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Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
44. Terrific summary
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 08:57 PM
Jul 2017

I wish I had thought of it.

I don't know if I would call Trump's target the average person. They are the typical person who is already predisposed to fear and bigotry, even if most of them would deny it or not think of themselves that way.

My aunt is a great example. She is sweet but very simple. Has no clue what either party stands for in general. But she was a registered Democrat who voted twice for Obama. Last spring my aunt announced she was now a registered Republican and enthusiastic Trump supporter. She is still enthused about Trump and refuses to believe any argument against him. Trump won her over by asserting that he would safeguard religious liberties. My aunt always pushes her religion on me. Never fails to happen or to be awkward. I'm not going to shut up. I tell her I'm a probability guy and the existence of God makes no sense. Somehow my aunt takes that to mean that her beliefs are belittled or attacked. She wants everybody to be holding that bible in church every Sunday and nod in unison while reciting some hymn or prayer. Anyone who doesn't participate is evil in her eyes.

So my aunt has essentially been waiting all her life for someone like Donald Trump, someone who would invent a problem and multiply reality by thousands while shouting and gesturing all the way. I guarantee my aunt doesn't know who Robert Mueller is but she feels calmed and protected by Donald Trump. I had never known my aunt to be hateful or bigoted until she told me she doesn't want gay couples kissing in the pew in front of her at church, and she's thrilled Donald Trump will build that wall to keep out murderous Mexicans.

Transfer and amend that as necessary and it attaches to millions of Americans. I know I criticize Rachel Maddow too frequently around here but one of the reasons I do it is that Rachel Maddow is exactly the opposite of Donald Trump. That may seem great but in this case it means that she has no idea what causes people to vote the way they do, or whether to vote at all. If Rachel chased a slogan it would be long and issue oriented and mostly worthless. Notice that her program title doesn't contain a short strong modifier along with her name, unlike every other primetime host on MSNBC. I've always wondered about that. Doesn't strike me as coincidence. Trump in the same spot as opposition leader of the most visible network talk show would absolutely guarantee to have a powerful memorable show title, along with his name, of course.

Donald Trump is going to be hellish to oust in 2020. He'll get there. I don't believe in Happy Adjustments as opposed to big picture logic. Day to day may be outrageous but too many people are inept handicappers and take the conclusions absurdly far, that Trump will either be impeached or resign or switch to independent or be dumped by his party. Sorry, I rely on normalcy. A presidential incumbent will be re-nominated by his party and own massive advantages via that incumbency.

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He apparently learned a lot of his "messaging" tactics from reading Hitler's speeches hlthe2b Jul 2017 #1
Newt Gingrich is the father of political propaganda and he advises Trump. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2017 #43
He's smart and savvy in a lot of ways. GreenEyedLefty Jul 2017 #2
Canny is not the same as intelligent. HE KNOWS NOTHING!!! READ HIS STUPID ADMONISHING TWEETS! WinkyDink Jul 2017 #3
He rents his name...his branding is leased... HipChick Jul 2017 #4
He's ultimately a salesman, and he's very good at selling. Tatiana Jul 2017 #5
Don't mistake cunning for intelligence. politicat Jul 2017 #6
Excellent take. "He doesn't understand why moonscape Jul 2017 #32
Well put. nocalflea Jul 2017 #41
Give me some huge loans and no conscience Bradical79 Jul 2017 #7
Bingo! n/t Hugin Jul 2017 #9
Exactly! He has the cunning of a predator, but it should not be mistaken for smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #15
And you can "save" a lot of money when you don't pay spooky3 Jul 2017 #26
No ... GeorgeGist Jul 2017 #8
this standingtall Jul 2017 #10
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2017 #13
You don't have to be smart CatMor Jul 2017 #11
No, he's a professional fuck up with billion of Russian money to play with... too tight with Russian uponit7771 Jul 2017 #12
He's a con man... Adrahil Jul 2017 #14
No n/t. Greybnk48 Jul 2017 #16
He's a bully whose gotten ahead by screwing people and having enough money... brush Jul 2017 #17
+1 spooky3 Jul 2017 #27
I think Trump is nothing more than a dumb bomb. xor Jul 2017 #18
Sociopaths and narcissists know what people want to hear leftstreet Jul 2017 #19
many ways to measure intellect SWBTATTReg Jul 2017 #20
How do you estimate the intellect of a pile of rotting garbage? superpatriotman Jul 2017 #21
I guess this is a matter True Dough Jul 2017 #22
The best garbage. Believe me. superpatriotman Jul 2017 #29
His political success occurred because wealthy and unscrupulous people tblue37 Jul 2017 #23
A monkey could grunt and get 30% approval. A-Schwarzenegger Jul 2017 #24
Apparently an additional 8% bonus for flinging his poo. flibbitygiblets Jul 2017 #28
Then the monkey fires his own poo A-Schwarzenegger Jul 2017 #30
It's like Jeopardy vs. Family Feud. Towlie Jul 2017 #25
Terrific summary Awsi Dooger Jul 2017 #44
He's a first class con artist. Kaleva Jul 2017 #31
We had this same discussion about W. MindPilot Jul 2017 #33
DOLT 45 Goonch Jul 2017 #34
That's key right there. MindPilot Jul 2017 #36
He's a world class huckster, especially when it comes to branding. Vinca Jul 2017 #35
He's the quality of all "as seen on TV" products hopeforchange2008 Jul 2017 #37
+1 oasis Jul 2017 #46
I'm not sure he even understands object permanence. Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #38
I must admit True Dough Jul 2017 #42
45's words registered because he's rich and white .. ananda Jul 2017 #39
His "achievements" don't require intellect. Dave Starsky Jul 2017 #40
Cunning and brilliance are not the same thing (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Jul 2017 #45
He is good at branding oberliner Jul 2017 #47
Actually he didn't get a loan Motownman78 Jul 2017 #48
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