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applegrove

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Sat Jul 29, 2017, 07:17 PM Jul 2017

Being rich wrecks your soul. We used to know that. [View all]

By Charles Mathewes and Evan Sandsmark at the Washington Post

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/being-rich-wrecks-your-soul-we-used-to-know-that/2017/07/28/7d3e2b90-5ab3-11e7-9fc6-c7ef4bc58d13_story.html?utm_term=.26549d6f1769

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The idea that wealth is morally perilous has an impressive philosophical and religious pedigree. Ancient Stoic philosophers railed against greed and luxury, and Roman historians such as Tacitus lay many of the empire’s struggles at the feet of imperial avarice. Confucius lived an austere life. The Buddha famously left his opulent palace behind. And Jesus didn’t exactly go easy on the rich, either — think camels and needles, for starters.

The point is not necessarily that wealth is intrinsically and everywhere evil, but that it is dangerous — that it should be eyed with caution and suspicion, and definitely not pursued as an end in itself; that great riches pose great risks to their owners; and that societies are right to stigmatize the storing up of untold wealth. That’s why Aristotle, for instance, argued that wealth should be sought only for the sake of living virtuously — to manage a household, say, or to participate in the life of the polis. Here wealth is useful but not inherently good; indeed, Aristotle specifically warned that the accumulation of wealth for its own sake corrupts virtue instead of enabling it. For Hindus, working hard to earn money is a duty (dharma), but only when done through honest means and used for good ends. The function of money is not to satiate greed but to support oneself and one’s family. The Koran, too, warns against hoarding money and enjoins Muslims to disperse it to the needy.

Some contemporary voices join this ancient chorus, perhaps none more enthusiastically than Pope Francis. He’s proclaimed that unless wealth is used for the good of society, and above all for the good of the poor, it is an instrument “of corruption and death.” And Francis lives what he teaches: Despite access to some of the sweetest real estate imaginable — the palatial papal apartments are the sort of thing that President Trump’s gold-plated extravagance is a parody of — the pope bunks in a small suite in what is effectively the Vatican’s hostel. In his official state visit to Washington, he pulled up to the White House in a Fiat so sensible that a denizen of Northwest D.C. would be almost embarrassed to drive it. When Francis entered the Jesuit order 59 years ago, he took a vow of poverty, and he’s kept it.

According to many philosophies and faiths, then, wealth should serve only as a steppingstone to some further good and is always fraught with moral danger. We all used to recognize this; it was a commonplace. And this intuition, shared by various cultures across history, stands on firm empirical ground.

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I hate hearing all the judginess toward people who have any money saved- bettyellen Jul 2017 #1
They've done studies. You need to have some challenges in your life applegrove Jul 2017 #4
Many big challenges- major loss, illness, bad fortune have nothing to do with poor finances bettyellen Jul 2017 #21
I think that there is a danger to great wealth. There is a danger in many applegrove Jul 2017 #25
I get that. But none of us are to be blamed for the circumstances we're born to. Some make more ... bettyellen Jul 2017 #26
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A study I read a few months. Seeking out challenges rather than taking the applegrove Jul 2017 #33
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In looking for the article I found this: applegrove Jul 2017 #35
I watched it happen to my father as he got more and more money. no_hypocrisy Jul 2017 #2
You have to work to stay grounded. In mixed discussion forums the right applegrove Jul 2017 #3
+1, and it doesn't matter how straight broke they are either they think they've made "it" and have uponit7771 Jul 2017 #39
It wasnt wealth so much the Buddha was eschewing, it was attachment Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #5
I am not so good at learning new things by reading. I found buddhism applegrove Jul 2017 #7
Caveat: I don't pretend to be an expert. Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #9
Yes. I could not 'unpack it's. Plus I have ptsd and some of the terms set applegrove Jul 2017 #11
This explanation is considerably better than mine. defacto7 Jul 2017 #14
"God complex" moondust Jul 2017 #6
Absolutely. I think human beings are happiest when the experience awe. applegrove Jul 2017 #8
Well, here's a little anecdote from my teen years. Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #12
I just finished reading tribe that goes into how people are happiest applegrove Jul 2017 #16
Or just living inauthentic lives Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #19
Absolutely. applegrove Jul 2017 #20
Reminds me of when my dad started working for Uber wealthy Park Av dwellers - he was shocked bettyellen Jul 2017 #24
It's hard for the media entrenched people we are to see the wisdom defacto7 Jul 2017 #10
I think the idea that wealth has some dangers built into it is important. applegrove Jul 2017 #13
It's an important thing to keep in mind. Self examination defacto7 Jul 2017 #17
And all Texans are rednecked, racist, gun-toting Republicans, too DFW Jul 2017 #15
Oh i agree. applegrove Jul 2017 #18
Depends on how you define rich... brooklynite Jul 2017 #22
You are interconnected and authentic and have meaningful work , I would applegrove Jul 2017 #23
I've worked with soulless rich leople kimbutgar Jul 2017 #27
I was challenging some righties that is the US treestar Jul 2017 #28
Right. Those Kennedys are awful people who never do anything to benefit others Beaverhausen Jul 2017 #29
I posted the part about wealth being a danger. I wanted that to get out. Of applegrove Jul 2017 #30
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I think she is an amazing person who has not fallen into the pitfalls of being very rich. applegrove Jul 2017 #36
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She was a great Senator. Her children's defense fund work. First ladyships. Women's rights. applegrove Jul 2017 #38
Damn! I was going to reply to this one, too! Rhiannon12866 Jul 2017 #41
A society that permits or encourages hoarding will suffer for it. byronius Jul 2017 #40
This is really an article about Americans who don't know how to be happy BeyondGeography Jul 2017 #42
Well compared to other countries many, many Americans are wealthy. applegrove Jul 2017 #43
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