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Showing Original Post only (View all)We Sanders supporters need to recognize that his brand is damaged now [View all]
One thing I hear a lot about Clinton is "her brand is damaged. She may be a great person, she might make a great president, but her brand is damaged and we need to move on."
Well, the same is now true about Sanders. Frankly, it was true a year ago even if we didn't want to admit it.
Sanders stumbled badly when it came to race issues. The Root ran an article today detailing it very well - https://www.theroot.com/bernie-sanders-black-women-problem-1796995081 .
Here are a couple of quotes from that article;
For all of Sanders talk of a political revolution and economic inequality, the candidate never seemed to understand that its all but impossible to make it out of the Democratic primary without winning over black womenespecially those over 35 years old.
But, for some reason, the Democratic Party, Sanders and his supporters seem more interested in converting racist Donald Trump supporters while dismissing the electoral power of black female voters whove never wavered in their support of a party that consistently treats them like side pieces.
If you are still reading, recognize that second paragraph. Substitute "black female" for "left/progressive" and it is EXACTLY THE SAME ARGUMENT that the progressive left has been making about the DNC for YEARS.
We need someone who will bring us together, not drive us apart. Sanders can't do that anymore. He's done.
Sanders is a great guy. He may make a great president. But his brand is damaged and we need to move on.
Several years ago I sat on the national board of a very old, very respected far-left organization. For several years we had been struggling with our own internal progress. We had been investing (and I think, making progress) with anti-racism/anti-oppression education and training. Over the years, the Board DID transform. It became more diverse and more open. I had been there long enough at that point that I had become one of the "old white guys."
Then, in my last year on the board I watched two other old, white guys come along and do EXACTLY what Bernie was doing. They were dismissing the importance of combatting racism, sexism and other isms in an effort to go straight to the class/economic struggle. They made complete asses of themselves.
So, when I watched Bernie do the same thing, I knew it was over. I hoped not but, really, I already knew.
In 2020 we need to find someone new. Someone who will heal the divide. At this moment, Bernie is not it.
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TXCritter
Jul 2017
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at least he is out there fighting the repubs in public appearances. good on him for that. dems? nt
msongs
Jul 2017
#1
It says something that you only see and hear Sanders while the Democratic Party does the work.
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#8
Uh...just so you know, the poster you are responding to there was an implacably anti-Sanders in '16.
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#67
mostly what I see in media here is sanders. oh and Schumer statement. may well be more
msongs
Jul 2017
#33
We heard the same garbage about Democrats silent on Trump Jr email, so poster started a thread.
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#36
It is so easy not to pay attention then accuse Democrats do nothing. Priceless. Eom
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#38
Indeed. He has a major role to play in keeping the economic justice movement together
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#55
Wish more people around here realized that, instead of jettisoning a core constituancy.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jul 2017
#86
Dems are out there everyday fighting too...so you can stop with the innuendo.
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#80
An excellent post. We need to hear this from people that support Sanders,
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#7
Sanders "value" is our value. If you look at what Sanders wants as far as
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#71
I find very little to agree with Sanders supporters about these days, but this assessment is spot on
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2017
#13
He was, though, repeatedly(and unjustly)accused of not caring about the need to fight it
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#142
You're right. The "Sanders brand" didn't make it out of the primaries for the reasons stated in...
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2017
#28
And now we know it wasn't the HRC brand either if you have been paying attention.
nikibatts
Jul 2017
#30
cops can now steal everything you own. that should be an issue for bernie/HRC/some trump voters nt
msongs
Jul 2017
#34
Not wanting to wade in but really Bernie was never going to win that demographic
flamingdem
Jul 2017
#43
You are right. She did build those relationships over many years. She earned them
Tom Rinaldo
Jul 2017
#96
He literally, told women to sit down, that he had this as the greatest feminist, evah.
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#107
To answer this question would be a violation of the TOS here- and alerts fly fast so....
bettyellen
Jul 2017
#119
Not only feel the bern for a year and half, but using up all the ointment for all the berns. Eom
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#54
It is simply amazing the number of hit pieces which are emerging on Sanders at the same time
Samantha
Jul 2017
#70
He won't make it out of the primary...he can spoil a general election but not
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#94
I've tried pointing that out to no avail... the trash Bernie movement continues unabated.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jul 2017
#87
I support Senator Sanders 100%. He is IN the fight VS Republicans FOR US. Here is 7/18 interview!!
Sunlei
Jul 2017
#92
Right. The most popular and hard working Senator's 'brand' is damaged....
Trial_By_Fire
Jul 2017
#101
I think the poster means as a potential presidential candidate...and I agree. Bernie
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#102
The most popular senator IN VT. Tiny, homogeneous state. That doesn't work on a national level
lunamagica
Jul 2017
#121
lol, of course they do. But you keep repeating the "he is the most popular senator" as if
lunamagica
Jul 2017
#126
Losing in the GE is the kiss of death. Losing in a primary isn't. Trump has run before. Clinton ran
JCanete
Jul 2017
#137
There's no logical reason to run after having lost in a competetive primary
loyalsister
Jul 2017
#138
well the logical reason is that you think you can win. Clinton was in a competitive primary. She
JCanete
Jul 2017
#139
Can we give decent burial to the meme that Bernie Sanders didn't appeal to black voters.
LongTomH
Jul 2017
#112
Whaa? Has Bernie started making millions giving speeches to Wall Street banks?
jalan48
Jul 2017
#124
We've been hearing that message from the day Bernie announced his candidacy in April 2015.
aikoaiko
Jul 2017
#130