the discussion: Restore Glass-Steagall [View all]

Selatius

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57. Easy, require it be a joint-venture or a partnership between said entity and the parent company.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 03:46 AM
Jul 2012

In this manner, you're not going for the hardline stance under Glass-Steagall and requiring that the bank truly spin-off its banking activities from its investment activities, but at the same time, you're still establishing a firewall between the two in order to avoid conflicts of interest. Even if the parent or partner company made risky speculative bets and lost big in its investment wing, the banking wing would have leverage in as much as it can easily claim under joint-venture or partnership regulations that it isn't responsible for any liabilities arising from its partner company's failures or willful incompetence.

For example, if I wanted to build cars in China, I would likely form a joint-venture with a Chinese firm and split the profits in such a firm. There would be the partner firm, my firm, and the firm that is the joint-venture between the two of us. If the partner firm takes on large liabilities, such as massive investments in new infrastructure or research and development, the joint-venture itself wouldn't be on the hook if the partner firm has trouble making its bills. The only thing that would become a problem is if the partner firm goes into bankruptcy or out of business entirely, in which case the joint-venture would have to be dissolved seeing as the other half of the venture no longer exists. Of course, that's a worst case scenario, but this isn't 2008/2009 anymore.

Ideally, I'm on your page. Just put back Glass-Steagall; I have no problem with this route; it's the simplest one, but given the level of corporate money influencing the Senate agenda and elections in general, I think it would be a very difficult long-shot at best to get it reinstated in full, hence the compromise solution. The hurdles in the Senate are also why I favored the Public Option with respect to health care reform, as opposed to a far simpler and more cost-effective Medicare For All bill. There's too much money in opposition to the common sense, easier solution. So, we have to do things in a roundabout way. Such is the nature of a corporatized government.

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Restore Glass-Steagall [View all] UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 OP
Yep!... Simple and elegant. THAT is why they thrash so furiously annabanana Jul 2012 #1
Absolutely elleng Jul 2012 #2
Banks absolutely may gamble and play with our money Recursion Jul 2012 #4
It wasn't those banks that broke things Recursion Jul 2012 #3
I would say banks can do whatever they want 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #5
Makes perfect sense to me! ohgeewhiz Jul 2012 #8
I dont understand why it seems that the Ron Paul crowd is against this one Wondering Soul Jul 2012 #6
You just pointed out one more reason Ron Paul ohgeewhiz Jul 2012 #9
lol Wondering Soul Jul 2012 #11
The Ron Paul crowd are fascists Scootaloo Jul 2012 #40
Zero evidence lately that corporate Democrats are interested in doing this. woo me with science Jul 2012 #7
Makes you sick, UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #13
Indeed. n/t Canuckistanian Jul 2012 #30
The Dems say 'no way'! Corporate stooges for self enrichment they all are-eom Huey P. Long Jul 2012 #10
Are you kidding? It took them almost a century to get us back here. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #12
...and transfer all your money to a credit union. L0oniX Jul 2012 #14
never will be Remember Jul 2012 #15
Only when a number the super-rich see that this is in their best interest, it is not going to happen AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #16
That's a keeper. nt.. boston bean Jul 2012 #17
REC. Rain Mcloud Jul 2012 #18
No - DON'T "restore Glass-Steagall"... brooklynite Jul 2012 #19
That's a very good point... UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #21
Glass-Steagall is actually widely known dreamnightwind Jul 2012 #37
I agree that it should be restored davidpdx Jul 2012 #42
The formal name for it is the Banking Act of 1933 Scootaloo Jul 2012 #41
Call it "Making Banks Safe Again Act" or similar? MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #43
Call it... bvar22 Jul 2012 #51
Call it the support babbies, apple pie and grandma act. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #52
Yeah, I guess this stuff has gotten out of hand MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #56
Banking Reform Act, or BRA: Supporting our needs! chknltl Jul 2012 #55
Regulate investment banks, regulate derivatives, tax short duration financial transactions Fresh_Start Jul 2012 #20
K&R Mnemosyne Jul 2012 #22
I'll line up here, bvar22 Jul 2012 #23
Would that everything that should be done UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #24
Not even a serious topic. They would have put it in Dodd-Frank banned from Kos Jul 2012 #25
Volcker Rule is stronger as far as legal definitions go, but it's weaker compared to ... Selatius Jul 2012 #38
How is that possible? thesquanderer Jul 2012 #45
Easy, require it be a joint-venture or a partnership between said entity and the parent company. Selatius Jul 2012 #57
Banks made investments and hedged before 1999 banned from Kos Jul 2012 #47
It's not satisfactory, in my opinion, because of that douche Scott Brown of Massachusetts. Selatius Jul 2012 #58
Oldie but goodie! FailureToCommunicate Jul 2012 #26
duh! nt tomp Jul 2012 #27
Feingold voted against Dodd-Frank because it did not go far enough. n/t slipslidingaway Jul 2012 #28
Great post! DrewFlorida Jul 2012 #29
I wish they would. ornotna Jul 2012 #31
Yes! DianaForRussFeingold Jul 2012 #32
I wept and howled when the idiots dumped it. So yes. aquart Jul 2012 #33
We will have momentum on our side as this scandal grows! Dustlawyer Jul 2012 #34
K&R suffragette Jul 2012 #35
Yes, we should but this is a fantasy with corporate Democrats and Republicans in charge. limpyhobbler Jul 2012 #36
All that's happened since sulphurdunn Jul 2012 #39
That's sadly probably true. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #44
I'll be surprised agent46 Jul 2012 #48
O ye of little faith UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #50
Oh Me of Little Faith. bvar22 Jul 2012 #54
Repeal Graham-Bliley-Leach = Restored Glass-Steagall. n/t BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #46
Restore the guillotine nichomachus Jul 2012 #49
+1000 HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #53
Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #59
nice catch and welcome to DU Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #60
Ya like that, do ya, Tuesday UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #62
Did the LaRouche nuts create that poster UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #61
wow. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #63
Wow what? UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #64
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