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The Velveteen Ocelot

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2. Innocent presidents aren't likely to be researching whether

Sat Jul 22, 2017, 02:21 PM

Jul 2017

they can pardon themselves. Innocent presidents don't try to interfere with investigations and fire people who are conducting them. It is hard to say at this point whether Trump and his minions will pay for their crimes, and if so, how. One thing to keep in mind is that a president can issue pardons only for federal crimes - not for state crimes. At least some of Trump's and Kushner's dirty deals would have occurred in NYC, and NY Attorney General Eric Schneiderman is already investigating. He can't fire state AGs, prosecutors or investigators, either. And state prisons tend to be far less pleasant places than federal minimum security prisons. These facts cheer me up immensely.

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I'll Give Trump The Benefit Of The Doubt - He Might Be Innocent - But I Want Some Assurances That... [View all] global1 Jul 2017 OP

There are no assurances. Ms. Toad Jul 2017 #1

Yep, it'll be the convictions in the states that get them... SeattleVet Jul 2017 #3

I don't think Pence can pardon anybody. Turbineguy Jul 2017 #6

+1000 Pachamama Jul 2017 #7

Once he becomes president, he will have the power of the pardon. Ms. Toad Jul 2017 #8

Innocent presidents aren't likely to be researching whether The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #2

Nice to see them in orange, as Repubs put kids w mj in Alice11111 Jul 2017 #5

I see no reason to give him the benefit of the doubt. Solly Mack Jul 2017 #4