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Danmel

(5,672 posts) Thu Jul 20, 2017, 06:58 AM Jul 2017

On cancer and "toughness" [View all]

I wish John McCain well, as I would for any person facing a diagnosis as dire as glioblastoma multiform, a particularly lethal and aggressive cancer.
I have two things I want to say:
One of the things that drives me craziest is the whole "he/she is so tough, cancer doesn't know who it's up against."
Cancer is an insidious disease. It doesn't matter how tough you are. I hate the idea that if you are tough enough, you'll survive. I know people don't know what to say but I find this one particularly offensive.
As to McCain, I will never forgive him for Sarah Palin, without whom I firmly believe, there is no Donald Trump.
I'll never forget his referring to President Obama as "that one."
I'll never forget his use of air quotes with talking about women's health and abortion.
I do believe that people can change, and I hope that he sees the light. I don't wish him dead but I hope they freed from selling his soul to keep his Senate seat, he comes to the true meaning of service and maybe persuades some of his caucus colleagues to understand how critical access to health care is.

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On cancer and "toughness" [View all] Danmel Jul 2017 OP

Being less vile than many in the gop is indeed a low bar dembotoz Jul 2017 #1

hmmmm well rtracey Jul 2017 #19

Exactly. The hell and sufferring this man has pangaia Jul 2017 #22

This disease will kill him. It kills everyone. sharedvalues Jul 2017 #2

NO, it doesn't. MORE & MORE patients ARE recovering The_REAL_Ecumenist Jul 2017 #6

You don't know what you're talking about with respect to this cancer. n/t Raven Jul 2017 #11

Recommended tallahasseedem Jul 2017 #40

I AM an American woman who was diagnosed with STAGE 4B metastatic The_REAL_Ecumenist Jul 2017 #45

I'm sure you know what works for you, and your struggle with Cervical Cancer maxsolomon Jul 2017 #47

I'm so sorry for your loss... tallahasseedem Jul 2017 #49

First all, I've been a member of Du since 2004 but lost my password to my original screenname.. The_REAL_Ecumenist Jul 2017 #50

You could have acquired a new password any time you wanted. maxsolomon Jul 2017 #73

NOT that it's any of your business BUT the reason I couldn't get a new password The_REAL_Ecumenist Jul 2017 #74

Different cancer. Different area affected. I do not, however, doubt your experience at all. WinkyDink Jul 2017 #64

Yes, WinkyDink BUT as I just posted to another DU'er, I treated @ a FAMOUS The_REAL_Ecumenist Jul 2017 #67

CTCA is for-profit. sharedvalues Jul 2017 #72

Yeah, NO KIDDING! At the time I went, they weren't as grubby & sleazy The_REAL_Ecumenist Jul 2017 #76

WTF? i WAS DIAGNOSED WITH STAGE 4B SQUAMOUS CELL CARCINOMA, IDIOT! The_REAL_Ecumenist Jul 2017 #44

Please don't spam posts with videos. tallahasseedem Jul 2017 #51

It isn't spam, Tallahassee but proof of what I was saying as I was The_REAL_Ecumenist Jul 2017 #52

Thank you for all of these... CanSocDem Jul 2017 #60

Yes, I know that it's brainwashing that people accept without question... The_REAL_Ecumenist Jul 2017 #62

It depends on the patient! atreides1 Jul 2017 #28

Atreides, Please allow me to respectfully disagree as I have seen with MY OWN The_REAL_Ecumenist Jul 2017 #65

Let me be brief. janx Jul 2017 #59

Thank you, Janx. However, I was only making an observation that Sen. McCain The_REAL_Ecumenist Jul 2017 #61

I agree. DanTex Jul 2017 #3

Thank you. My cancer has come back 3 times over 5 years. ReformedGOPer Jul 2017 #26

I'm Going To Agree RobinA Jul 2017 #4

I never "battled" cancer, and I hate that term. Tracer Jul 2017 #18

I would argue that is fighting it mythology Jul 2017 #31

I hate that so much! And it is everywhere. Chemisse Jul 2017 #53

My concern for McCain as a fellow child of God overrides at the moment my contempt for his positions DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2017 #5

God bless you, DemocratSinceBirth...That's they way we're The_REAL_Ecumenist Jul 2017 #8

There's a time for everything and now is not the time to lambaste McCain. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2017 #10

My thoughts exactly! Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #12

I agree. When we forget that is when we actually become "them". hamsterjill Jul 2017 #33

I just posted this. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2017 #34

+1 Great post, DSB lunamagica Jul 2017 #56

Cancer is a cell mutation. Mutations don't care how "tough" somebody is. MoonRiver Jul 2017 #7

Plus blaming the patient for lifestyle 'choices' that led to their cancers lilymidnite Jul 2017 #35

... Phentex Jul 2017 #42

I don't like it either. Cancer patients and their families have enough grief to deal with. They smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #63

I posted before that my oldest friend has this Raven Jul 2017 #9

Praying your friend has a peaceful journey... MoonRiver Jul 2017 #14

Exactly .. The sentiment expressed by obama doesnt mean that cancer Le Gaucher Jul 2017 #15

Yeah rock Jul 2017 #13

Thank you. mindfulNJ Jul 2017 #16

I hate it SHRED Jul 2017 #17

Thank you.. very well said! mountain grammy Jul 2017 #20

As an 8+ year survivor of Stage IV cancer, I disagree. I truly believe sinkingfeeling Jul 2017 #21

Congratulations! nolabear Jul 2017 #25

Thanks for posting, your opinion is the most relevant here BannonsLiver Jul 2017 #29

Thank you! GallopingGhost Jul 2017 #41

congratulations, SinkingFeeling, I am a 6 year survivor of Stage 4B cancer ... The_REAL_Ecumenist Jul 2017 #46

Was your cancer glioblastoma? TexasBushwhacker Jul 2017 #58

Interesting - I don't call it toughness, Ms. Toad Jul 2017 #69

Thank you for this PatSeg Jul 2017 #23

Agreed! Staph Jul 2017 #24

I am under treatment for cancer at this time. Chemisse Jul 2017 #57

Watching my mother fighting right now lindysalsagal Jul 2017 #27

Thought for you mother MiniMe Jul 2017 #38

Exactly. THAT's what takes guts and toughness: Refusing care. Good for her. lindysalsagal Jul 2017 #43

I wish my mother had not chosen chemo. cwydro Jul 2017 #48

Chemo cause C Iwasthere Jul 2017 #71

I think it's okay Obama said this flamingdem Jul 2017 #30

Not all cancers created equal mchill Jul 2017 #32

Sometimes the most courageous thing to do B2G Jul 2017 #36

OK, breast cancer survivor here. TNNurse Jul 2017 #37

As someone who works with cancer patients everyday... tallahasseedem Jul 2017 #39

I am an ovarian cancer survivor and I like to think that I am a bad ass mother fucker. Glimmer of Hope Jul 2017 #54

I hate the whole war vocabulary used on that disease Warpy Jul 2017 #55

Those are things people say to make themselves feel better RhodeIslandOne Jul 2017 #66

There are many ways to be "tough." VOX Jul 2017 #68

While we're on the subject of language, Ms. Toad Jul 2017 #70

This is exactly how I feel. I never tell people I'm cured. Instead, I say "I'm clear for now" I've ReformedGOPer Jul 2017 #75

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