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BainsBane

(57,299 posts)
6. From the broad-brush nature of your claims
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 12:05 AM
Aug 2017

I'm going to guess that you decided they are moderates with "a weak slate of values" irrespective of actual information on their positions.

I have seen that happen a lot lately. For example, we are now being told that Kamala Harris is a protector of big banks, with absolutely no elaboration on why they think that.

Meanwhile, we are told the party must purge leaders like Pelosi and Jim Clyburn because they are supposedly bad for the "brand." We are told banishing those leaders and abandoning support for civil rights and women's rights is necessary to win, with absolutely no evidence as to why that should be so.

I have yet to encounter a single person who insisted Clinton's platform wasn't progressive enough who informed themselves on what she was running on. They not only repeatedly make claims that are directly contradicted by the issue positions on her website and what she talked about at campaign events, but even now they refuse to read the site to correct their misunderstanding. Her "slate of values" were weak because of who she is, not based on policy proposals.

Since then, we saw Schumer attacked for coming out in support of issues the progressive critics had supported until last Monday. I myself have been met with insults for telling some of those people I agreed with them on a whole list of issues they proclaimed were litmus tests for being a progressive. I learned that nothing pisses them off more than agreement on issues because, it seems, it undercuts their claims of superiority. Policy and issues appear to matter far less than being one of them.

So considering the complete absence on any mention of particular issues in your post, I have to wonder if this condemnation of candidates being less than progressive is based not on issues but who they are--not the right sort of people.

If your concern is money countering the DCCC, that shouldn't be a problem, given the low funding that organization and the comparatively high incomes of "progressives." Besides, I remember being told that money doesn't win elections and that true progressives raised money entirely through small donations. So raise away. Why would you want to contaminate the righteous with DCCC funding?

Suburbs tend to be more affluent. If they are as full of progressives as you claim, fundraising for a glossy mailer shouldn't present a challenge.

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IOW, progressives aren't the ones who are going to blow it, it's the DCCC Warpy Jul 2017 #1
You got it! rainy Jul 2017 #2
the DCCC is just going to do what they do. stevebreeze Jul 2017 #4
'WEak Slate Of Values' Me. Jul 2017 #3
Words matter, self labels mater. It is not just semantics! NotMyFuhrer Aug 2017 #38
Make America America Again! Me. Aug 2017 #41
Let me correct your scenario just a bit GulfCoast66 Jul 2017 #5
Nailed it- thank you. bettyellen Aug 2017 #7
+1 (LOL this is perfect) betsuni Aug 2017 #9
You did nail it, murielm99 Aug 2017 #11
" not at all comfortable with the socialist label.." Doremus Aug 2017 #13
I don't know... GulfCoast66 Aug 2017 #14
In my experience, the only people who call progressives "socialists" Doremus Aug 2017 #25
That is not my experience. GulfCoast66 Aug 2017 #26
Hmmmm....where else have I heard that Socialism is evil, progressives are elitist, Doremus Aug 2017 #33
Yeah dude, seriously GulfCoast66 Aug 2017 #35
Answers my question. Thanks for clarifying. Doremus Aug 2017 #36
Have a great day GulfCoast66 Aug 2017 #39
Perfect--the shallowness of it all is very evident. nt R B Garr Aug 2017 #21
Sad but true. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #23
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2017 #31
+1 n/t FSogol Aug 2017 #34
From the broad-brush nature of your claims BainsBane Aug 2017 #6
+1 betsuni Aug 2017 #10
Yep +++ JHan Aug 2017 #16
Bravo! NastyRiffraff Aug 2017 #17
+1 BannonsLiver Aug 2017 #18
The hard truth is a lot of progressives are just as easily manipulated as the deplorables Egnever Aug 2017 #27
+1 (Thank you.) NurseJackie Aug 2017 #24
While some of those arguments (e.g., abandoning civil rights) are absurd... Garrett78 Aug 2017 #30
If the goal is to not start from a place of compromise BainsBane Aug 2017 #32
More tiresome attacks on the Democratic Party Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #8
How about this? Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2017 #12
Apparently, it is... Wounded Bear Aug 2017 #15
Yes, apparently it is. BannonsLiver Aug 2017 #20
Here's how .. ananda Aug 2017 #19
Thankfully the real world isn't wrapped up into these neat and tidy little boxes. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #22
Would it be possible to set up a separate "we doomed!" discussion group? brooklynite Aug 2017 #28
It's the fault of everyone I don't like Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #29
... LexVegas Aug 2017 #37
Well, the nation isn't very progressive. Orsino Aug 2017 #40
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