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Gabi Hayes

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15. Was Pearl Harbor an act of war?

Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:11 AM

Jul 2017

So was this!

Look up Kurt eichenwalds passionate assertion and you might be swayed

This was treason of the highest order

No fffffing question

They stole our election and will steal our constitution

Read Democracy in Chains if you think I'm exaggerating

They're most of the way down the road

Six more states till a constitutional convention

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I've come to the conclusion that it isn't treason [View all] bluecollar2 Jul 2017 OP

Just a bit premature, I'd say. nt greyl Jul 2017 #1

at least 9 months too late, i'd say.... unblock Jul 2017 #2

It's too early for someone to conclude it isn't treason. greyl Jul 2017 #4

seems you were responding to the o.p. title while i was responding to the o.p. body ;) unblock Jul 2017 #7

"Just a bit premature, I'd say." LenaBaby61 Jul 2017 #3

LOL....oh really? Skittles Jul 2017 #5

Actually, its racketeering AND treason. kysrsoze Jul 2017 #10

and I'd agree with you dweller Jul 2017 #6

when he gives back the buildings KT2000 Jul 2017 #8

He openly called for a hostile foreign power GallopingGhost Jul 2017 #9

My definition includes "conspiring with an adversarial nation to steal the Presidency." WinkyDink Jul 2017 #11

your definition isn't in the Constitution. onenote Jul 2017 #20

I've had this dicussion with many of you before louis c Jul 2017 #38

How can you know? Accepting bribes to enact policies favorable to an adversary would be treason. pnwmom Jul 2017 #12

the word "adversary" simply is not in the definition of treason. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #16

The word "enemies" applies to Russia, since they used cyberwarfare to attack our Democracy. pnwmom Jul 2017 #17

Only applies if we are at war with them. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #23

We weren't at war with Japan when they attacked us at Pearl Harbor. pnwmom Jul 2017 #24

Everyone considers blowing up your battleships an act of war. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #25

You apparently haven't noticed that the people who are in charge of retaliating pnwmom Jul 2017 #31

You do understand that a "state of war" is entered into by "states", right? Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #32

You do understand that our intelligence services say that the GOVERNMENT of Russia was behind pnwmom Jul 2017 #33

Yes of course they were. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #39

Oh, got it. You're one of the "what about-ers." We're all just equivalent, according to you. pnwmom Jul 2017 #40

We got an authorization from congress for Vietnam. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #44

People just aren't getting their heads around the fact that a cyber attack is an act a war. FSogol Jul 2017 #42

When do we break diplomatic relations with every Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #43

No, the worst Russian action was hacking into the election systems of at least 20 of our states pnwmom Jul 2017 #45

These efforts were unsuccessful as far as we know. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #46

Your last paragraph is a perfect example of "everyone does it." Thanks for making my point. FSogol Jul 2017 #47

When the subject is what constitutes an act of war Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #48

No, but she could declare that we will treat the hacking and electoral interference as an act of war. FSogol Jul 2017 #49

Ok, but you do realize that gets Trump Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #50

We are at war with them even though that is NOT required to be treason. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #26

No we are not at war with Russia and yes it is required to be treason. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #28

wrong Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #29

yes well as I noted up thread, in case law "enemies" means nations or organizations Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #30

We have to get off the concept of calling it meddling. moda253 Jul 2017 #18

treason is a very specific crime Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #13

We might as well scrap treason from the books ck4829 Jul 2017 #14

Was Pearl Harbor an act of war? Gabi Hayes Jul 2017 #15

That what isn't treason? Iggo Jul 2017 #19

All of the behaviour... bluecollar2 Jul 2017 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author Iggo Jul 2017 #37

Nice trolling. MariaCSR Jul 2017 #21

Ka ching, you are correct sir Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #27

Since we are kinda in uncharted territory here--- Grammy23 Jul 2017 #22

make the case to who? The Attorney General? DrDan Jul 2017 #34

checking back in bluecollar2 Jul 2017 #35

Agreed loyalsister Jul 2017 #41

DNC has little power or money. Need prominent dems sharedvalues Jul 2017 #51

The attack and infiltration of voting is an act of war. bettyellen Jul 2017 #52