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CrispyQ

(41,120 posts)
101. Some old time repubs are finally awake and alarmed.
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 10:26 PM
Aug 2017

Richard Painter & Steve Schmidt are both alarmed. Last night Painter told how easy it would be to go into an authoritarian dictatorship with the current admin/cabinet and chaos. He said he was scared & you could tell he didn't mean it lightly.

This commentary from Jeff Flake was from yesterday. It's worth reading all of it.

My Party Is in Denial About Donald Trump
We created him, and now we're rationalizing him. When will it stop?
By JEFF FLAKE July 31, 2017


http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/31/my-party-is-in-denial-about-donald-trump-215442

snip...

Who could blame the people who felt abandoned and ignored by the major parties for reaching in despair for a candidate who offered oversimplified answers to infinitely complex questions and managed to entertain them in the process? With hindsight, it is clear that we all but ensured the rise of Donald Trump.

I will let the liberals answer for their own sins in this regard. (There are many.) But we conservatives mocked Barack Obama’s failure to deliver on his pledge to change the tone in Washington even as we worked to assist with that failure. It was we conservatives who, upon Obama’s election, stated that our No. 1 priority was not advancing a conservative policy agenda but making Obama a one-term president—the corollary to this binary thinking being that his failure would be our success and the fortunes of the citizenry would presumably be sorted out in the meantime. It was we conservatives who were largely silent when the most egregious and sustained attacks on Obama’s legitimacy were leveled by marginal figures who would later be embraced and legitimized by far too many of us. It was we conservatives who rightly and robustly asserted our constitutional prerogatives as a co-equal branch of government when a Democrat was in the White House but who, despite solemn vows to do the same in the event of a Trump presidency, have maintained an unnerving silence as instability has ensued. To carry on in the spring of 2017 as if what was happening was anything approaching normalcy required a determined suspension of critical faculties. And tremendous powers of denial.

I’ve been sympathetic to this impulse to denial, as one doesn’t ever want to believe that the government of the United States has been made dysfunctional at the highest levels, especially by the actions of one’s own party. Michael Gerson, a con­servative columnist and former senior adviser to President George W. Bush, wrote, four months into the new presidency, “The conservative mind, in some very visible cases, has become diseased,” and conservative institutions “with the blessings of a president … have abandoned the normal constraints of reason and compassion.”

For a conservative, that’s an awfully bitter pill to swallow. So as I layered in my defense mechanisms, I even found myself saying things like, “If I took the time to respond to every presiden­tial tweet, there would be little time for anything else.” Given the volume and velocity of tweets from both the Trump campaign and then the White House, this was certainly true. But it was also a monumental dodge. It would be like Noah saying, “If I spent all my time obsessing about the coming flood, there would be little time for anything else.” At a certain point, if one is being honest, the flood becomes the thing that is most worthy of attention. At a certain point, it might be time to build an ark.


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You are absolutely right, and you have said it very clearly, my dear Tommy. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2017 #1
That's the hair-pulling frustation question that haunts politics forever. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2017 #3
I told my neighbor today that I have had it! I passed I have had it 5 months ago. BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #25
I hope things turn around and you have a few more years of awesomerwb1 Jul 2017 #77
The Russians did a magnificant job with just a little help from Trump's cadre of nincompoops. olegramps Jul 2017 #88
I couldn't agree more! Chasstev365 Jul 2017 #2
It's all on the voters FiveGoodMen Jul 2017 #75
yeah. Elections have consequences still_one Jul 2017 #4
HE. WAS. NOT. ELECTED... Iwasthere Aug 2017 #102
what happened to the Democrats running for Senate in those critical swing states. They lost to the still_one Aug 2017 #103
They are evil Cary Jul 2017 #5
That is it. He is not partisan. He is just evil. R B Garr Jul 2017 #54
Off to the greatest page with this one. I agree. This has to stop and soon. rzemanfl Jul 2017 #6
Yup. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2017 #8
We just witnessed orangecrush Jul 2017 #7
Recommend. I agree wholeheartedly. nt babylonsister Jul 2017 #9
I think we're screwed no matter what Dopers_Greed Jul 2017 #10
The USA has achieved Idiocracy. CottonBear Jul 2017 #30
WTF? SammyWinstonJack Jul 2017 #69
Kid Rock would be awesome Calculating Jul 2017 #83
Kid rock while I disagree with a lot of his ideals Egnever Jul 2017 #93
Mueller and co. need to give the country kacekwl Jul 2017 #11
I don't know how we can sustain leftieNanner Jul 2017 #12
I was angrier today over McCain and the standing O our Dems gave him adigal Jul 2017 #39
K&R Solly Mack Jul 2017 #13
the amount of damage the fascists can do in the next 4 years elmac Jul 2017 #14
I agree. We have a dictator w/co-conspirators on our hands. The system isn't working. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #15
They not only have to be ruthless i winning, murielm99 Jul 2017 #44
I totally agree. Some voters are just after something they want. If they don't get it, they leave. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #49
"To hell with idealists. We need pragmatists. " lastlib Jul 2017 #66
I think we have crossed the Rubicon. We needed to address this problem years ago. Maven Jul 2017 #16
I hope not. PatrickforO Jul 2017 #32
It is a myth to say we don't own guns. murielm99 Jul 2017 #55
Yes, you are right. winetourdriver01 Jul 2017 #70
Agree with everything, minus one small difference... Moostache Jul 2017 #17
Hear, hear. Missn-Hitch Jul 2017 #33
I actually still had some belief in "God" get the red out Jul 2017 #60
What was "God" supposed to do? Calculating Jul 2017 #84
You are not alone. BarbD Jul 2017 #71
I couldn't agree more. This is a nightmare beyond my wildest dreams. smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #18
We're done! mountain grammy Jul 2017 #19
My sentiments exactly. I want trump to self-destruct, and damned soon. Paladin Jul 2017 #20
My hopes for this are dissipating with the realization that Congress won't do anything. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #51
Yeah, I have low moments, too. Paladin Jul 2017 #68
The abuse of power and the obstruction of justice is obvious... kentuck Jul 2017 #21
It's getting to be hard being constantly appalled by this presidency every friggin day! kimbutgar Jul 2017 #22
I remember GWBush gave Obama one piece of advice adigal Jul 2017 #40
My hope still lies with the intelligence community. WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2017 #74
Speaking of the intelligence community, area51 Jul 2017 #52
I am battle weary. BadgerMom Jul 2017 #23
I'm just so sad and tired. mtngirl47 Jul 2017 #24
The longer this goes on... 2naSalit Jul 2017 #26
I'm so sorry you are having such a hard time. Are there any resources for you where you are? 58Sunliner Jul 2017 #35
I am... 2naSalit Jul 2017 #91
Montana is a hard state, I hear. 58Sunliner Jul 2017 #92
Not at this time... 2naSalit Jul 2017 #95
I hope you do too. 58Sunliner Jul 2017 #97
GOP never impeaches, either every person reading this votes for ANY democrat next year Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #27
A Date That Will Live In Infamy DDySiegs Jul 2017 #28
Organize! Capperdan Jul 2017 #85
Counting on Republicans to save the country is a pipe dream. bronxiteforever Jul 2017 #29
Nicely written Baclava Jul 2017 #31
I live in the midst of MAGAmania Mr. Ected Jul 2017 #34
They are hate-filled, thinking with their Lizard brains adigal Jul 2017 #41
How did you all like the Republican version of CLASS WARFARE today? bucolic_frolic Jul 2017 #36
Agree. It is a horror. He is a walking PTSD trigger. 58Sunliner Jul 2017 #37
I understand why you are doing that. murielm99 Jul 2017 #45
It can mean literal death. It usually means a change, an end, or unforeseen disruption. 58Sunliner Jul 2017 #72
If anyone knows how to fix this they better do it and soon defacto7 Jul 2017 #38
So this bastard can't last....he is eating himself to death adigal Jul 2017 #42
Checking in daily with DU shows me I'm among LuckyLib Jul 2017 #43
Ditto HAB911 Jul 2017 #63
DURec leftstreet Jul 2017 #46
K&R... spanone Jul 2017 #47
I see the light at the end of the tunnel OxQQme Jul 2017 #48
Hate to say it rustbeltrefugee Jul 2017 #50
"...a very dark place if left unchecked" ThoughtCriminal Jul 2017 #53
We are barely a democracy. Jazzgirl Jul 2017 #56
You wrote "The President of the United States is a lunatic". ++++++++++++++++++ Agree iluvtennis Jul 2017 #57
He has made a mockery of the office and of our government for years now. joet67 Jul 2017 #58
Thank you! get the red out Jul 2017 #59
Meanwhile, McCain Drags Himself To the Senate BrooklynTech Jul 2017 #61
If enough people get bucolic_frolic Jul 2017 #62
Where Meowmee Jul 2017 #64
I agree Meowmee Jul 2017 #65
Change can happen, if anyone is interested, there is a new group forming ck4829 Jul 2017 #67
what the GOP is doing azureblue Jul 2017 #73
what did people think would happen if the republicans won the WH, and both houses of Congress? still_one Jul 2017 #76
Unfortunately, it's not just one person but an entire political party that's treacherous. lark Jul 2017 #78
The only people who can remove that narcissistic psychopath Progressive dog Jul 2017 #79
then one by one d party needs to go after elected rs because the bser president is their shield Sunlei Jul 2017 #80
The American Psychoanalytic Association agrees with you... oxbow Jul 2017 #81
I for one welcome our reptilian overlords librechik Jul 2017 #82
Trump is not the only lunatic Perseus Jul 2017 #86
Petition our Congresspersons humbled_opinion Jul 2017 #87
Republicans wanted a lunatic president so they could progress their gay-hate, prison slavery, deport Sunlei Jul 2017 #89
None of this means crap... SpankMe Jul 2017 #90
Yep. You're right. But nope. We are stuck with him and nothing we can do. Kablooie Jul 2017 #94
we are extremely lucky he's not on the same page with deep state & GOP congress... yurbud Jul 2017 #96
It is a powerful test of our political system. I think we'll make it. Nitram Jul 2017 #98
Quite Honestly, I think Trump will be the Fifth Doug the Dem Jul 2017 #99
i think the key to get trump will be through his kids. drray23 Aug 2017 #100
Some old time repubs are finally awake and alarmed. CrispyQ Aug 2017 #101
We can't sustain this level of madness from Trump. russ1943 Aug 2017 #104
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