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Ninsianna

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179. Some people seem to be rather amused by their little game of hiding behind

Mon Jul 31, 2017, 03:47 AM

Jul 2017

tweets like this that were clearly made in error, to attack Democrats, particularly female ones.

People really do need to check things before they start disseminating things and then digging their heels in. Even if the article was too much, any of the hundreds of replies would have shed some light on the matter.

This whole blind jingoism of simply "trusting" people who are attacking the people that some wish to attack is not really passing the smell test.

This level of attack is something that the right feeds on, we need to call it out when they engage in this, not give it a platform, and be playing games for ones own amusement. I'm disturbed by the level of animosity coming from the OP and his defender. It was a mistake, Tribe made one too, accept it, acknowledge and move on, why must it be this toxic and who insists on making it so? And why are they allowed to?

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Say what Nancy Pelosi? [View all] Kingofalldems Jul 2017 OP

Taken out of context. Get a grip wasupaloopa Jul 2017 #1

Exactly, how is this out of context? Chasstev365 Jul 2017 #7

WATCH THE VIDEO BELOW. What she said isn't "TERRIBLE", nor did she misspeak - George II Jul 2017 #19

This is a good illustration of the mistaken power of the Tweet. Tribe should be embarrassed. Eyeball_Kid Jul 2017 #205

BTW.... MaryLouisaWillis Jul 2017 #210

she meant it isn't important that we estimate chances of winning and that she is speaker wasupaloopa Jul 2017 #25

How about a better slogan? CrispyQ Jul 2017 #28

And Colbert.. pangaia Jul 2017 #61

Much better. elleng Jul 2017 #35

Tribe didn't bother to read past the headline. pnwmom Jul 2017 #128

So did the op but he didn't get the benefit of doubt. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #134

There is the fact that despite realizing his mistake, it's still up. Ninsianna Jul 2017 #161

Oh my, that is simply SCANDALOUS! BRING OUT THE HAIR SHIRT! No, wait - that's too good. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #163

Actually, we can't be too careful when it comes to people who violate the spirit Ninsianna Jul 2017 #168

Yes he did BainsBane Jul 2017 #174

We don't know what Tribe did if he realized his error. The error here can easily be fixed, but.... George II Jul 2017 #206

Surprises me. I hope he's not losing it, elleng Jul 2017 #135

Below is the quote from the interview. I don't think he's losing it. pnwmom Jul 2017 #139

I read the quote from the interview, elleng Jul 2017 #143

Well, lots of other people appear not to have gone past the headline. pnwmom Jul 2017 #149

You left out part of Wallace's quote. R B Garr Jul 2017 #85

No comment. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2017 #136

She said the question of whether or not she would run again to be Speaker tblue37 Jul 2017 #66

That is your bolding, not her's former9thward Jul 2017 #81

It's the only way to get her REAL point across to the readers here. George II Jul 2017 #104

She couldn't BOLD an oral response, but her answer was clear to anyone pnwmom Jul 2017 #151

Yeah, well I read and watched the video and only those looking to criticize will find that she said Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #191

No she didn't...she was talking about being speaker...some are so transparent. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #190

Here is the Hill article ProudLib72 Jul 2017 #2

The Hill distorted that intentionally. She was saying that ESTIMATING the chances of a Democratic still_one Jul 2017 #8

She said it is unimportant whether she runs again to be Speaker: tblue37 Jul 2017 #69

That too still_one Jul 2017 #94

And..................the bait was taken. George II Jul 2017 #106

sure was George still_one Jul 2017 #130

always is around here leftofcool Jul 2017 #144

You have to wonder if some hate winning...she is doing a great job and the attacks ramp up...do Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #192

context matters n/t countingbluecars Jul 2017 #3

It appears to me that she was responding instead to whether she would run for Speaker again. spooky3 Jul 2017 #4

I hope everyone knows Tribe has apologized: spooky3 Jul 2017 #216

She was asked was to estimate the chances that Democrats win back the House"? She still_one Jul 2017 #5

That's not how I read what she said.... WePurrsevere Jul 2017 #6

exactly. She wasn't going to play the "estimating game", but focus on winning on the issues. This still_one Jul 2017 #9

Sadly I'm not surprised when what a strong woman says is distorted any more... WePurrsevere Jul 2017 #21

"Estimate the Democrats chances of winning the midterms, lapucelle Jul 2017 #10

Isn't that interesting that part was ignored still_one Jul 2017 #12

I said exactly the same thing below before I read this. Thanks. George II Jul 2017 #18

Thanks lapucelle! It's so obvious except for R B Garr Jul 2017 #79

The OP left all that out. sheshe2 Jul 2017 #86

This changes the entire OP and should not have been left out...needs to Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #194

Thanks for that link to the transcript. Tactical Peek Jul 2017 #146

Surprised Tribe fell for this Egnever Jul 2017 #11

Me too nini Jul 2017 #13

Ugh Lotusflower70 Jul 2017 #14

It's not surprising when this nonsense comes lapucelle Jul 2017 #20

I know right Lotusflower70 Jul 2017 #30

Here is the entire interview for those who want to make up their own mind: demmiblue Jul 2017 #15

Funny how she didn't say winning back the House was "unimportant". George II Jul 2017 #17

I think maybe we need the sentences just before and just after that one.... George II Jul 2017 #16

A public that sees politics through 140 characters BainsBane Jul 2017 #23

So very true...sadly Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #39

This!!! Cadfael Jul 2017 #72

You disagree that the Dem party should focus on issues? BainsBane Jul 2017 #22

Just a messenger with honest concerns. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #24

I think the problem is The Hill, which has been known to exploit misleading headlines still_one Jul 2017 #27

"Concern" has a bad reputation, that scary troll word often follows. hunter Jul 2017 #34

What is your concern? BainsBane Jul 2017 #37

Lawrence Tribe, a respected Dem tweeted it. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #55

Say what? sheshe2 Jul 2017 #62

! beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #63

It was dismissive to someone who insulted me. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #64

+1 beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #67

No she did not. sheshe2 Jul 2017 #75

Well so long then. You just accused me of being dismissive Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #80

You told her to go away. sheshe2 Jul 2017 #91

He posted a TWEET, that's all there was. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #95

Good to see you again scottie sheshe2 Jul 2017 #99

Oh I know you have. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #101

Thank you so much. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #110

Post removed Post removed Jul 2017 #113

That tweet contains a link to an article BainsBane Jul 2017 #137

This is irony, right? Or performance art? beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #140

It's called a concern for facts BainsBane Jul 2017 #142

Yes it's all very concerning. I'm concerned that more people aren't properly concerned. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #145

Looks like facts, truth and context only matter for Vermont R B Garr Jul 2017 #158

I haven't seen anything BainsBane Jul 2017 #160

True! The browbeating and innuendo was over a forced R B Garr Jul 2017 #164

We are in a post-fact political culture BainsBane Jul 2017 #167

"Alternative facts", that was a huge slip on Kellyanne's R B Garr Jul 2017 #170

A highly deceptive tweet. To the point of dishonest. No effort in correction. Transparent. nt. Weekend Warrior Jul 2017 #203

I posted a freaking tweet from Lawrence Tribe. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #97

Perhaps next time do what Tribe did not do here and read the article first. Ninsianna Jul 2017 #169

The King has spoken. OBEY! betsuni Jul 2017 #87

:) sheshe2 Jul 2017 #93

How did she insult you?? n/t Chevy Jul 2017 #184

What does "female member of DU" have to do with anything? tkmorris Jul 2017 #147

This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Jul 2017 #153

That's a good question melman Jul 2017 #157

She said it's unimportant if she runs for speaker. R B Garr Jul 2017 #78

... sheshe2 Jul 2017 #108

This OP should go away now lunasun Jul 2017 #84

"Go away now"? Sure, you posted a tweet, with a very subjective subject line.... George II Jul 2017 #100

'Say what' is a question. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #109

Perhaps a more appropriate "question" might have been "What does Pelosi mean?" George II Jul 2017 #112

So what are you saying exactly? Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #114

Why did you leave out part of the definition - the very first part? beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #116

That's not how the Urban Dictionary works. Ninsianna Jul 2017 #177

You got it exactly right, George. R B Garr Jul 2017 #119

You should modify this post to include relevant facts or self-delete. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #195

A messenger who knows their OP is a gross distortion slamming Dems... and bettyellen Jul 2017 #53

Talk to Lawrence Tribe about that. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #57

I don't blame you. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #65

Thanks. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #68

You're getting fragged. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #70

Post removed Post removed Jul 2017 #73

I am not part of any freaking problem Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #74

Were they Republican kittens and puppies? beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #76

Hm. sheshe2 Jul 2017 #96

Maybe he just doesn't like to be bullied. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #98

You speak for him now? sheshe2 Jul 2017 #102

Did you speak for BB when you demanded an apology? beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #105

well beam... sheshe2 Jul 2017 #115

I suggested maybe he didn't want to be bullied, that's not speaking for someone, she. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #117

Oh oh oh.... sheshe2 Jul 2017 #123

Looks like I was right, he didn't want to be bullied. So now who's spinning? beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #133

Yup! Nailed it--Making stuff up, very very! R B Garr Jul 2017 #138

:) sheshe2 Jul 2017 #148

lol, and the comments about bullying... R B Garr Jul 2017 #150

Ha! sheshe2 Jul 2017 #152

You are correct--I did not want to be bullied. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #125

You're welcome. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #129

No I left it up because of the personal attacks. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #103

I followed the link and realized what happened. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #124

Hell I do it all the time. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #127

I've done it on Facebook and it's come back to bite me on the ass. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #131

I'm going to leave it up because people educated me.... Weekend Warrior Jul 2017 #204

You haven't tried to engage anyone who has posted or talked about the context. muriel_volestrangler Jul 2017 #180

Not even a good try. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #207

Once again, you are refusing to address any of the well-justified criticisms of your thread muriel_volestrangler Jul 2017 #212

Oh yes, now I remember you. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #213

One wonders why? At least many hear have corrected the record. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #196

The Hill's headline was DISHONEST and you chose to highlight it for some reason. pnwmom Jul 2017 #118

I saw a tweet by Lawrence Tribe, found it interesting and posted it here. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #121

You saw it and you could see that he was wrong -- respected or not. pnwmom Jul 2017 #126

I trusted his judgement. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #132

You saw a tweet attacking a Democratic leader which if you had watched the video, you would Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #197

Did you watch the video? I can't understand how you reach your conclusion. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #193

What are your "honest" concerns with respect to what was posted in the op? nt. Weekend Warrior Jul 2017 #201

A messenger who editorialized an already slanted headline to deliberately mislead. nt procon Jul 2017 #209

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Jul 2017 #26

You too? Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #29

"et tu brute". No. Not happy that The Hill distorted what was actually said in the interview, still_one Jul 2017 #36

I do that a lot. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #38

I am guilty of my own share of assumptions. One thing I know is that everyone here realizes how still_one Jul 2017 #41

Did you expect the be congratulated BainsBane Jul 2017 #40

No. I did not expect to be congratulated. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #111

Kudos to pelosi for saying that policy matters more than the horse race. unblock Jul 2017 #31

When the source is The Hill it's best to delve a bit deeper than their off the cuff reporting. herding cats Jul 2017 #32

Does Russia own "The Hill" ??? DURHAM D Jul 2017 #33

no, but they are a mixed bag still_one Jul 2017 #43

Boy, Tribe got this completely wrong mcar Jul 2017 #42

A Harvard Constitutional law professor BainsBane Jul 2017 #46

Shameful mcar Jul 2017 #47

Looks that way.... George II Jul 2017 #48

... mcar Jul 2017 #50

Oh shit! sheshe2 Jul 2017 #120

I am trying to imagine the reaction had she answered the question dsc Jul 2017 #44

True. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #45

But you still haven't edited your OP to point out that what Tribe thinks is incorrect. George II Jul 2017 #49

I put it out for discussion. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #52

Under the subject line of "Say what Nancy Pelosi?"? George II Jul 2017 #54

Sure. I trust Lawrence Tribe. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #56

Yes, he was wrong. That should have been pointed out in the OP, but I won't tell you what to post. George II Jul 2017 #58

Yes, the discussion has shown Laurence was wrong.. what more discussion can we have... JHan Jul 2017 #155

People have pointed out the errors BainsBane Jul 2017 #165

Saying "but you still haven't..." is not telling you what to post. "Do not tell me what to post" is. muriel_volestrangler Jul 2017 #181

Say What? Well she didn't say THAT. lapucelle Jul 2017 #51

Good. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Jul 2017 #154

Nothing spurs turnout like saying the midterms are unimportant DefenseLawyer Jul 2017 #60

The word "unimportant" was appropriate since she was referring to being Speaker George II Jul 2017 #88

Any word can sound bad out of context BainsBane Jul 2017 #122

Yeah that's what I'll do. DefenseLawyer Jul 2017 #186

Podesta emails discussing pizza were turned into Pizzagate. betsuni Jul 2017 #187

I disagree. Saying it is unimportant if she is elected speaker is fine. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #198

What Nancy Pelosi didn't say. betsuni Jul 2017 #71

Love you! sheshe2 Jul 2017 #77

Love you too! betsuni Jul 2017 #82

Will you run for speaker? California_Republic Jul 2017 #83

She is moderating her language... cynatnite Jul 2017 #89

In other news Barack Obama says healthcare is unimportant Bradshaw3 Jul 2017 #90

I'm pretty sure she's of sound mind still Bradical79 Jul 2017 #92

The Hill deliberately misrepresented her answer. She didn't say that winning the House pnwmom Jul 2017 #141

This is the problem with Twitter Caliman73 Jul 2017 #107

So everything clear now?? JHan Jul 2017 #156

Apparently, correcting an incorrect news story is "bullying." betsuni Jul 2017 #162

nah Laurence Tribe gave the interview so he knows best... JHan Jul 2017 #166

lol, so true! R B Garr Jul 2017 #171

The several hundred comments on the tweet sort of explain why Ninsianna Jul 2017 #159

Excellent post. Like some elected official is actually R B Garr Jul 2017 #172

It's weird that some people here seem to be enjoying the deliberate distortion, Ninsianna Jul 2017 #173

Agreed, I hear you. I bet some of the rolling mockery R B Garr Jul 2017 #175

Really? Awfully active so late at night, but I guess it's a workday somewhere on the globe. Ninsianna Jul 2017 #176

Nicely said! n/t Chevy Jul 2017 #185

People should stop taking her statements wildly out of context. Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #178

Some people seem to be rather amused by their little game of hiding behind Ninsianna Jul 2017 #179

Good post. cwydro Jul 2017 #183

Now that is a great response. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #208

#fakenews. stonecutter357 Jul 2017 #182

A wordsmith manipulating words. JNelson6563 Jul 2017 #188

Did you read the article? She is talking about whether she is speaker or not...Gosh some never Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #189

I don't know which is worse GaryCnf Jul 2017 #199

Transparent. nt. Weekend Warrior Jul 2017 #200

It's long past time that she is replaced Renew Deal Jul 2017 #202

She better clarify what she meant ASAP before this gets out of control leon8822 Jul 2017 #211

There is nothing to clarify. What she was referring to what was unimportant was whether she still_one Jul 2017 #215

Taken out of context. TooStrong Jul 2017 #214

Tribe apologized to Pelosi and deleted his tweet. spooky3 Jul 2017 #217

Edited OP. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #218

See: George II Jul 2017 #219

Quit harrassing me mister. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #220

Tweet/apology from Lawrence Tribe: George II Aug 2017 #221