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emulatorloo

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44. "I'm spending the majority of my political time in the real world" suggested to me you maybe
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 07:25 PM
Jul 2017

had better things to do and skipped DU during 2016.

I've been around since '03 so we're both old timers. DU back then kept me sane.

I will tell you that I personally regret hanging around DU 2016! It was poisonous and I wished I had not stayed.

Have admired Bernie for a very long time, and was very happy when he decided to run. No one explains issues like income inequality better than Bernie. Bernie was my candidate in the primary.
I may have told you I always support and donate if I can to the person with the most left leaning positions in the primary. And then support and knock doors for the nominees.

Bernie is the first candidate in a long long time that I felt so close to in terms of political ideology. That was so exciting.

"Believe me, I, and others, have not forgotten. Nor, in many cases, forgiven"

I had a serious problem with alleged Bernie supporters on DU using right-wing sources like Fox, Washington Times, and even Breitbart on occasion to smear Democrats in 2016. I had a serious problem when Republican hack Joe DiGenova was treated as a "truth Teller" and slobbered over.

I call them alleged because one doesn't support a man of integrity like Bernie by using egregious right-wing sources the man would hate and despise. A fellow DU Bernie supporter called them "Bernie Detractors" because they detracted from the message of Senator Sanders.

There was plenty of garbage on the other "side" which bothered me. But I expected integrity on our "side" that I didn't necessarily expect from them. It's more complicated probably but:

No leftist I know in real life gets in bed with right-wingers to smear Democrats. One argues policy, one argues strategy. But one never applies right-wing smears.

I still have some anger w Bernie's campaign staff. IMHO Weaver's inexperience and poor decisions had a fair amount to do with Bernie not winning the nomination. He's a great friend and supporter of Bernie but not suited or experienced enough to run A lost opportunity.

At any rate you're right. Time to forgive, or at least let go. And set the personal aside for good of all.

Take care and





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The term "neoliberal" has been basterdized to the point of no return. NCTraveler Jul 2017 #1
If you use the term "neoliberal", IMO you've lost the argument. LisaM Jul 2017 #2
I disagree. It means a LOT, but it can be summed up.......... socialist_n_TN Jul 2017 #3
Yes. LWolf Jul 2017 #8
Folks used the term "neo-liberal" on DU'ers who are adamantly against trickle-down and privatization emulatorloo Jul 2017 #10
The manipulating LWolf Jul 2017 #12
I've beem called neoliberal... Adrahil Jul 2017 #13
No I am saying progressives and left-liberals at DU were called 'neo-liberals' emulatorloo Jul 2017 #14
Thanks. LWolf Jul 2017 #37
Dunno if you were here in 2016, but it was self-described 'progressives' pushing the false divide emulatorloo Jul 2017 #39
I've been here since '02. LWolf Jul 2017 #43
"I'm spending the majority of my political time in the real world" suggested to me you maybe emulatorloo Jul 2017 #44
No. LWolf Jul 2017 #45
Thanks for a dose of reality. nt PufPuf23 Jul 2017 #17
Excellent post. Thank you. nt Doremus Jul 2017 #21
Good explanation. Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2017 #28
I think the reality is that LWolf Jul 2017 #38
then it doesn't apply to anyone to the left of Paul Ryan, and it's very puzzling why it geek tragedy Jul 2017 #16
Obama and Clinton both bought into the neo-liberal mindset......... socialist_n_TN Jul 2017 #19
However... yallerdawg Jul 2017 #25
The PROC is NOT a model for Marxism........ socialist_n_TN Jul 2017 #35
Is there any functioning model left? Was there ever any? yallerdawg Jul 2017 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author ymetca Jul 2017 #31
Obama managed to be a Socialist Alinskyite geek tragedy Jul 2017 #33
I've never seen a real, card-carrying, dues paying socialist.......... socialist_n_TN Jul 2017 #34
He was also a Muslim who had a Crazy Christian preacher at his church! emulatorloo Jul 2017 #40
+1 leftstreet Jul 2017 #30
Well, since I'veh heard it applied to me and to other HRC voters... LisaM Jul 2017 #11
Not a meaningless label at all. You can pretend that it is but that's a surprising behavior Doremus Jul 2017 #23
Meaningless in that it has been misapplied one too many times in 2016 emulatorloo Jul 2017 #41
Totally. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #26
With Thomas Friedman, it's kind of deserved. HughBeaumont Jul 2017 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste Jul 2017 #5
In my experience, people who use the term "neo-liberal" don't actually know what it means. Foamfollower Jul 2017 #6
Yep Means in favor of trickle down economics and privatization. To people who use it, means emulatorloo Jul 2017 #9
I always think Libertarians ismnotwasm Jul 2017 #7
one of those words that mean whatever the person using it want it to mean, e.g. "corporatist" geek tragedy Jul 2017 #15
Slapping a stupid label on everything and everyone to discredit them is the height of intellectual Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #18
If "neoliberal" means fiscal conservative, social liberal, and pro free trade taught_me_patience Jul 2017 #20
What's a "fiscal conservative" and how does it jive with Democratic principles? nt Doremus Jul 2017 #24
A counter to the GOP principle of running up huge deficits while cutting taxes on rich people emulatorloo Jul 2017 #42
When I read neoliberal definition Dem2 Jul 2017 #22
I find those that use the term neoliberal Eko Jul 2017 #27
Neolution is the real danger tirebiter Jul 2017 #29
Neoliberal replaced Third Way as the popular mindless go-to insult 'cause it has more syllables betsuni Jul 2017 #32
Ms. Peyser put out a call to the wrong people. LWolf Jul 2017 #46
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