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JHan

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71. yes, Damned if we do , damned if we don't.

Mon Jul 31, 2017, 10:33 PM

Jul 2017

Your experience shows this. So many women have experienced sexual trauma , sexual harassment , regardless of their age, what they were wearing , where they were...

In another reply in this thread I pointed to the harm of placing victims in categories - those who supposedly invite rape and harassment and those who don't. Violent male behavior is so normalized it sometimes morphs rape into violence where the rapist only faces the full brunt of moral condemnation once certain conditions are met. Society expresses selective outrage depending on who the victim is and the circumstances of their rape.

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Womans Brilliant Analogy Sums Up The Insidiousness Of Victim Blaming [View all] sheshe2 Jul 2017 OP

I saw that on FB this morning... Liberal Jesus Freak Jul 2017 #1

Yes, so simple. sheshe2 Jul 2017 #3

Well said! GeoWilliam750 Jul 2017 #2

Yes it was! sheshe2 Jul 2017 #4

I am curious what people who write these kinds of things are looking for Egnever Jul 2017 #5

They want to wake up the enablers lostnfound Jul 2017 #6

Does this extend to defense lawyers as well? Major Nikon Jul 2017 #12

Never break kayfabe. AngryAmish Jul 2017 #52

Thank you Pacifist Patriot Jul 2017 #54

To answer just your first question, PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2017 #7

I don't think there is any question who the problem is when it comes to rape Egnever Jul 2017 #9

Keep in mind it has NOTHING to do with how she's dressed. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2017 #37

I will say this Egnever Jul 2017 #42

:) Let's repeat, you AGREE with the OP but are responding Hortensis Jul 2017 #55

women, girls heaven05 Jul 2017 #63

thank you sheshe2 Jul 2017 #64

Rape has nothing to do with sexual attraction. yardwork Jul 2017 #65

Thank you. cwydro Jul 2017 #67

Think of this as an opportunity to educate. yardwork Jul 2017 #69

Well done, I thank you, Poindexter. sheshe2 Jul 2017 #26

"What is the end game here? sheshe2 Jul 2017 #11

Sorry but no Egnever Jul 2017 #13

Power as defined by what? ck4829 Jul 2017 #50

Are you fucking kidding me? ismnotwasm Jul 2017 #58

You said it yourself: it's about POWER. NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #59

Why does there need to be an 'end game' at all? ck4829 Jul 2017 #49

she made her point perfectly clear. niyad Jul 2017 #60

That's because it has nothing to do with what someone is wearing ProudLib72 Jul 2017 #8

Oh I disagree entirely Egnever Jul 2017 #10

What provolks them when they rape an eighty year old woman? sheshe2 Jul 2017 #14

No way of knowing that Egnever Jul 2017 #16

So. sheshe2 Jul 2017 #21

No I suggest Egnever Jul 2017 #32

The trope of blaming the victim and thinking it is your ally is truly delusional ck4829 Jul 2017 #51

Oh. "Asking for it" ismnotwasm Jul 2017 #61

This is poor ethics, you are advocating a position that conservative clothing reduces rape.. JHan Jul 2017 #15

No Egnever Jul 2017 #17

"I am arguing that provocative clothing is in fact provocative"... JHan Jul 2017 #18

Did you even read the link? Egnever Jul 2017 #19

You didn't read it did you.. look at the excerpt I highlighted. JHan Jul 2017 #20

We are equally raped under the law! The poster said so. sheshe2 Jul 2017 #24

Honestly I hadn't read it fully Egnever Jul 2017 #27

I think the analogy works: the dog responds that way because it is socialized to do so.. JHan Jul 2017 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author chowder66 Jul 2017 #70

yes, Damned if we do , damned if we don't. JHan Jul 2017 #71

There shouldn't be any categories on the victims however chowder66 Jul 2017 #72

Yes... JHan Jul 2017 #73

Hmmm. You said... sheshe2 Jul 2017 #22

Just once it would be great to have an exchange with you Egnever Jul 2017 #29

From you...admitting you never read the whole article. sheshe2 Jul 2017 #35

Why did you do this? melman Jul 2017 #33

Read all. Including the article that they say they did not read. sheshe2 Jul 2017 #43

WTF? "provocative clothing is in fact provocative." hunter Jul 2017 #23

Those who don't want to have their cars stolen should drive crappy cars. lapucelle Jul 2017 #25

I think you are right Egnever Jul 2017 #28

Thanks, hunter. sheshe2 Jul 2017 #30

Women wearing nun's habits, full battle gear and burkas are raped sarge43 Jul 2017 #62

So Basically When It Gets Down To It Me. Jul 2017 #34

Boom! sheshe2 Jul 2017 #36

And It Goes Without Saying That Rape Occurs In Saudi Arabia Me. Jul 2017 #40

Yes, sheshe2 Jul 2017 #41

Hookers and strippers are dressing for the job they're doing. Lyricalinklines Jul 2017 #44

I am in no way saying it is an excuse for the rapist Egnever Jul 2017 #45

You are mistaken. Sexual attraction doesn't lead to rape. yardwork Jul 2017 #66

Omg. cwydro Jul 2017 #68

"She was asking for it. Look at what she was wearing." lapucelle Jul 2017 #31

Your link. sheshe2 Jul 2017 #39

Great. I do not like to hear "Rape is God's Will", no it is not, it is a decision by Thinkingabout Jul 2017 #56

You are absolutely right, Thinkingabout. sheshe2 Jul 2017 #57

Thank you! sheshe2 Jul 2017 #46

K&R Gothmog Jul 2017 #38

K&R ck4829 Jul 2017 #48

Bravo! And bravo again! Girard442 Jul 2017 #53