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78. It's not money laundering

Wed Jul 19, 2017, 12:36 PM

Jul 2017

Different governments define money laundering differently. Most require that the funds derive from criminal activity which is then disguised as from a legal source. Hence Walter White bought a car wash.

It is not clear that all or even most of disguised Russian money starts out from crime. Many Russians want their money out but don't want Putin to know they are bailing out on Russia. Or they don't want people to know they are so rich in case they face extortion. Or they don't want creditors to find their assets. Etc.

So we can't just lock such people up absent proof their money is dirty.

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Kick. dalton99a Jul 2017 #1

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It will be an "I am not a crook" tweet! Initech Jul 2017 #46

Or some shyster lawyer PatSeg Jul 2017 #59

He violated his oath. Any "country lawyer" knows that. mobeau69 Jul 2017 #63

Well, I think some of Trump's lawyers PatSeg Jul 2017 #67

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K&R. n/t rzemanfl Jul 2017 #5

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As much as we would like GallopingGhost Jul 2017 #7

It should encourage us all that Mueller's office called to get the name. kentuck Jul 2017 #9

I pray they are GallopingGhost Jul 2017 #42

Kick kentuck Jul 2017 #8

Looking forward to revelations! get the red out Jul 2017 #10

So does the Magnitsky Act mess this up? mitch96 Jul 2017 #11

He has tried everything. kentuck Jul 2017 #13

So this is the real reason that the media isn't talking about? Ilsa Jul 2017 #60

I recommend looking at the various rich kids of Instagram accounts Not Ruth Jul 2017 #12

For instance Not Ruth Jul 2017 #15

That's just gross. byronius Jul 2017 #23

First ones with their backs against the wall... KatyMan Jul 2017 #25

Don had a previous warning about violating money laundering regulations when he owned the N.J. Vinca Jul 2017 #14

There's a reason there are so many secret meetings with Russians. kentuck Jul 2017 #16

If this is what we know, Shell_Seas Jul 2017 #17

They have known this for a long time. kentuck Jul 2017 #19

Because they have to make a water-tight case first, right? Shell_Seas Jul 2017 #20

They still have to fight the lawyers... kentuck Jul 2017 #22

Why not prosecute each and every one of the people involved? Shell_Seas Jul 2017 #24

They are scattered around the world. kentuck Jul 2017 #27

Trump and his direct associates? Shell_Seas Jul 2017 #29

Much more. kentuck Jul 2017 #33

I wish this was nearing the end... Shell_Seas Jul 2017 #35

It's only just begun. kentuck Jul 2017 #39

Me too. Shell_Seas Jul 2017 #40

Prosecute them for what? Cicada Jul 2017 #76

Money laundering is against the law Shell_Seas Jul 2017 #77

It's not money laundering Cicada Jul 2017 #78

I would imagine the team of investigator will find proof. Shell_Seas Jul 2017 #79

Mueller can't enforce subpoenas in Russia Cicada Jul 2017 #80

I see your point. Shell_Seas Jul 2017 #81

As always, follow the money... Wounded Bear Jul 2017 #18

So, he was there because he had close ties to the Trumps. A known friend, to put them at ease. byronius Jul 2017 #21

Why didn't Don Jr, Jared, or Manafort report him being at the meeting???? kentuck Jul 2017 #28

I'm reading that he was investigated by congress in 2000 for Shell_Seas Jul 2017 #32

I Believe That Question Me. Jul 2017 #55

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there is, apparently, no bottom to this cesspool. niyad Jul 2017 #30

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Thanks Shell_Seas Jul 2017 #34

+100 kentuck Jul 2017 #37

So why did the US Intelligence groups never act on this scam before? BSdetect Jul 2017 #36

It was bigger than the FBI alone... kentuck Jul 2017 #38

The "scam" (treason; money-laundering; felonious omissions on security papers; election WinkyDink Jul 2017 #70

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republican Comrade Casino's* criminal operation Achilleaze Jul 2017 #43

Unfortunately... kentuck Jul 2017 #44

K&R! gademocrat7 Jul 2017 #45

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k and r Stuart G Jul 2017 #48

Trump is finally going to solve the deficit. Asset seizures in the billions ..... L. Coyote Jul 2017 #49

Assets enid602 Jul 2017 #57

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I don't see a primary source of information. Who is reporting this? The NYT report is from 17 years Eyeball_Kid Jul 2017 #51

Which "holes"...? kentuck Jul 2017 #52

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In the end, it won't matter how much they love him. kentuck Jul 2017 #54

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No big deal, Citibank is "too big to jail". n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2017 #58

Until they "reform" the banking/finance laws IronLionZion Jul 2017 #61

So the money laundering guy wanted to adopt? sellitman Jul 2017 #62

He wanted to adopt Trump. kentuck Jul 2017 #64

I MUST, MUST, MUST see his tax returns (all of them). BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #65

I hope we'll hear Maddow on this tonight flamingdem Jul 2017 #66

Whoa! babylonsister Jul 2017 #68

Interesting!!!! burrowowl Jul 2017 #69

What is Kaveladze's interest in adoption programs?? Beartracks Jul 2017 #71

Incredible. ElementaryPenguin Jul 2017 #72

K&R... spanone Jul 2017 #73

Malcom nance is discussing this with steph miller Gabi Hayes Jul 2017 #75

KKK Gabi Hayes Jul 2017 #82

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Just connect the dots. triron Jul 2017 #84

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