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154. Bernie himself doesn't identify as a Democrat, much less a part of the base.

Tue Aug 1, 2017, 02:13 AM

Aug 2017

That's why he's returned to being an Independent. An Independent by definition isn't part of the Democratic party base.

Tom Perez, for example, is part of the party's base, but Independent Bernie isn't.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/329418-sanders-i-do-not-consider-myself-a-democrat

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said Tuesday night that he still does not consider himself a Democrat despite taking part in a Democratic National Committee (DNC) unity tour with the party's new chairman, Tom Perez.

"No, I'm an Independent," Sanders said when asked by MSNBC's Chris Hayes whether he now identifies as a Democrat.

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Some establishment Democrats have criticized Sanders for not joining the party, while he has tried to assert his influence on it. But progressives have argued that the Democratic Party needs independents to expand and should open its arms to those new voters who may not fully identify with the party.

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Why?????????? Damn!!!! [View all] boston bean Jul 2017 OP

And me also. guillaumeb Jul 2017 #1

Exactly! elleng Jul 2017 #5

Post removed Post removed Jul 2017 #40

Bingo! NurseJackie Jul 2017 #53

Are you saying Kamala Harris doesn't smoke weed either? aikoaiko Jul 2017 #56

A lot of "experts" about Kamala Harris in midtown manhattan, all of a sudden. Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #98

Few would even know Harris was considering running BainsBane Aug 2017 #175

Given that it's August of 2017, it's all silly season. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #177

They feel oppressed BainsBane Aug 2017 #184

please.... heaven05 Aug 2017 #271

I was just teasing. aikoaiko Aug 2017 #324

in these times heaven05 Aug 2017 #331

Oh, that would be Obama the pot smoker. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #81

drop it, man, there's hippies to punch! Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #99

Oh, are we going after pot smokers, now? Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #97

come at me bro! yuiyoshida Aug 2017 #277

+ 1 Perfecto lunasun Aug 2017 #301

Are you prejudiced against pot-smoking progressives? guillaumeb Jul 2017 #108

So.. would you say that any Democrat who supports legalization is too "fringe" to be in leadership? Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #111

I think she's great! Tough and smart, which is what we need. GreenPartyVoter Jul 2017 #2

I'm sorry, but how damn stupid are they? Idiots. Squinch Jul 2017 #3

How useful to characterize as a 'Bernieland' problem. elleng Jul 2017 #4

Well,,, Eko Jul 2017 #9

Excellent point Ellen.... Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #38

You and me, Doc, PLUS elleng Jul 2017 #88

lol lol as if that is the only thing Chevy Jul 2017 #112

Until Citizens v. United is overturned, being able to fundraise will continue to be critical. n/t pnwmom Aug 2017 #151

ABSOLUTELY! elleng Aug 2017 #213

That's not true. Agschmid Aug 2017 #303

The primary campaign did NOT prove that fundraising isn't critical. pnwmom Aug 2017 #307

Okay... but money doesn't win. Trump & Sanders proved it. Agschmid Aug 2017 #326

I don't see figures comparing how much Hillary and Bernie raised in here. pnwmom Aug 2017 #334

She didn't win the electoral college and that's what matters. Agschmid Aug 2017 #335

We don't know and will never know how much the DT team spent, including ALL his outside sources. pnwmom Aug 2017 #336

But we do know, and most/a lot of it was reported. Agschmid Aug 2017 #337

This is the really funny part. Eko Jul 2017 #6

I wonder how some of these democrats who complain about money in politics leon8822 Jul 2017 #12

They don't want democrats to win JI7 Jul 2017 #25

Bingo! We have a winner! leftofcool Jul 2017 #42

Ding! Ding! Ding! The Democratic Party has been infiltrated by BOB'ers, who have an agenda... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2017 #50

Anything to damage potential Sanders opponents for the nomination brush Aug 2017 #302

BAM!! HEAD SHOT! yuiyoshida Aug 2017 #278

This. Is. Correct. moda253 Aug 2017 #280

Thing is Konst is not a democrat. JHan Jul 2017 #43

Democrats spent more than trump. There is a way if we let go of 2016 and focus on future. snowy owl Aug 2017 #164

Yes, you can save money if you can get a hostile foreign power to hack the election for you Orrex Aug 2017 #204

Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #221

You say "still no evidence of Russian influence"? FFS. Go peddle Trump's lie somewhere else. emulatorloo Aug 2017 #227

The Mercers, Bannon, and Cambridge Anylitica Cary Aug 2017 #257

Let go of the GE BainsBane Aug 2017 #237

Nomiki had a brief stint on Sirius XM Progress. Caliman73 Jul 2017 #96

+++ sheshe2 Aug 2017 #131

Appears to have a serious issue with Harris. Weekend Warrior Jul 2017 #7

That person sounds like such an omg simpleton, yikes! R B Garr Jul 2017 #19

Now you know why they have such hatred for people, particularly women, Ninsianna Jul 2017 #24

Yep, for sure. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #31

+1 R B Garr Jul 2017 #71

Oh dear, I seem to have been blocked by her. Ninsianna Jul 2017 #23

Oh, she's one of those assholes BainsBane Aug 2017 #249

Address income inequality Phoenix61 Jul 2017 #8

It means economic justice. missingthebigdog Jul 2017 #14

That sounds like what happened in 2016 to you know who. brush Jul 2017 #60

Why can't we find a candidate HarmonyRockets Jul 2017 #68

A real life example? missingthebigdog Jul 2017 #93

I've never met one HarmonyRockets Aug 2017 #195

I've met many, mostly online, but I've run into a few in real life who Ninsianna Aug 2017 #197

No. Sorry. Disagree. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #133

It means rich people paying their fair share alarimer Jul 2017 #118

Well... Caliman73 Aug 2017 #153

Actually you can legislate salaries by taxing the hell out of them. snowy owl Aug 2017 #162

I think the Mnuchin issue is disturbing TexasBushwhacker Jul 2017 #10

Then there's this: R B Garr Jul 2017 #17

Harris is a strong, BLACK FEMALE , so expect tremendous push back by that group. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #35

That's what it's looking like. The shallowness of those R B Garr Jul 2017 #70

No link? sheshe2 Aug 2017 #134

It's from the article linked in the OP n/t TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #207

Campaign donations are the new emails. One small donation three years later likely bettyellen Aug 2017 #338

Better yet the democrats will not win unless they address voter suppression and this Russia scandle leon8822 Jul 2017 #11

Izzat what Russia wants 'em to think? How many Democratic hopefuls will they be convinced to reject? FreepFryer Jul 2017 #13

Don't they know it's bash Pelosi week? mcar Jul 2017 #15

lmao JHan Jul 2017 #44

Why? She's a woman. lunamagica Jul 2017 #16

It's pretty absurd alleging that Bernie supporters hate women Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #123

lol, I didn't bash any Democratic public figure, and I didn't even mention the primary lunamagica Aug 2017 #127

You implied that all Bernie supporters are misogynists. Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #132

I implied that all Bernie supporters are misoginists? Where? And I used the word Democrat because lunamagica Aug 2017 #138

"Why? She's a woman." Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #141

Nope. Again, you are projecting lunamagica Aug 2017 #160

I agree with the squirrel. Why keep the bitterness alive? snowy owl Aug 2017 #163

The Owl is wise. Beartracks Aug 2017 #309

the is, in this thread heaven05 Aug 2017 #333

Ignore them. Maven Jul 2017 #18

Nomiki konst is a rotten piece of shit JI7 Jul 2017 #20

This Bleacher Creature Jul 2017 #29

I notice all these stories do often have her JI7 Jul 2017 #32

Yep, and TYTs (i.e., Cenk) Bleacher Creature Jul 2017 #69

I stop paying attention the TYT a long time ago Gothmog Jul 2017 #30

She's one of a million reasons I've stopped watching TYT. JHan Jul 2017 #45

This. nt Maven Jul 2017 #91

This +100000000 n/t Chevy Jul 2017 #102

I've been noticing a lot of negatives coming out about the Dem party and liberals. Iliyah Jul 2017 #21

Note where the attacks are coming from, and remember how they worked to Ninsianna Jul 2017 #26

The people attacking her are not solid progressives, they're not even Dems. Ninsianna Jul 2017 #22

I saw some threads attacking Senator Harris on the JPR website Gothmog Jul 2017 #28

Not just on that website, as we both know. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #36

You can get all of the good anti-democratic hate talking points on JPR Gothmog Jul 2017 #64

JPR, yeah that one too, but anti democratic party talking points are on one other I am thinking Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #67

Indeed think I know what one to you speak of n/t Chevy Jul 2017 #106

Amen....and this attack on Harris is just too convenient Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #46

How dare a woman consider running for POTUS Gothmog Jul 2017 #63

Well they did put aside their women hate to support Stein! ;-) Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #90

But they never bothered to actually get to know anything about her. Ninsianna Jul 2017 #114

Honestly, they didn't care.... Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #117

Ain't it though? Ninsianna Jul 2017 #119

That's the damn truth!!! Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #121

They're not adept at hiding what they are. Ninsianna Jul 2017 #48

I try to check this website out a couple of times a week to see that the non-democrats are doing Gothmog Jul 2017 #62

Senator Harris is a good democrat and the concept that anyone has issues with her is offensive Gothmog Jul 2017 #27

They have issues with her for one of the same reasons with Hillary. The obvious one. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #37

Misogyny isn't negated by one's gender. Ninsianna Jul 2017 #49

I said partly, because you are correct. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #52

And why they have issues with Pelosi mcar Jul 2017 #104

I guess if she's perfect we'll be set no matter what some people think. aikoaiko Jul 2017 #73

Thanks. I couldn't think of an appropriate response. You nailed it. snowy owl Aug 2017 #166

easier win heaven05 Aug 2017 #272

Yes, some people trying to "think" and failing to do so becuase someone fed them Ninsianna Aug 2017 #322

I'm really liking Harris and will get behind her run 100% ismnotwasm Jul 2017 #33

Oh for Chrissakes, them again? NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #34

Funny you use the term "bros" HarmonyRockets Jul 2017 #72

The bros are who they are ismnotwasm Jul 2017 #76

How is this a statistical anomaly? HarmonyRockets Jul 2017 #77

I'm using their term NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #92

The term is not a gender specific thing, it refers to the behavior that both Wong Ninsianna Jul 2017 #109

And what kind of behavior is that? HarmonyRockets Aug 2017 #193

Fratboy level of misogyny and aggression, using Right Wing talking points. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #196

Intelligent thinking. Thanks. snowy owl Aug 2017 #168

Quite the opposite. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #299

Great post Gothmog Aug 2017 #128

Because Democrats on the internet will believe anything. It's divide and conquer. Don't fall for it. Iggo Jul 2017 #39

Wait the alt left bros don't like Harris? BannonsLiver Jul 2017 #41

There is no alt-left. These alt-left bros are alt-right bros, and not to be taken seriously. Iggo Jul 2017 #47

Because they want Democrats to fail nini Jul 2017 #51

Nailed it. (Are you as tired of this shit as I am?) NurseJackie Jul 2017 #55

absolutely nini Jul 2017 #100

National Nurses United RoseAnn DeMoro--Shes not on our radar. riversedge Jul 2017 #54

The alt left will despise Kamala Harris for what she has in common with Barack Obama, and I'll leave Tarheel_Dem Jul 2017 #57

Yeah HarmonyRockets Jul 2017 #74

The people who are trying to take down Kamala and Nancy Pelosi don't give a shit about "the issues". Tarheel_Dem Jul 2017 #82

So you think there is some sort of conspiracy HarmonyRockets Jul 2017 #85

The alt left and the alt right have one thing in common. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2017 #87

Also what she has in common with Hillary Clinton lunamagica Aug 2017 #124

You're right. I stand corrected. There are two (2) things. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2017 #169

I will second that! mfcorey1 Aug 2017 #330

I need to learn more about Harris. aikoaiko Jul 2017 #58

She supported freezing assets on some cases, not confiscation. bettyellen Aug 2017 #130

Howard in the early 80's weed was frowned on JustAnotherGen Aug 2017 #243

They're still tying to do the Russian and GOP work of splitting Democrats rockfordfile Jul 2017 #59

who would benefit from these attacks on the most prominent Democrats geek tragedy Jul 2017 #61

Divisiveness is just divisiveness. Sour grapes are R B Garr Jul 2017 #65

Go check out the JPR site and you do not have to guess Gothmog Jul 2017 #66

What does the TYT have anything to do with this? HarmonyRockets Jul 2017 #75

You best watch the dumb comments Chevy Jul 2017 #110

"The Young Turks Network Raises $4 Million From Former Republican Presidential Candidate" emulatorloo Aug 2017 #228

Well, there is the fact that right wingers are giving them money, making them Ninsianna Aug 2017 #289

Kamala is strong Bladewire Jul 2017 #78

Harris is fantastic. Period. broadcaster90210 Jul 2017 #79

Russian disinformation to plant and grow instability everywhere in US politics? Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #80

Mic.com ?? C_U_L8R Jul 2017 #83

I am not interested in any criticism of any solid potential candidate. Shrike47 Jul 2017 #84

Same shit they did to Hillary. iluvtennis Jul 2017 #86

Really, who has ever even heard of Konst? grantcart Jul 2017 #89

Ummmm boston bean Jul 2017 #94

And before today who has ever heard of this person? Just suggesting that we don't have to grantcart Jul 2017 #103

Why not? Sunshine is the best disinfectant and all. MrsCoffee Jul 2017 #116

because the person has no standing, doesn't represent anyone and is grantcart Aug 2017 #210

The party is attacked daily from those who are supposedly unifiers. MrsCoffee Aug 2017 #212

Actually these are low life self promoters and all you are doing is fulfilling their wishes grantcart Aug 2017 #217

Well if the Chevy Jul 2017 #107

"Nomiki Konst, . . . who serves on the Democratic National Committees Unity Commission" rogue emissary Jul 2017 #95

There is no Unity Commission and there is no Unity Tour. MrsCoffee Jul 2017 #113

there are a lot of people trying their best to keep us from unifying. rogue emissary Jul 2017 #115

So true. What right does she have to analyze the candidate and form an opinion. snowy owl Aug 2017 #172

Did you really mean to reply to my post like this? rogue emissary Aug 2017 #230

I've been a fan of Kamala Harris since her days in SF. Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #101

So why do you think the "Our Revolution" cabal have it out for her then? stevenleser Aug 2017 #202

I think talk of a "cabal" is perhaps much ado about little, if not nothing. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #206

She is a solid progressive who is also minority and female. Those are the groups pnwmom Jul 2017 #105

I am the party's base Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #125

The base comprises steady, reliable Democratic voters. If that describes you, pnwmom Aug 2017 #129

Claiming that Bernie supporters are not the party's base is a divisive group attack Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #136

Nice try but she did not violate ToS. JHan Aug 2017 #137

Yes she did, and feel free to explain your position Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #139

I didn't say they were fake Democrats. And I said that you yourself might be part of the base, pnwmom Aug 2017 #142

You didn't need to use the words to imply it. Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #145

It would be interesting to see a comparison of.tneir rhetoric to Clinton Cash Cary Aug 2017 #256

She typed clear english, JHan Aug 2017 #143

She very clearly said "They are the party's base -- not the Bernie people." Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #147

So you define yourself as a Bernie person first and a democrat second? JHan Aug 2017 #149

I said that if you are a reliable Democrat, then you are part of the base. pnwmom Aug 2017 #150

You don't get to broad-brush Bernie supporters and then make an exception for me. Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #152

Bernie himself doesn't identify as a Democrat, much less a part of the base. pnwmom Aug 2017 #154

Bernie can be an independent without all his followers being independent Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #156

I gave you the definition of "base." We know that Bernie's aim was to expand voting in the party. pnwmom Aug 2017 #140

Nice try, but no. Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #144

I attended a caucus, and I know that many of the attendees were first-timers, pnwmom Aug 2017 #148

The caucus was on a Saturday. Most do not work Saturdays. Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #155

Caucuses attract many people who are passionate about their choice -- but that isn't pnwmom Aug 2017 #158

I'm not going to let my original point be diverted into an argument about caucuses. Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #165

"I and several hundred of my friends were driven from this website by you and people like you." betsuni Aug 2017 #170

Hilarious Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #178

"Privileges. Which we deserve." betsuni Aug 2017 #186

If the :rofl: emoticon is all you have Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #189

Yes, that emoticon is all I have. betsuni Aug 2017 #194

"... word equality" NurseJackie Aug 2017 #247

LOL n/t FSogol Aug 2017 #293

If party affiliation isn't important to a voter, if a voter only chooses based on policies, pnwmom Aug 2017 #173

Party affiliation is based on policies Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #182

You can keep on posting this wiki link from now until eternity melman Aug 2017 #190

"I believe he will run again for the Democratic nomination". Tarheel_Dem Aug 2017 #188

Dead serious. nt Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #191

And that worked out so well for us in '16, you think "Democrats" will be begging for another heaping Tarheel_Dem Aug 2017 #192

Sure, I remember Ralph Nader. Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #218

the 2016 primary is another dead horse BainsBane Aug 2017 #232

I'm more interested in the 2020 primary Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #259

No one drove you from the site BainsBane Aug 2017 #234

Excellent advice. (And, GREAT FIND with the unedited post.) NurseJackie Aug 2017 #238

Stay tuned. BainsBane Aug 2017 #240

Great find? It's only in my journal for all to see. nt Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #260

For those who bother to check. But how likely is that? NurseJackie Aug 2017 #267

WOW Gothmog Aug 2017 #250

Spectacular! ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #253

Thanks Bains. Amazing reply still_one Aug 2017 #254

You sure brought your receipts.. well done. JHan Aug 2017 #255

I love your cat gif!!!!! sheshe2 Aug 2017 #283

You're trying to imply that I edited out a part Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #258

"Hillary will never get my vote" BainsBane Aug 2017 #263

+1 Jamaal510 Aug 2017 #264

+1 betsuni Aug 2017 #265

That's gonna leave a mark! mcar Aug 2017 #268

Wow. Exposed. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #273

Bingo. George II Aug 2017 #274

Thank you for exposing these people. We really are looking at 40 years Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #275

+1 sheshe2 Aug 2017 #284

Thaks for posting this Gothmog Aug 2017 #285

++ infinity ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #287

You just linked to a post written by someone else, not me. Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #288

cool story bro. JHan Aug 2017 #291

You signed the pledge: "I will never vote for Hillary" BainsBane Aug 2017 #292

It's a post, not a pledge. Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #294

Three opportunities to correct the record BainsBane Aug 2017 #296

Please link to where I violated DU's TOS. Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #297

You have admitted you did not vote for Clinton. BainsBane Aug 2017 #310

lol Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #311

These Operation Counteroffensive posts accusing everyone of TOS violations are funny. betsuni Aug 2017 #312

I find all the "put up or shut up" posts hilarious, given how much has been put up Ninsianna Aug 2017 #315

I'd slink back to JPR where I'd be free to "speak as I see fit about corporate Dems and Third Way" betsuni Aug 2017 #316

It's the Trumpkin mentality, they keep seeing losing badly and getting their Ninsianna Aug 2017 #318

Outstanding! brer cat Aug 2017 #308

I'm speechless. Wow. Great post The Polack MSgt Aug 2017 #325

I suppose if a woman were harassed at work, you'd say she chose to leave? Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #261

Yes, we have seen the PM that explained your reason for returning, Ninsianna Aug 2017 #290

Put up or shut up. Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #295

Premptive strikes are not defensive, they are offensive. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #298

Guess you're not gonna put up. nt Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #304

What exactly are you demanding I put up? Ninsianna Aug 2017 #314

you put up heaven05 Aug 2017 #332

BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! heaven05 Aug 2017 #269

Anti democratic party no good fucking ASSHOLES want to invade DU again and help Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #276

Amen! NurseJackie Aug 2017 #281

Thank you! SharonClark Aug 2017 #286

OH SNAP!! bettyellen Aug 2017 #339

You know what I believe? JustAnotherGen Aug 2017 #246

Agreed Gothmog Aug 2017 #252

This message was self-deleted by its author Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #262

+1 betsuni Aug 2017 #266

hmmmmmph heaven05 Aug 2017 #270

Lots of the working poor BainsBane Aug 2017 #242

The Nebraska caucus accepted mail in ballots Omaha Steve Aug 2017 #200

What a sad conversation. Sophomoric and semantics-driven. snowy owl Aug 2017 #183

Voting Democratic BainsBane Aug 2017 #233

Agreed, that's what these returning disruptive forces have been saying, after they Ninsianna Aug 2017 #319

You were very clear. ++++ JHan Aug 2017 #146

You were certainly not disavowed... but I do see the allure in hanging from a cross LanternWaste Aug 2017 #211

Well said n/t emulatorloo Aug 2017 #229

I am the party's base, as are the 16 million plus Americans who Ninsianna Aug 2017 #321

It's a bit early to have a anointed one already. alarimer Jul 2017 #120

Who said she was anointed? BannonsLiver Jul 2017 #122

Who anointed her? BainsBane Aug 2017 #167

Well said! mcar Aug 2017 #214

+1 BeyondGeography Aug 2017 #180

That might be the stupidest post I've ever read. yardwork Aug 2017 #201

That's because it's recycled 2016 campaign rhetoric that doesn't apply here. stevenleser Aug 2017 #203

Agreed, but people really think that he'll be allowed to run as a Dem Ninsianna Aug 2017 #317

If you ever visited Wall Street you are dead to BernieBots. Hamlette Aug 2017 #126

They have their heart set on Tulsi... radical noodle Aug 2017 #135

... BainsBane Aug 2017 #159

It is too early to have your heart set on anyone. riversedge Aug 2017 #205

Agree totally radical noodle Aug 2017 #216

Income inequality? BainsBane Aug 2017 #157

This "anointed" business really gets my goat, which is of course why they do it. betsuni Aug 2017 #161

It's incredible BainsBane Aug 2017 #171

I think she got the national attention organically, on her own. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #174

I can only say how I heard of her as a potential candidate. BainsBane Aug 2017 #176

Her questioning of Sessions was truly a thing of beauty. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #181

Yes, I watched it at the time BainsBane Aug 2017 #185

a yup. boston bean Aug 2017 #208

she has already earned my support AlexSFCA Aug 2017 #179

Pragmatic. You think that is the quality Americans are looking for? snowy owl Aug 2017 #187

After the disaster of DT, Americans will probably be very happy to have pnwmom Aug 2017 #198

Well said. lpbk2713 Aug 2017 #199

People voted against pragmatism 2016. Outsiders turned on electorate. snowy owl Aug 2017 #222

And look how well that turned out. But, no, they actually did not. The election was stolen. pnwmom Aug 2017 #224

People voted against pragmatism 2016. Outsiders turned on electorate. snowy owl Aug 2017 #223

There is already a major backlash to that vote. 2.9 million more chose Hillary, and the number pnwmom Aug 2017 #225

This is stupid. Plenty of Sanders supporters supported Harris. David__77 Aug 2017 #209

I don't understand this rhetoric either. Politics used to be about issues. snowy owl Aug 2017 #219

No - we aren't JustAnotherGen Aug 2017 #244

The root of the problem is that she can't physically become Bernie Sanders. SaschaHM Aug 2017 #215

??????? It's me but I dont understand your post. snowy owl Aug 2017 #220

So looking at a prospective candidate kcdoug1 Aug 2017 #226

She isn't a Candidate JustAnotherGen Aug 2017 #245

Wonder how many progressives are in bed with Wall St delisen Aug 2017 #231

Or spending hundreds of billions BainsBane Aug 2017 #235

She's so right! Also: they need to change their underwear every hour, and wear it on the outside ucrdem Aug 2017 #236

All I know is when we fight amongst ourselves and split the vote we get Trump. Vinca Aug 2017 #239

That seems to be the goal for these disruptive forces. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #323

She's not running for anything JustAnotherGen Aug 2017 #241

and thereby strengthen the GOP congress BainsBane Aug 2017 #248

It's important for the Right Wing Turbineguy Aug 2017 #251

The far left and far right want to destroy the civic order. Dawson Leery Aug 2017 #279

... and the Democratic Party. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #282

because we are frustrated with the trend of big money influencing policy even on the left. Because JCanete Aug 2017 #300

I'm a big Sanders fan .. ananda Aug 2017 #305

Not a fan. pablo_marmol Aug 2017 #306

It pisses me off too, boston bean. But I'm sure it makes the GOP happy. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #313

O F F S - we've got to stop shooting ourselves in the feet. GoneOffShore Aug 2017 #320

FFS wryter2000 Aug 2017 #327

Why are you surprised? Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #328

It wasn't surprise it was exasperation. boston bean Aug 2017 #329