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Eliot Rosewater

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29. wrong

Reply to Voltaire2 (Reply #28)

Fri Jul 21, 2017, 06:16 PM

Jul 2017

or giving aid and comfort to its enemies by one who owes it allegiance.

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I've come to the conclusion that it isn't treason [View all] bluecollar2 Jul 2017 OP

Just a bit premature, I'd say. nt greyl Jul 2017 #1

at least 9 months too late, i'd say.... unblock Jul 2017 #2

It's too early for someone to conclude it isn't treason. greyl Jul 2017 #4

seems you were responding to the o.p. title while i was responding to the o.p. body ;) unblock Jul 2017 #7

"Just a bit premature, I'd say." LenaBaby61 Jul 2017 #3

LOL....oh really? Skittles Jul 2017 #5

Actually, its racketeering AND treason. kysrsoze Jul 2017 #10

and I'd agree with you dweller Jul 2017 #6

when he gives back the buildings KT2000 Jul 2017 #8

He openly called for a hostile foreign power GallopingGhost Jul 2017 #9

My definition includes "conspiring with an adversarial nation to steal the Presidency." WinkyDink Jul 2017 #11

your definition isn't in the Constitution. onenote Jul 2017 #20

I've had this dicussion with many of you before louis c Jul 2017 #38

How can you know? Accepting bribes to enact policies favorable to an adversary would be treason. pnwmom Jul 2017 #12

the word "adversary" simply is not in the definition of treason. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #16

The word "enemies" applies to Russia, since they used cyberwarfare to attack our Democracy. pnwmom Jul 2017 #17

Only applies if we are at war with them. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #23

We weren't at war with Japan when they attacked us at Pearl Harbor. pnwmom Jul 2017 #24

Everyone considers blowing up your battleships an act of war. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #25

You apparently haven't noticed that the people who are in charge of retaliating pnwmom Jul 2017 #31

You do understand that a "state of war" is entered into by "states", right? Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #32

You do understand that our intelligence services say that the GOVERNMENT of Russia was behind pnwmom Jul 2017 #33

Yes of course they were. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #39

Oh, got it. You're one of the "what about-ers." We're all just equivalent, according to you. pnwmom Jul 2017 #40

We got an authorization from congress for Vietnam. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #44

People just aren't getting their heads around the fact that a cyber attack is an act a war. FSogol Jul 2017 #42

When do we break diplomatic relations with every Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #43

No, the worst Russian action was hacking into the election systems of at least 20 of our states pnwmom Jul 2017 #45

These efforts were unsuccessful as far as we know. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #46

Your last paragraph is a perfect example of "everyone does it." Thanks for making my point. FSogol Jul 2017 #47

When the subject is what constitutes an act of war Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #48

No, but she could declare that we will treat the hacking and electoral interference as an act of war. FSogol Jul 2017 #49

Ok, but you do realize that gets Trump Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #50

We are at war with them even though that is NOT required to be treason. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #26

No we are not at war with Russia and yes it is required to be treason. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #28

wrong Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #29

yes well as I noted up thread, in case law "enemies" means nations or organizations Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #30

We have to get off the concept of calling it meddling. moda253 Jul 2017 #18

treason is a very specific crime Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #13

We might as well scrap treason from the books ck4829 Jul 2017 #14

Was Pearl Harbor an act of war? Gabi Hayes Jul 2017 #15

That what isn't treason? Iggo Jul 2017 #19

All of the behaviour... bluecollar2 Jul 2017 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author Iggo Jul 2017 #37

Nice trolling. MariaCSR Jul 2017 #21

Ka ching, you are correct sir Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #27

Since we are kinda in uncharted territory here--- Grammy23 Jul 2017 #22

make the case to who? The Attorney General? DrDan Jul 2017 #34

checking back in bluecollar2 Jul 2017 #35

Agreed loyalsister Jul 2017 #41

DNC has little power or money. Need prominent dems sharedvalues Jul 2017 #51

The attack and infiltration of voting is an act of war. bettyellen Jul 2017 #52