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mr_lebowski

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19. Synthetic Opioids is a meaningless distinction ... since we're making bones ;)
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 01:01 AM
Jul 2017

The term 'Opioids' in it's current understanding (medically) encompasses everything from pure opium poppies to morphine to heroin to oxy to fentanyl. If it stimulates the body's opioid receptors (in particular the mu receptor), it's an opioid.

And there's not ALL THAT much difference between any of them, regardless whether they're derived directly from opium (poppies, morphine, codeine) or thebaine (a poppy product with minimal opioid-like properties but which serves as a pre-cursor for semi-synthetics such as hydro and oxycodone, or methadone), or entirely synthesized like Demerol & Fentanyl.

One exception being buprenorphine, which is an uber-long lasting drug that's only a partial agonist but with very strong binding affinity (in a sense, like naloxone or naltrexone ... which are opioid-ANTagonists, but also with very high binding affinity for the receptors) and hence works a bit differently from it's cousins ... recently used in treating addiction (aka 'subs'). It's also a semi-synthetic, derived from thebaine.

Also ... if you were an alcoholic 50 years ago, it's almost certain you're dead, esp. if you later became an opioid addict

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WTF. . . [View all] BigDemVoter Jul 2017 OP
I am absolutely disgusted and appalled with our human garbage President... skylucy Jul 2017 #1
It's a hard thing for the BSA. plimsoll Jul 2017 #14
Except the BSA are so godly...and now so is the GOP. Crash2Parties Jul 2017 #16
Can't argue that point away. plimsoll Jul 2017 #18
I agree however the BSA needs to make a new statement other than... WePurrsevere Jul 2017 #26
+1 Totally agree. n/t FSogol Jul 2017 #30
They won't. Bunch of cowards in shorts. pangaia Jul 2017 #34
"Cowards in shorts?" Lol... WePurrsevere Jul 2017 #37
Oh my you are kind. Im blushing. pangaia Jul 2017 #38
Exactly. Thank you n/t sarge43 Jul 2017 #41
Only one beef with your rant, BDV. Hugin Jul 2017 #2
Synthetic Opioids is a meaningless distinction ... since we're making bones ;) mr_lebowski Jul 2017 #19
... Hugin Jul 2017 #25
There are young and younger people in the cult too. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2017 #45
I'm only citing the demographics of the election, Ma'am. Hugin Jul 2017 #49
That's true, the demographics showed that. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2017 #53
This shit has never happened before. The_Casual_Observer Jul 2017 #3
Did you see the Ringers placed in the Wellstone ruled Jul 2017 #4
Surprised they weren't brown shirts. George II Jul 2017 #6
This stunt today really Wellstone ruled Jul 2017 #9
See my earlier response. plimsoll Jul 2017 #15
BSA got suckered big time. Wellstone ruled Jul 2017 #17
BSA leadership should have never allowed the maggot yo use their top event as a onetexan Jul 2017 #52
Sound judgment requires knowing when "policy" cut it jberryhill Jul 2017 #27
They knew what he is and what he would do pangaia Jul 2017 #35
When the BSA leadership comes out ... Whiskeytide Jul 2017 #40
My outrage over this left me in tears. He is evil! cornball 24 Jul 2017 #5
He's Moussolini talking to the Brown Shirts. Stonepounder Jul 2017 #7
I'm Convinced The Crowd Was Fully Planted.... Grassy Knoll Jul 2017 #8
I refuse to watch him. Within 5 seconds, he says something nasty ecstatic Jul 2017 #10
You're more tolerant than I am. I give him a nanosecond and switch him off. BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #11
Pig's BSA address another sad episode in our nation's history. mobeau69 Jul 2017 #12
Watching that video I'm in tears NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #29
BSA owes America a HUGE apology for this disgusting display jmbar2 Jul 2017 #13
That crossed a line that should not have been crossed. Initech Jul 2017 #20
can you imagine bora13 Jul 2017 #21
Thank heavens orangecrush Jul 2017 #23
He should be charged orangecrush Jul 2017 #22
Contributing to the delinquency of minors. That was said back in the day. sprinkleeninow Jul 2017 #43
K&R for WTF. dchill Jul 2017 #24
Everything Trump does is low get the red out Jul 2017 #28
The leadership should have shown more sense perdita9 Jul 2017 #32
Trump poisons everything he touches perdita9 Jul 2017 #31
Not one redeeming value. n/t zentrum Jul 2017 #33
Trump and the nihilistic libertarian republican party workinclasszero Jul 2017 #36
Yes, this should never be normal. n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Jul 2017 #39
All presidents are invited to speak. Here is President Obamas speech at Jamboree. quite a difference Sunlei Jul 2017 #42
Thank you for saying that BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2017 #44
Fuck the Boy Scouts. They're the new Hitler Youth. Still In Wisconsin Jul 2017 #46
He is pure evil. smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #47
Sometimes it is appropriate to ... Puzzler Jul 2017 #48
Trump is white trash. Hieronymus Jul 2017 #50
I had to listen MFM008 Jul 2017 #51
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