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Trial_By_Fire

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54. It's a good thing for Dems to promote and message Medicare for All or single payer.

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 10:02 PM

Aug 2017

The time is absolutely prime for upgrading our health care. ACA is a great start.
The addition of Medicare for All ages 50-65 would be a great entry way into Medicare for All/Single Payer.

PR?..well yes and no. Messaging/promoting solutions is exactly how it is done.

Like Conyers HR676 and Sanders Medicare for All shows the American people that
Dems have solutions.

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8 Democratic Senators introduce 'Medicare at 55 Act' [View all] leftstreet Aug 2017 OP

Love it. Lunabell Aug 2017 #1

Nice Catmusicfan Aug 2017 #2

8 DEMOCRATIC Senators..... LisaM Aug 2017 #3

... leftstreet Aug 2017 #4

It's a promise to the electorate. And a reminder of what they lost in 2016. Hortensis Aug 2017 #160

Damn, wish at least a couple repubs would jump on board with this...... a kennedy Aug 2017 #5

Turtlechin has to go before that can happen. WhiteTara Aug 2017 #45

Once it's formally on the docket (if McConnell will allow that) we might see some republicans, and.. George II Aug 2017 #61

That is exactly the problem. lark Aug 2017 #82

A wonderful idea! mcar Aug 2017 #6

So CLOSE! Chasstev365 Aug 2017 #7

Excellent! Questions thou... Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #8

Everybody on Medicare "buys in" - they pay a monthly premium. George II Aug 2017 #10

Not sure about that. Have you read the bill to know that? Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #13

"A monthly charge" is a premium. George II Aug 2017 #17

Yes, I choose the wrong words. But, where is 'buy in' defined? Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #21

No, I "obviously" haven't read the bill, but I'm very familiar with how Medicare works.... George II Aug 2017 #60

You are the one making all the unsubstantiated claims... Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #62

What unsubstantiated claim? George II Aug 2017 #64

My, your new found interest in policy details BainsBane Aug 2017 #134

I applaud these Democratic Senators sheshe2 Aug 2017 #141

... Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #145

We did see you stretching BainsBane Aug 2017 #146

... Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #148

There is a problem, a bill like this would be one line 65 erased, writing 55 MiddleClass Aug 2017 #102

Actually, most people don't pay a premium for Part A. That's funded from the Medicare taxes pnwmom Aug 2017 #151

Yes but everyone working has been pre-paying into the "premium" their entire working lives ToxMarz Aug 2017 #56

I'm sure the premium for those between 55 and 64 will be higher than those 65 and over.... George II Aug 2017 #59

I'm 54 and 5/6ths. I am ready to buy into Medicare. Borchkins Aug 2017 #87

There is superduper savings in Medicare MiddleClass Aug 2017 #105

Actually yes it could. You prepay for hospital care, the premium is for outpatient care MiddleClass Aug 2017 #103

It's not true that Part A is free even if you never paid Medicare taxes. pnwmom Aug 2017 #152

Thank you, I did not know that. MiddleClass Aug 2017 #162

Yes, it would be a good idea for him to see if he can find a job that would let him accrue the pnwmom Aug 2017 #163

Plus every single week in taxes deducted from paychecks MichMan Aug 2017 #31

My monthly deduction from Social Security is $121, it was $127 last year.... George II Aug 2017 #37

Including the more you make the more you pay for part B. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #126

Monthly premiums are for outpatient, doctors and the like, hospitalization is free, + 1000 deduction MiddleClass Aug 2017 #50

Hold Harmless Clause of SS HockeyMom Aug 2017 #106

Hold harmless clause, thank you, I couldn't remember the name MiddleClass Aug 2017 #121

There's a bad surprise lurking in that hospitalization deductible. Tracer Aug 2017 #108

Your comments are misleading... llmart Aug 2017 #116

Medicare part A, as no premium for 65 +, but it does have, "ouch" $1300 deductible MiddleClass Aug 2017 #123

Medicare spends a lot more than what it receives Cicada Aug 2017 #89

You're mostly right. Medicare is subsidized. Everybody pays in from their paycheck MiddleClass Aug 2017 #111

There's no premium for Part A of Medicare. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2017 #68

You pay a subsidized amount for Medicare Part B forthemiddle Aug 2017 #90

Yup. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2017 #130

I was nervous about our supplemental insurance once I (and then we) retired. Not knowing... George II Aug 2017 #132

Yes, it's absolutely a start leftstreet Aug 2017 #12

Your medicare cost now depends on how much money you make in retirement leftofcool Aug 2017 #16

Thanks. I still have a few years to go for Medicare. Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #22

George Bush Junior did that to the higher earners, by reducing the subsidy MiddleClass Aug 2017 #124

'What does 'buy in' mean? What would the cost be?' - Excellent questions. And without reading... PoliticAverse Aug 2017 #51

It's a good thing for Dems to promote and message Medicare for All or single payer. Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #54

+1 leftstreet Aug 2017 #57

Awesome!! workinclasszero Aug 2017 #9

Oh hell yes! ornotna Aug 2017 #11

Excellent. Wish someone would come up with creditable estimate of premiums (buy-in) Hoyt Aug 2017 #14

Yeah, I can't find any estimates yet leftstreet Aug 2017 #23

$135, if you are below the mean income per person per month MiddleClass Aug 2017 #33

Where is that from? Thanks. Hoyt Aug 2017 #38

You're welcome, I'm on Medicare, (disabled) MiddleClass Aug 2017 #58

I have Medicare too, secondary, still working. But I think your estimate is just Part B, Hoyt Aug 2017 #63

Exactly, Medicare as a secondary is actually very rare, because it's optional. While you are working MiddleClass Aug 2017 #96

$540 is less than most 55-64 year olds pay on the exchange TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #72

Great points, Democrats will fight to bring the subsidy down to 55-year-olds making it $139 MiddleClass Aug 2017 #97

Unfortunately, the $540/month only applies to doctor costs and a few other benefits. Hoyt Aug 2017 #104

"whether people get behind such legislation." - The less specifics the better... PoliticAverse Aug 2017 #52

This session maybe, but no advantage to pushing a loser pipe dream that I see. Hoyt Aug 2017 #53

How 'bout Medicare at Birth! sandensea Aug 2017 #15

+1 leftstreet Aug 2017 #18

Baby steps, you would have a full frontal, all hands on deck insurance war MiddleClass Aug 2017 #34

Exactly right, Middleclass! Johnyawl Aug 2017 #65

Now we are cooking, but we don't give up the mandate that easy, make them work for it MiddleClass Aug 2017 #94

I'm fine with interim steps. Voltaire2 Aug 2017 #139

this is the kind of thing that cam save the Democratic Party yurbud Aug 2017 #19

This is a GREAT idea and marketing point. kimbutgar Aug 2017 #20

This was a part of Hillary's campaign jayschool2013 Aug 2017 #24

That's true leftstreet Aug 2017 #25

Yes it was workinclasszero Aug 2017 #26

And no Joe Lieberman to kill it this go around! JDC Aug 2017 #27

However, unlike 2009, there are not 59 other Democratic Senators karynnj Aug 2017 #73

Yeah. Maybe Colins and Merkowski will step up JDC Aug 2017 #79

That's great, people above 55 deserve to get the financial protections afforded seniors MiddleClass Aug 2017 #28

Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #29

In America tiredtoo Aug 2017 #30

The timing could not be more perfect. KentuckyWoman Aug 2017 #32

Push it now, if fails, push it again right before the election, when Republicans are running for the MiddleClass Aug 2017 #40

I would love it extvbroadcaster Aug 2017 #35

Welcome to DU leftstreet Aug 2017 #43

Yeah, he sure had that right. I think that's been true since St. Ronnie. nt raccoon Aug 2017 #88

Hope I live that long. 10 years to go. GreenPartyVoter Aug 2017 #36

That's Our Senator.... LovingA2andMI Aug 2017 #39

Great news, but would be more affordable if AllyCat Aug 2017 #41

Yeah leftstreet Aug 2017 #46

Right on! AllyCat Aug 2017 #69

Leaving only a 30 year gap between parental coverage and Medicare. Getting there..... lindysalsagal Aug 2017 #42

Medicare buy-in at 55 was part of Hillary Clinton's platform but she didn't hype it much. DesertRat Aug 2017 #44

Buy in costs according to CBO could be high. kellytore Aug 2017 #47

I didn't know the CBO had estimated it leftstreet Aug 2017 #48

If you add in 55 61 , it would be way cheaper. Because 62 4. I'm assuming is because MiddleClass Aug 2017 #131

Make it available for employers to offer to employees. roamer65 Aug 2017 #49

Please, let's not tie Medicare to employers now, it is bad enough regular health insurance is. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2017 #66

It it already "tied" to many employers health plans. roamer65 Aug 2017 #110

Making it more likely to pass. Fog and hot water MiddleClass Aug 2017 #135

Two words: FUCK YES Old Crow Aug 2017 #55

k&r n/t lordsummerisle Aug 2017 #67

Oh, hell yeah! LudwigPastorius Aug 2017 #70

Yeah, this age group really needs it! BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #71

Where are the establishment "Dem" senators on this . . . ? FairWinds Aug 2017 #74

Democrats showing they work for the people! SunSeeker Aug 2017 #75

Damn, is THIS overdue Warpy Aug 2017 #76

Not only is this a great idea but Freddie Aug 2017 #77

Forget buying into, we need to lower the age to 55. ileus Aug 2017 #78

Hey, I could deal with that!! 7962 Aug 2017 #80

Monthy premium/cost info DeminPennswoods Aug 2017 #81

If you fall into this group CountAllVotes Aug 2017 #95

You don't not get a COLA DeminPennswoods Aug 2017 #149

The COLA goes towards Medicare premiums CountAllVotes Aug 2017 #150

Cola does not go to "all premiums" DeminPennswoods Aug 2017 #155

Well they sucked it all up last year CountAllVotes Aug 2017 #156

Some folks could retire much earlier if this happned obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #83

Well, some could... llmart Aug 2017 #119

You're right, that option with only be available for the comfortably situated MiddleClass Aug 2017 #140

I said SOME, and you are wrong about well off obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #165

I guess it depends on how you define "well off"... llmart Aug 2017 #166

Why not Mediare at birth.....?????? This is half-assed....... roomtomove Aug 2017 #84

I don't disagree leftstreet Aug 2017 #92

If you haven't read Franken's book, "Giant of the Senate" I highly recommend it. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2017 #85

Makes me PROUD to be a DEMOCRAT!!! I like how they focus on getting things DONE... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #86

good start.... dhill926 Aug 2017 #91

I would go to 50 myself, but it's a great idea... Wounded Bear Aug 2017 #93

I just called my 2 MA Democratic senators, asking them to support this. n/t usrbs Aug 2017 #98

A personal thank you, we should all call MiddleClass Aug 2017 #142

They should probably include persons under 30, as a way of balancing the risk. TryLogic Aug 2017 #99

Yes leftstreet Aug 2017 #100

Bernie Sanders not a sponsor? brooklynite Aug 2017 #101

Half a loaf is better than defiantly starving to death. I'll take half a loaf, please... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #112

It is the very definition of progression. One step forward. nt DoodAbides Aug 2017 #117

Yay! We have to start somewhere. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #107

I think this is a very very good move and can be well implemented in Blue states, with support. DoodAbides Aug 2017 #109

Let's set up Medicare for all KWR65 Aug 2017 #113

Oh, I am quite sure... llmart Aug 2017 #114

LOL leftstreet Aug 2017 #115

Thanks to these Senators who sponsored and co-sponsored it: George II Aug 2017 #118

Yes! llmart Aug 2017 #120

AL FRANKEN totally ROCKS!! He's one of us... A *TRUE* DEMOCRAT (IYKWIM) NurseJackie Aug 2017 #122

And funny, too. Love that guy. George II Aug 2017 #136

I like his demeanor, his speaking style... and his homespun humor. He... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #138

Is this limited to "Democrats Only"? Are there any Independents or moderate Republicans interested NurseJackie Aug 2017 #125

I am bothered by how many Democrats didnt sign on, and one that is neither Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #127

I have no idea leftstreet Aug 2017 #129

Get it right - it's ALL or nothing for some!!! George II Aug 2017 #133

I know what you mean. I really don't understand why some take such PRIDE at... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #137

Excellent! DownriverDem Aug 2017 #128

K&R Scurrilous Aug 2017 #143

How much $$ ?? bhowle Aug 2017 #144

sounds good. nt TheFrenchRazor Aug 2017 #147

I would like to see Social Security match the 55 years old change Not Ruth Aug 2017 #153

Any of them for Prez! samnsara Aug 2017 #154

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Sadly, no leftstreet Aug 2017 #158

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Man, this would have saved me about $70k in insurance payments to be a retiree in my former WinkyDink Aug 2017 #161

I am 50 this would be nice for me demtenjeep Aug 2017 #164