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Turbineguy

(37,208 posts)
57. These are the sorts of questions you don't ask.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 10:57 PM
Jul 2017

If you have any curiosity, you quietly research the subject and let nobody know....

The question in this case is more revealing than the answer. It betrays total guilt as well as profound ignorance.

This post courtesy of the Turbineguy Course on "How to be President, a Guide for the Compleat Idiot".

Maddow reporting Trumps lawyers looking into what Trumps authority would be to parden riversedge Jul 2017 #1
He cannot pardon State crimes in State courts like NY, NJ, etc... Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #175
He knows Don Jr. is going to crack under pressure Thrill Jul 2017 #2
I think he gave Junior up gldstwmn Jul 2017 #71
Being anything but an expert in these matters, BobTheSubgenius Jul 2017 #91
New York Times is reporting too leftinalabama Jul 2017 #3
He's done. But if he leaves, we get Pence. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2017 #12
Dems need to make sure Pence, Ryan, and the rest of the Republican party klook Jul 2017 #39
They're not going to pay any price whatsoever, or even get charged for the bill, Volaris Jul 2017 #67
Pence is most probably compromisd as well Perseus Jul 2017 #43
If Trump was elected by fraud, then so was Pence. keithbvadu2 Jul 2017 #61
True.... unfortunately there's no way to undo an election groundloop Jul 2017 #66
As far as I know... IthinkThereforeIAM Jul 2017 #94
There is no mechanism to undo an election. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #115
I wasn't implying that the election was ... IthinkThereforeIAM Jul 2017 #127
We will get Ryan then. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #135
More likely Orrin Hatch... IthinkThereforeIAM Jul 2017 #144
e will get President Hatch, and hopefully a Dem in 2010 obamanut2012 Jul 2017 #146
More like Superintendsent Hatch jmowreader Jul 2017 #147
Yep...a Dem needs to win in 20, I hope we get the Senate in 18 and shut down Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #151
Why would you think that? regnaD kciN Jul 2017 #101
Couple scenarios are likely here. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2017 #129
Senate Intel committee will most likely hire Mueller if agent Orange fires him onetexan Jul 2017 #145
Schumer said something to that affect, in a stern tone. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2017 #152
trump cant say no to the senate onetexan Jul 2017 #155
I hope to God he can't walk away from this...truly a constitutional crisis. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #114
Mueller's hound dogs are getting too close to the crime family's financial statements dalton99a Jul 2017 #4
I think you are right harun Jul 2017 #120
Every one of herr drumpf's actions screams of guilt. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2017 #5
Sure do. Blue_true Jul 2017 #10
Can he pardon himself before charges are Tiggeroshii Jul 2017 #6
How about others ? DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2017 #11
Ford pardoned Nixon prospectively marylandblue Jul 2017 #15
Yes but there's a catch! Worktodo Jul 2017 #21
Actually, there was a case like that in1915 marylandblue Jul 2017 #50
They will testify Cosmocat Jul 2017 #60
Sitting in a cell orangecrush Jul 2017 #78
How so? Cosmocat Jul 2017 #118
Didn't elderBush pardon Casper Weinberger even though not convicted? keithbvadu2 Jul 2017 #63
Weinberger was indicted DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2017 #117
Good question FarPoint Jul 2017 #59
Nixon has better moral fiber-refuse to pardon before resigning Catmusicfan Jul 2017 #7
Hey, GOP, you still okay with this? Barack_America Jul 2017 #8
If it keeps them in power? Bettie Jul 2017 #64
My guess......... SergeStorms Jul 2017 #65
"Don't mess with our rubber stamp!!" Beartracks Jul 2017 #158
Time for us to fasten our seatbelts, gang nt eleny Jul 2017 #9
Disgusting if everyone in this admin gets away with it due to pardon power OliverQ Jul 2017 #13
Trump's power to pardon dgibby Jul 2017 #44
Ahhhh sweet... FarPoint Jul 2017 #62
No, but Schneiderman can. smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #72
Can NY use the investigation data from Mueller? FarPoint Jul 2017 #81
I'm not sure. That's a good point. I am sure that Schneiderman smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #97
It should be able to as long as the collection didn't violate the constitution of NY dsc Jul 2017 #100
Wouldn't it be rich if any of those NY investigations resulted in asset R B Garr Jul 2017 #106
But if Drumpf implodes and takes himself off the board central scrutinizer Jul 2017 #14
If trump tried to pardon himself, it would definitely be challenged in the courts. For one still_one Jul 2017 #16
Yes, and didn't some congressman from Texas Mr.Bill Jul 2017 #30
The "except in cases of impeachment" clause means that the President can't prevent anyone... PoliticAverse Jul 2017 #79
Then that would apply Mr.Bill Jul 2017 #128
I'm pretty sure that the Supreme Court would reject the idea of a President being able.... PoliticAverse Jul 2017 #130
I agree, Mr.Bill Jul 2017 #140
I think it would be 9-0 if the issue were raised now. I don't think any more... PoliticAverse Jul 2017 #142
Al Green, from Houston n/t TexasBushwhacker Jul 2017 #95
It's very unlikely the Supreme Court would find that the President could pardon himself. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2017 #76
I agree still_one Jul 2017 #93
So he pardons everybody, resigns and then pence pardons him elehhhhna Jul 2017 #136
That could indeed happen. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2017 #138
There's enough popcorn for everybody, pass around MiddleClass Jul 2017 #17
Thanks! montana_hazeleyes Jul 2017 #36
You're welcome, a pleasure MiddleClass Jul 2017 #149
Thanks! think4yourself Jul 2017 #58
You're welcome, again a pleasure MiddleClass Jul 2017 #150
Is it possible Corgigal Jul 2017 #18
So this is how it ends? Signs of it anyway. Looks like they all R B Garr Jul 2017 #19
If running from criminal charges and pardoning himself gets him out of power... NightWatcher Jul 2017 #22
I hear you! Looks like he has an eye on the exit. R B Garr Jul 2017 #26
Mueller should let him know that it's a safe out. NightWatcher Jul 2017 #28
I hope they're all hitting the Constitutional books tonight to find a way. R B Garr Jul 2017 #29
Apparently presidential pardons are good for federal crimes only. Enoki33 Jul 2017 #52
Correct dflprincess Jul 2017 #56
Looks like New York might be hostile territory for him, then. He's insulted so R B Garr Jul 2017 #105
From your lips to Gods ear. sheshe2 Jul 2017 #102
It's like the Hunt for Red October in reverse. R B Garr Jul 2017 #103
Yup. sheshe2 Jul 2017 #104
But will he just stay in office with a complicit Congress? Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #116
We are living in HISTORIC times. Mrs. Overall Jul 2017 #20
... Oneironaut Jul 2017 #23
lol, that's good. R B Garr Jul 2017 #27
I know most presidents/aides that are ALBliberal Jul 2017 #24
But they can't be pardoned from crimes not yet committed. Mr.Bill Jul 2017 #34
Good point ALBliberal Jul 2017 #41
In theory angrychair Jul 2017 #54
Can he give them repeated blanket pardons? Generic Brad Jul 2017 #55
The President can't pardon away future crimes. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2017 #80
But one adviser said the president has simply expressed a curiosity in understanding grantcart Jul 2017 #25
Apparently he's curious about Russian adoptions as well. flibbitygiblets Jul 2017 #47
We're really into brand new territory here NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #31
I don't think there are many knowledgeable people that think the courts would allow... PoliticAverse Jul 2017 #86
Y'know, Trump... Pardoning is only for guilty parties. No, really. n/t Beartracks Jul 2017 #32
+1 CentralMass Jul 2017 #113
Obviously, trump cannot pardon his family or himself because that Akamai Jul 2017 #33
Trump can certainly pardon family members, but most likely not himself. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2017 #83
Good distinction you make here, but if you think pardoning Akamai Jul 2017 #92
Trump is guilty of so much shit, let him pardon himself for something and then charge him with world wide wally Jul 2017 #35
The timing of this pardon talk appears as conspiracy to obstruct justice by 45 and his lawyers. ancianita Jul 2017 #37
If he's allowed to get away with this then our Constitution ecstatic Jul 2017 #38
That's an excellent point onetexan Jul 2017 #148
The wild card is charges at the NY state level. roamer65 Jul 2017 #40
More and more this state level prosecution ALBliberal Jul 2017 #46
Pardon us while we get sick. Marcuse Jul 2017 #42
I was waiting for this all along benld74 Jul 2017 #45
As Steve Schmidt said a few months ago Best_man23 Jul 2017 #48
So he admits he's guilty. BainsBane Jul 2017 #49
I smell blood. The big boom is coming!! And I hope it takes out the gop too AgadorSparticus Jul 2017 #51
To be pardonnrd you have to be guilty burrowowl Jul 2017 #53
Not necessarily, although it is somewhat an unsettled legal question. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2017 #82
As I read Burdick v. US, 236 U.S. 79 (1915) TomSlick Jul 2017 #159
Well the thing is you can be pardoned even if you haven't committed any crimes. PoliticAverse Jul 2017 #160
An interesting question but TomSlick Jul 2017 #161
Well that's the question. If you are offered a pardon until you invoke that pardon... PoliticAverse Jul 2017 #162
Part of the problem TomSlick Jul 2017 #163
These are the sorts of questions you don't ask. Turbineguy Jul 2017 #57
This just gets better and better... Luciferous Jul 2017 #68
If he tries this then gldstwmn Jul 2017 #69
I hope the entire cabal goes down. gademocrat7 Jul 2017 #70
Down, down, down, in a burnin' ring of fire... Hekate Jul 2017 #74
STAND BACK! orangecrush Jul 2017 #73
Scorched Earth Coming DallasNE Jul 2017 #75
Claude just posted that Mueller has Trump's tax returns, because Comey had them. OliverQ Jul 2017 #77
Pardons could lead to impeachment Shoonra Jul 2017 #84
It was the plan all along.... Pachamama Jul 2017 #85
Bloody hell, this is major history we are witnessing... Puzzler Jul 2017 #87
Over a "fake news nothingburger"? Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #88
I started a thread on this a while back Gothmog Jul 2017 #89
H Y P O C R I T E S ! ! ! ! Roland99 Jul 2017 #90
If a President could pardon himself why didn't Nixon? Lint Head Jul 2017 #96
Because Nixon had more class than 45. For everything bad about Nixon, you have to say... Midnight Writer Jul 2017 #98
Nixon had been an honorable WWII veteran. Trump has no patriotism. WinkyDink Jul 2017 #110
Well Nixon didn't even pardon the other people in his administration PoliticAverse Jul 2017 #99
I don't think Trump will. He wants to pardon himself. Lint Head Jul 2017 #107
Trump's admitting guilt for Hieronymus Jul 2017 #108
Can a President pardon himself? WinkyDink Jul 2017 #109
No Hieronymus Jul 2017 #112
Thank goodness for small favors! WinkyDink Jul 2017 #119
Trump's basically admitting that crimes octoberlib Jul 2017 #111
And when the evidence comes in that he is an international criminal working Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #126
Can't he still be impeached by Congress, even if he pardons himself? eShirl Jul 2017 #121
This is a Fiat Dictatorship bucolic_frolic Jul 2017 #122
It's a dictatorship if it's allowed to stand, and I have my doubts. Texin Jul 2017 #124
At this point, nothing would surprise me misanthrope Jul 2017 #169
Doesn't it sound as if he is exploring his options before tendering his resignation? Texin Jul 2017 #123
If that is the case.... Srkdqltr Jul 2017 #125
There is no right to self de-incrimination bucolic_frolic Jul 2017 #131
The Onion is now officially obsolete. matt819 Jul 2017 #132
This message was self-deleted by its author Jake Stern Jul 2017 #133
Only someone as dumb as Drumpf would think that he could actually pardon himself red dog 1 Jul 2017 #134
Clueless In Washington apkhgp Jul 2017 #137
Under what circumstance would he even consider such thoughts? He has no ties to Russia. ffr Jul 2017 #139
Bush the elder pardoned people who could have testified against him . . FairWinds Jul 2017 #141
I just cannot wrap my head around the idea that Trump might be able to pardon himself. hamsterjill Jul 2017 #143
There is really only one family member Cheetolini* wants to pardon... Raster Jul 2017 #153
What a frikkin carny side show we're in. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2017 #154
Carnival barker. Props go to President Obama. mobeau69 Jul 2017 #167
Ah, thank you BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2017 #168
I'm pretty sure you can't pardon yourself Dopers_Greed Jul 2017 #156
And why would he even be asking about this if he or the family were clean? calimary Jul 2017 #157
When has Dipshit expressed a curiousity in anything? Thor_MN Jul 2017 #164
Self-pardoning is a very sovereign citizen move jmowreader Jul 2017 #165
If he does that everyone will know that they are without a doubt guilty. n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Jul 2017 #166
Trump will take every extreme unimaginable measure and get away unblemished Awsi Dooger Jul 2017 #170
Yes he can -- and Congress can impeach him for it! Shoonra Jul 2017 #171
The problem with that is Orcrist Jul 2017 #172
To be honest, at this point I don't even care about charges. logosoco Jul 2017 #173
He cannot pardon State crimes in State courts like NY, NJ, etc... Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #174
He cannot pardon State crimes in State courts like NY, NJ, etc... Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #176
Convictions are needed to exercise the pardon prerogative bucolic_frolic Jul 2017 #177
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