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38. There's also a reason why so many of these places are in Utah

Thu Jul 12, 2012, 11:57 AM

Jul 2012

And also other countries: their supervision of these places is very lax. Most states won't allow them.

This "school" isn't a "granola" wilderness-type boarding school, where students learn real skills and take care of animals and gardens while also learning academic subjects from real teachers. These schools aren't even like a military school, which is a real school, and the best of them teach organization and personal discipline. These places are abusive prisons.

Minors in this country are afforded very few rights over themselves, and this father is a frigging HERO for getting his kid a LEGAL way out. He didn't break the law, nor did his son or his son's new wife.

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Millionaire allows teen son to marry housekeeper's daughter, avoid school [View all] Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 OP

Florida. nt Javaman Jul 2012 #1

'sez it all. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #3

Please enlighten me. What is the "all" that it "sez"? Edweird Jul 2012 #19

Yeah! And? A FLORIDA dad used the rules to keep his son out of a private reform school/prison. Edweird Jul 2012 #14

+1 good for the Dad obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #16

And what does his millionare-ness have to do with it? 2ndAmForComputers Jul 2012 #24

this 16 year old will grow up amounting to nothing. WI_DEM Jul 2012 #2

Why? obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #15

+1000. pnwmom Jul 2012 #55

IOW....the Junior Senator from Florida(R) ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2012 #26

Logan River Academy is a teen behavior modification facility. Lasher Jul 2012 #4

My brother went to one of those. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #7

Exactly -- a "boot camp" where th4 kids are prisoners obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #12

Oh wow... I wish I had seen this info before writing my post downthread. PotatoChip Jul 2012 #21

It really is difficult to understand what's going on in this case without Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #27

The marriage made his son legally an adult obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #43

Yes, I realize that now. PotatoChip Jul 2012 #46

I have a "thing" about these so-called schools obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #57

I'm so sorry to hear about this person you know. PotatoChip Jul 2012 #60

That sheds an entirely different light on the whole story. hifiguy Jul 2012 #31

This is just another shitty example of what passes for journalism in the US. Lasher Jul 2012 #63

This will be one for the lawyers. He did not break any laws. He just made a court order moot. CBGLuthier Jul 2012 #5

Without really knowing why the mother would take such an extreme measure, it really Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #10

This isn't a military school obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #17

Would keep my eye on the Miami Herald to see what develops. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #18

Short of the son being a serial killer, no, it isn't hard at all to judge. 2ndAmForComputers Jul 2012 #25

I hate the way the media covers these things treestar Jul 2012 #6

With his kind of money, I'm sure that if there is another side of this story, we'll hear about it. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #8

Good for the Dad -- this appears to be a "boot camp" wilderness place obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #9

You're probably right. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #11

That's just so wrong. Wtf? PotatoChip Jul 2012 #13

Some links about this youth prison masquerading as a school obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #20

Thanks for the info obamanut. PotatoChip Jul 2012 #22

The 180 days in jail are SO worth it. 2ndAmForComputers Jul 2012 #23

Good info. Bravo to the dad! JNelson6563 Jul 2012 #30

You're welcome obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #44

I was just about to google that, thank you. Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #47

The rich ARE different from you and me... MrScorpio Jul 2012 #28

So what would you have done differently? Edweird Jul 2012 #29

Uhhhh� YEAH! nt MrScorpio Jul 2012 #36

Again, I ask: What would you have done differently? Edweird Jul 2012 #37

I would have sent the kid to school MrScorpio Jul 2012 #45

I really recommend Cal Carpenter Jul 2012 #48

Couldn't they have sent the kind to a different school for better care? MrScorpio Jul 2012 #50

I realize Cal Carpenter Jul 2012 #54

Ignorant knee-jerk comments are much more entertaining :) Edweird Jul 2012 #53

That's what I did! And it ended up ... poorly. ieoeja Jul 2012 #49

Florida dad (1) Dads from wherever you are, being represented by you (0) Edweird Jul 2012 #52

Wow obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #58

A different school, not the one listed MrScorpio Jul 2012 #59

Except that the son was COURT ORDERED to go there. You, as father, have no discretion. Edweird Jul 2012 #61

THERE WAS A COURT ORDER as the OP stated obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #62

More info here: Cal Carpenter Jul 2012 #32

Holy Miscarriage of Justice! Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #33

There's also a reason why so many of these places are in Utah obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #38

I recall cases where places like this were basically insurance scams... JHB Jul 2012 #51

The 16 year old did go along with it... Fearless Jul 2012 #34

I'm wondering what law was broken here for a man to be imprisoned? Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #35

+1 obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #39

+1. nt riderinthestorm Jul 2012 #41

I've never been divorced but don't 16 year olds typically get to provide some input riderinthestorm Jul 2012 #40

"Loving Father Saves Son From Abusive Youth Facility" obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #42

I think you're probably correct. Trillo Jul 2012 #56