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Flying Squirrel

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165. I'm not going to let my original point be diverted into an argument about caucuses.

Tue Aug 1, 2017, 03:02 AM

Aug 2017

And I haven't even finished with your entire statement.

" (Minorities and females) are the groups who strongly supported Hillary. And they are the party's base -- not the Bernie people."

So if I'm not female or a minority, I'm not part of the party's base. And if I'm a Bernie person, I am by definition not female or a minority. (I'll tell that to my AA fiance.)

Enough is enough. I and several hundred of my friends were driven from this website by you and people like you. We stayed away, many of us for over a year, and let you have your way with the site. Now I'm back and I will fight your misrepresentation of Bernie and his supporters tooth and nail, because I believe he will run again for the Democratic nomination and I will not let DU continue to be a place where his supporters are maligned and not welcome. That would leave Bernie at a disadvantage. I'm looking forward, not backward, and as a long-time member of DU in good standing I and others like me deserve to be protected by the TOS, just like any other member.

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Why?????????? Damn!!!! [View all] boston bean Jul 2017 OP

And me also. guillaumeb Jul 2017 #1

Exactly! elleng Jul 2017 #5

Post removed Post removed Jul 2017 #40

Bingo! NurseJackie Jul 2017 #53

Are you saying Kamala Harris doesn't smoke weed either? aikoaiko Jul 2017 #56

A lot of "experts" about Kamala Harris in midtown manhattan, all of a sudden. Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #98

Few would even know Harris was considering running BainsBane Aug 2017 #175

Given that it's August of 2017, it's all silly season. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #177

They feel oppressed BainsBane Aug 2017 #184

please.... heaven05 Aug 2017 #271

I was just teasing. aikoaiko Aug 2017 #324

in these times heaven05 Aug 2017 #331

Oh, that would be Obama the pot smoker. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #81

drop it, man, there's hippies to punch! Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #99

Oh, are we going after pot smokers, now? Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #97

come at me bro! yuiyoshida Aug 2017 #277

+ 1 Perfecto lunasun Aug 2017 #301

Are you prejudiced against pot-smoking progressives? guillaumeb Jul 2017 #108

So.. would you say that any Democrat who supports legalization is too "fringe" to be in leadership? Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #111

I think she's great! Tough and smart, which is what we need. GreenPartyVoter Jul 2017 #2

I'm sorry, but how damn stupid are they? Idiots. Squinch Jul 2017 #3

How useful to characterize as a 'Bernieland' problem. elleng Jul 2017 #4

Well,,, Eko Jul 2017 #9

Excellent point Ellen.... Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #38

You and me, Doc, PLUS elleng Jul 2017 #88

lol lol as if that is the only thing Chevy Jul 2017 #112

Until Citizens v. United is overturned, being able to fundraise will continue to be critical. n/t pnwmom Aug 2017 #151

ABSOLUTELY! elleng Aug 2017 #213

That's not true. Agschmid Aug 2017 #303

The primary campaign did NOT prove that fundraising isn't critical. pnwmom Aug 2017 #307

Okay... but money doesn't win. Trump & Sanders proved it. Agschmid Aug 2017 #326

I don't see figures comparing how much Hillary and Bernie raised in here. pnwmom Aug 2017 #334

She didn't win the electoral college and that's what matters. Agschmid Aug 2017 #335

We don't know and will never know how much the DT team spent, including ALL his outside sources. pnwmom Aug 2017 #336

But we do know, and most/a lot of it was reported. Agschmid Aug 2017 #337

This is the really funny part. Eko Jul 2017 #6

I wonder how some of these democrats who complain about money in politics leon8822 Jul 2017 #12

They don't want democrats to win JI7 Jul 2017 #25

Bingo! We have a winner! leftofcool Jul 2017 #42

Ding! Ding! Ding! The Democratic Party has been infiltrated by BOB'ers, who have an agenda... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2017 #50

Anything to damage potential Sanders opponents for the nomination brush Aug 2017 #302

BAM!! HEAD SHOT! yuiyoshida Aug 2017 #278

This. Is. Correct. moda253 Aug 2017 #280

Thing is Konst is not a democrat. JHan Jul 2017 #43

Democrats spent more than trump. There is a way if we let go of 2016 and focus on future. snowy owl Aug 2017 #164

Yes, you can save money if you can get a hostile foreign power to hack the election for you Orrex Aug 2017 #204

Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #221

You say "still no evidence of Russian influence"? FFS. Go peddle Trump's lie somewhere else. emulatorloo Aug 2017 #227

The Mercers, Bannon, and Cambridge Anylitica Cary Aug 2017 #257

Let go of the GE BainsBane Aug 2017 #237

Nomiki had a brief stint on Sirius XM Progress. Caliman73 Jul 2017 #96

+++ sheshe2 Aug 2017 #131

Appears to have a serious issue with Harris. Weekend Warrior Jul 2017 #7

That person sounds like such an omg simpleton, yikes! R B Garr Jul 2017 #19

Now you know why they have such hatred for people, particularly women, Ninsianna Jul 2017 #24

Yep, for sure. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #31

+1 R B Garr Jul 2017 #71

Oh dear, I seem to have been blocked by her. Ninsianna Jul 2017 #23

Oh, she's one of those assholes BainsBane Aug 2017 #249

Address income inequality Phoenix61 Jul 2017 #8

It means economic justice. missingthebigdog Jul 2017 #14

That sounds like what happened in 2016 to you know who. brush Jul 2017 #60

Why can't we find a candidate HarmonyRockets Jul 2017 #68

A real life example? missingthebigdog Jul 2017 #93

I've never met one HarmonyRockets Aug 2017 #195

I've met many, mostly online, but I've run into a few in real life who Ninsianna Aug 2017 #197

No. Sorry. Disagree. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #133

It means rich people paying their fair share alarimer Jul 2017 #118

Well... Caliman73 Aug 2017 #153

Actually you can legislate salaries by taxing the hell out of them. snowy owl Aug 2017 #162

I think the Mnuchin issue is disturbing TexasBushwhacker Jul 2017 #10

Then there's this: R B Garr Jul 2017 #17

Harris is a strong, BLACK FEMALE , so expect tremendous push back by that group. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #35

That's what it's looking like. The shallowness of those R B Garr Jul 2017 #70

No link? sheshe2 Aug 2017 #134

It's from the article linked in the OP n/t TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #207

Campaign donations are the new emails. One small donation three years later likely bettyellen Aug 2017 #338

Better yet the democrats will not win unless they address voter suppression and this Russia scandle leon8822 Jul 2017 #11

Izzat what Russia wants 'em to think? How many Democratic hopefuls will they be convinced to reject? FreepFryer Jul 2017 #13

Don't they know it's bash Pelosi week? mcar Jul 2017 #15

lmao JHan Jul 2017 #44

Why? She's a woman. lunamagica Jul 2017 #16

It's pretty absurd alleging that Bernie supporters hate women Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #123

lol, I didn't bash any Democratic public figure, and I didn't even mention the primary lunamagica Aug 2017 #127

You implied that all Bernie supporters are misogynists. Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #132

I implied that all Bernie supporters are misoginists? Where? And I used the word Democrat because lunamagica Aug 2017 #138

"Why? She's a woman." Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #141

Nope. Again, you are projecting lunamagica Aug 2017 #160

I agree with the squirrel. Why keep the bitterness alive? snowy owl Aug 2017 #163

The Owl is wise. Beartracks Aug 2017 #309

the is, in this thread heaven05 Aug 2017 #333

Ignore them. Maven Jul 2017 #18

Nomiki konst is a rotten piece of shit JI7 Jul 2017 #20

This Bleacher Creature Jul 2017 #29

I notice all these stories do often have her JI7 Jul 2017 #32

Yep, and TYTs (i.e., Cenk) Bleacher Creature Jul 2017 #69

I stop paying attention the TYT a long time ago Gothmog Jul 2017 #30

She's one of a million reasons I've stopped watching TYT. JHan Jul 2017 #45

This. nt Maven Jul 2017 #91

This +100000000 n/t Chevy Jul 2017 #102

I've been noticing a lot of negatives coming out about the Dem party and liberals. Iliyah Jul 2017 #21

Note where the attacks are coming from, and remember how they worked to Ninsianna Jul 2017 #26

The people attacking her are not solid progressives, they're not even Dems. Ninsianna Jul 2017 #22

I saw some threads attacking Senator Harris on the JPR website Gothmog Jul 2017 #28

Not just on that website, as we both know. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #36

You can get all of the good anti-democratic hate talking points on JPR Gothmog Jul 2017 #64

JPR, yeah that one too, but anti democratic party talking points are on one other I am thinking Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #67

Indeed think I know what one to you speak of n/t Chevy Jul 2017 #106

Amen....and this attack on Harris is just too convenient Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #46

How dare a woman consider running for POTUS Gothmog Jul 2017 #63

Well they did put aside their women hate to support Stein! ;-) Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #90

But they never bothered to actually get to know anything about her. Ninsianna Jul 2017 #114

Honestly, they didn't care.... Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #117

Ain't it though? Ninsianna Jul 2017 #119

That's the damn truth!!! Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #121

They're not adept at hiding what they are. Ninsianna Jul 2017 #48

I try to check this website out a couple of times a week to see that the non-democrats are doing Gothmog Jul 2017 #62

Senator Harris is a good democrat and the concept that anyone has issues with her is offensive Gothmog Jul 2017 #27

They have issues with her for one of the same reasons with Hillary. The obvious one. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #37

Misogyny isn't negated by one's gender. Ninsianna Jul 2017 #49

I said partly, because you are correct. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #52

And why they have issues with Pelosi mcar Jul 2017 #104

I guess if she's perfect we'll be set no matter what some people think. aikoaiko Jul 2017 #73

Thanks. I couldn't think of an appropriate response. You nailed it. snowy owl Aug 2017 #166

easier win heaven05 Aug 2017 #272

Yes, some people trying to "think" and failing to do so becuase someone fed them Ninsianna Aug 2017 #322

I'm really liking Harris and will get behind her run 100% ismnotwasm Jul 2017 #33

Oh for Chrissakes, them again? NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #34

Funny you use the term "bros" HarmonyRockets Jul 2017 #72

The bros are who they are ismnotwasm Jul 2017 #76

How is this a statistical anomaly? HarmonyRockets Jul 2017 #77

I'm using their term NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #92

The term is not a gender specific thing, it refers to the behavior that both Wong Ninsianna Jul 2017 #109

And what kind of behavior is that? HarmonyRockets Aug 2017 #193

Fratboy level of misogyny and aggression, using Right Wing talking points. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #196

Intelligent thinking. Thanks. snowy owl Aug 2017 #168

Quite the opposite. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #299

Great post Gothmog Aug 2017 #128

Because Democrats on the internet will believe anything. It's divide and conquer. Don't fall for it. Iggo Jul 2017 #39

Wait the alt left bros don't like Harris? BannonsLiver Jul 2017 #41

There is no alt-left. These alt-left bros are alt-right bros, and not to be taken seriously. Iggo Jul 2017 #47

Because they want Democrats to fail nini Jul 2017 #51

Nailed it. (Are you as tired of this shit as I am?) NurseJackie Jul 2017 #55

absolutely nini Jul 2017 #100

National Nurses United RoseAnn DeMoro--Shes not on our radar. riversedge Jul 2017 #54

The alt left will despise Kamala Harris for what she has in common with Barack Obama, and I'll leave Tarheel_Dem Jul 2017 #57

Yeah HarmonyRockets Jul 2017 #74

The people who are trying to take down Kamala and Nancy Pelosi don't give a shit about "the issues". Tarheel_Dem Jul 2017 #82

So you think there is some sort of conspiracy HarmonyRockets Jul 2017 #85

The alt left and the alt right have one thing in common. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2017 #87

Also what she has in common with Hillary Clinton lunamagica Aug 2017 #124

You're right. I stand corrected. There are two (2) things. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2017 #169

I will second that! mfcorey1 Aug 2017 #330

I need to learn more about Harris. aikoaiko Jul 2017 #58

She supported freezing assets on some cases, not confiscation. bettyellen Aug 2017 #130

Howard in the early 80's weed was frowned on JustAnotherGen Aug 2017 #243

They're still tying to do the Russian and GOP work of splitting Democrats rockfordfile Jul 2017 #59

who would benefit from these attacks on the most prominent Democrats geek tragedy Jul 2017 #61

Divisiveness is just divisiveness. Sour grapes are R B Garr Jul 2017 #65

Go check out the JPR site and you do not have to guess Gothmog Jul 2017 #66

What does the TYT have anything to do with this? HarmonyRockets Jul 2017 #75

You best watch the dumb comments Chevy Jul 2017 #110

"The Young Turks Network Raises $4 Million From Former Republican Presidential Candidate" emulatorloo Aug 2017 #228

Well, there is the fact that right wingers are giving them money, making them Ninsianna Aug 2017 #289

Kamala is strong Bladewire Jul 2017 #78

Harris is fantastic. Period. broadcaster90210 Jul 2017 #79

Russian disinformation to plant and grow instability everywhere in US politics? Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #80

Mic.com ?? C_U_L8R Jul 2017 #83

I am not interested in any criticism of any solid potential candidate. Shrike47 Jul 2017 #84

Same shit they did to Hillary. iluvtennis Jul 2017 #86

Really, who has ever even heard of Konst? grantcart Jul 2017 #89

Ummmm boston bean Jul 2017 #94

And before today who has ever heard of this person? Just suggesting that we don't have to grantcart Jul 2017 #103

Why not? Sunshine is the best disinfectant and all. MrsCoffee Jul 2017 #116

because the person has no standing, doesn't represent anyone and is grantcart Aug 2017 #210

The party is attacked daily from those who are supposedly unifiers. MrsCoffee Aug 2017 #212

Actually these are low life self promoters and all you are doing is fulfilling their wishes grantcart Aug 2017 #217

Well if the Chevy Jul 2017 #107

"Nomiki Konst, . . . who serves on the Democratic National Committees Unity Commission" rogue emissary Jul 2017 #95

There is no Unity Commission and there is no Unity Tour. MrsCoffee Jul 2017 #113

there are a lot of people trying their best to keep us from unifying. rogue emissary Jul 2017 #115

So true. What right does she have to analyze the candidate and form an opinion. snowy owl Aug 2017 #172

Did you really mean to reply to my post like this? rogue emissary Aug 2017 #230

I've been a fan of Kamala Harris since her days in SF. Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #101

So why do you think the "Our Revolution" cabal have it out for her then? stevenleser Aug 2017 #202

I think talk of a "cabal" is perhaps much ado about little, if not nothing. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #206

She is a solid progressive who is also minority and female. Those are the groups pnwmom Jul 2017 #105

I am the party's base Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #125

The base comprises steady, reliable Democratic voters. If that describes you, pnwmom Aug 2017 #129

Claiming that Bernie supporters are not the party's base is a divisive group attack Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #136

Nice try but she did not violate ToS. JHan Aug 2017 #137

Yes she did, and feel free to explain your position Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #139

I didn't say they were fake Democrats. And I said that you yourself might be part of the base, pnwmom Aug 2017 #142

You didn't need to use the words to imply it. Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #145

It would be interesting to see a comparison of.tneir rhetoric to Clinton Cash Cary Aug 2017 #256

She typed clear english, JHan Aug 2017 #143

She very clearly said "They are the party's base -- not the Bernie people." Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #147

So you define yourself as a Bernie person first and a democrat second? JHan Aug 2017 #149

I said that if you are a reliable Democrat, then you are part of the base. pnwmom Aug 2017 #150

You don't get to broad-brush Bernie supporters and then make an exception for me. Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #152

Bernie himself doesn't identify as a Democrat, much less a part of the base. pnwmom Aug 2017 #154

Bernie can be an independent without all his followers being independent Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #156

I gave you the definition of "base." We know that Bernie's aim was to expand voting in the party. pnwmom Aug 2017 #140

Nice try, but no. Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #144

I attended a caucus, and I know that many of the attendees were first-timers, pnwmom Aug 2017 #148

The caucus was on a Saturday. Most do not work Saturdays. Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #155

Caucuses attract many people who are passionate about their choice -- but that isn't pnwmom Aug 2017 #158

I'm not going to let my original point be diverted into an argument about caucuses. Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #165

"I and several hundred of my friends were driven from this website by you and people like you." betsuni Aug 2017 #170

Hilarious Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #178

"Privileges. Which we deserve." betsuni Aug 2017 #186

If the :rofl: emoticon is all you have Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #189

Yes, that emoticon is all I have. betsuni Aug 2017 #194

"... word equality" NurseJackie Aug 2017 #247

LOL n/t FSogol Aug 2017 #293

If party affiliation isn't important to a voter, if a voter only chooses based on policies, pnwmom Aug 2017 #173

Party affiliation is based on policies Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #182

You can keep on posting this wiki link from now until eternity melman Aug 2017 #190

"I believe he will run again for the Democratic nomination". Tarheel_Dem Aug 2017 #188

Dead serious. nt Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #191

And that worked out so well for us in '16, you think "Democrats" will be begging for another heaping Tarheel_Dem Aug 2017 #192

Sure, I remember Ralph Nader. Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #218

the 2016 primary is another dead horse BainsBane Aug 2017 #232

I'm more interested in the 2020 primary Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #259

No one drove you from the site BainsBane Aug 2017 #234

Excellent advice. (And, GREAT FIND with the unedited post.) NurseJackie Aug 2017 #238

Stay tuned. BainsBane Aug 2017 #240

Great find? It's only in my journal for all to see. nt Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #260

For those who bother to check. But how likely is that? NurseJackie Aug 2017 #267

WOW Gothmog Aug 2017 #250

Spectacular! ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #253

Thanks Bains. Amazing reply still_one Aug 2017 #254

You sure brought your receipts.. well done. JHan Aug 2017 #255

I love your cat gif!!!!! sheshe2 Aug 2017 #283

You're trying to imply that I edited out a part Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #258

"Hillary will never get my vote" BainsBane Aug 2017 #263

+1 Jamaal510 Aug 2017 #264

+1 betsuni Aug 2017 #265

That's gonna leave a mark! mcar Aug 2017 #268

Wow. Exposed. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #273

Bingo. George II Aug 2017 #274

Thank you for exposing these people. We really are looking at 40 years Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #275

+1 sheshe2 Aug 2017 #284

Thaks for posting this Gothmog Aug 2017 #285

++ infinity ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #287

You just linked to a post written by someone else, not me. Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #288

cool story bro. JHan Aug 2017 #291

You signed the pledge: "I will never vote for Hillary" BainsBane Aug 2017 #292

It's a post, not a pledge. Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #294

Three opportunities to correct the record BainsBane Aug 2017 #296

Please link to where I violated DU's TOS. Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #297

You have admitted you did not vote for Clinton. BainsBane Aug 2017 #310

lol Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #311

These Operation Counteroffensive posts accusing everyone of TOS violations are funny. betsuni Aug 2017 #312

I find all the "put up or shut up" posts hilarious, given how much has been put up Ninsianna Aug 2017 #315

I'd slink back to JPR where I'd be free to "speak as I see fit about corporate Dems and Third Way" betsuni Aug 2017 #316

It's the Trumpkin mentality, they keep seeing losing badly and getting their Ninsianna Aug 2017 #318

Outstanding! brer cat Aug 2017 #308

I'm speechless. Wow. Great post The Polack MSgt Aug 2017 #325

I suppose if a woman were harassed at work, you'd say she chose to leave? Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #261

Yes, we have seen the PM that explained your reason for returning, Ninsianna Aug 2017 #290

Put up or shut up. Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #295

Premptive strikes are not defensive, they are offensive. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #298

Guess you're not gonna put up. nt Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #304

What exactly are you demanding I put up? Ninsianna Aug 2017 #314

you put up heaven05 Aug 2017 #332

BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! heaven05 Aug 2017 #269

Anti democratic party no good fucking ASSHOLES want to invade DU again and help Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #276

Amen! NurseJackie Aug 2017 #281

Thank you! SharonClark Aug 2017 #286

OH SNAP!! bettyellen Aug 2017 #339

You know what I believe? JustAnotherGen Aug 2017 #246

Agreed Gothmog Aug 2017 #252

This message was self-deleted by its author Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #262

+1 betsuni Aug 2017 #266

hmmmmmph heaven05 Aug 2017 #270

Lots of the working poor BainsBane Aug 2017 #242

The Nebraska caucus accepted mail in ballots Omaha Steve Aug 2017 #200

What a sad conversation. Sophomoric and semantics-driven. snowy owl Aug 2017 #183

Voting Democratic BainsBane Aug 2017 #233

Agreed, that's what these returning disruptive forces have been saying, after they Ninsianna Aug 2017 #319

You were very clear. ++++ JHan Aug 2017 #146

You were certainly not disavowed... but I do see the allure in hanging from a cross LanternWaste Aug 2017 #211

Well said n/t emulatorloo Aug 2017 #229

I am the party's base, as are the 16 million plus Americans who Ninsianna Aug 2017 #321

It's a bit early to have a anointed one already. alarimer Jul 2017 #120

Who said she was anointed? BannonsLiver Jul 2017 #122

Who anointed her? BainsBane Aug 2017 #167

Well said! mcar Aug 2017 #214

+1 BeyondGeography Aug 2017 #180

That might be the stupidest post I've ever read. yardwork Aug 2017 #201

That's because it's recycled 2016 campaign rhetoric that doesn't apply here. stevenleser Aug 2017 #203

Agreed, but people really think that he'll be allowed to run as a Dem Ninsianna Aug 2017 #317

If you ever visited Wall Street you are dead to BernieBots. Hamlette Aug 2017 #126

They have their heart set on Tulsi... radical noodle Aug 2017 #135

... BainsBane Aug 2017 #159

It is too early to have your heart set on anyone. riversedge Aug 2017 #205

Agree totally radical noodle Aug 2017 #216

Income inequality? BainsBane Aug 2017 #157

This "anointed" business really gets my goat, which is of course why they do it. betsuni Aug 2017 #161

It's incredible BainsBane Aug 2017 #171

I think she got the national attention organically, on her own. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #174

I can only say how I heard of her as a potential candidate. BainsBane Aug 2017 #176

Her questioning of Sessions was truly a thing of beauty. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #181

Yes, I watched it at the time BainsBane Aug 2017 #185

a yup. boston bean Aug 2017 #208

she has already earned my support AlexSFCA Aug 2017 #179

Pragmatic. You think that is the quality Americans are looking for? snowy owl Aug 2017 #187

After the disaster of DT, Americans will probably be very happy to have pnwmom Aug 2017 #198

Well said. lpbk2713 Aug 2017 #199

People voted against pragmatism 2016. Outsiders turned on electorate. snowy owl Aug 2017 #222

And look how well that turned out. But, no, they actually did not. The election was stolen. pnwmom Aug 2017 #224

People voted against pragmatism 2016. Outsiders turned on electorate. snowy owl Aug 2017 #223

There is already a major backlash to that vote. 2.9 million more chose Hillary, and the number pnwmom Aug 2017 #225

This is stupid. Plenty of Sanders supporters supported Harris. David__77 Aug 2017 #209

I don't understand this rhetoric either. Politics used to be about issues. snowy owl Aug 2017 #219

No - we aren't JustAnotherGen Aug 2017 #244

The root of the problem is that she can't physically become Bernie Sanders. SaschaHM Aug 2017 #215

??????? It's me but I dont understand your post. snowy owl Aug 2017 #220

So looking at a prospective candidate kcdoug1 Aug 2017 #226

She isn't a Candidate JustAnotherGen Aug 2017 #245

Wonder how many progressives are in bed with Wall St delisen Aug 2017 #231

Or spending hundreds of billions BainsBane Aug 2017 #235

She's so right! Also: they need to change their underwear every hour, and wear it on the outside ucrdem Aug 2017 #236

All I know is when we fight amongst ourselves and split the vote we get Trump. Vinca Aug 2017 #239

That seems to be the goal for these disruptive forces. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #323

She's not running for anything JustAnotherGen Aug 2017 #241

and thereby strengthen the GOP congress BainsBane Aug 2017 #248

It's important for the Right Wing Turbineguy Aug 2017 #251

The far left and far right want to destroy the civic order. Dawson Leery Aug 2017 #279

... and the Democratic Party. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #282

because we are frustrated with the trend of big money influencing policy even on the left. Because JCanete Aug 2017 #300

I'm a big Sanders fan .. ananda Aug 2017 #305

Not a fan. pablo_marmol Aug 2017 #306

It pisses me off too, boston bean. But I'm sure it makes the GOP happy. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #313

O F F S - we've got to stop shooting ourselves in the feet. GoneOffShore Aug 2017 #320

FFS wryter2000 Aug 2017 #327

Why are you surprised? Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #328

It wasn't surprise it was exasperation. boston bean Aug 2017 #329