Can we give decent burial to the meme that Bernie Sanders didn't appeal to black voters.

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62. How about quit insulting people?

Not calling them establishment because thry disagreed with you in a now ancient primary? It is interesting how you all have manged to caegorize the poor and marginalized as "establishment," while the white and affluent supposedly aren't.

The issue with single payer has always been getting it through the congress, which is why Sanders declared it a non-starter in 2009. John Conyers has introduced a Medicare for all bill every year for a very long time. Yet we hear not a word of support for it from self-described progressives.

Now I understand focusing on what becomes law is " establishment" compared to the all important matter of what is said on TV. But if " progressives" ever decided they want to pass Medicare for all, they could start building coalitions in congress rather than spending their time insulting Democrats for not doing the work they can't be bothered to. What exactly is stopping you from doing that? What do you sit back and wait for people you clearly see as inferior to yourself to do the work for you? Why aren't Bernie and Tusli meeting with the GOP leadership to try to get a bill up for a vote? Saying one supports single payer is easy, as easy as liking strawberry ice cream. Making it law is the hard part. So how about progressives start working on that?

I'm all on board for anti-interventionism, and that means reducing defense spending. Are you going to tell Bernie his continued support for the f35 is unacceptable? Are you gong to tell him you oppose hs many, many votes for increased defense spending?

And the war at home, that kills more than 30,000 a year through gun violence? When are progressives going to stand up against that, including demanding waiting periods for gun sales and ending civil immunity for the corporate merchants of death?