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MiddleClass

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121. Hold harmless clause, thank you, I couldn't remember the name
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 03:12 PM
Aug 2017

I think when there's a Cost Of Living Allowance, the previous increase from previous years that were canceled do not apply at all anymore? Not withheld retroactively?

Such new Medicare recipients would pay the higher premium, where current enrollees see no retroactive increase from the year before?

I love it, it's harder for newer retirees as they pay more than us for Medicare. I miss the $47

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Love it. Lunabell Aug 2017 #1
Nice Catmusicfan Aug 2017 #2
8 DEMOCRATIC Senators..... LisaM Aug 2017 #3
... leftstreet Aug 2017 #4
It's a promise to the electorate. And a reminder of what they lost in 2016. Hortensis Aug 2017 #160
Damn, wish at least a couple repubs would jump on board with this...... a kennedy Aug 2017 #5
Turtlechin has to go before that can happen. WhiteTara Aug 2017 #45
Once it's formally on the docket (if McConnell will allow that) we might see some republicans, and.. George II Aug 2017 #61
That is exactly the problem. lark Aug 2017 #82
A wonderful idea! mcar Aug 2017 #6
So CLOSE! Chasstev365 Aug 2017 #7
Excellent! Questions thou... Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #8
Everybody on Medicare "buys in" - they pay a monthly premium. George II Aug 2017 #10
Not sure about that. Have you read the bill to know that? Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #13
"A monthly charge" is a premium. George II Aug 2017 #17
Yes, I choose the wrong words. But, where is 'buy in' defined? Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #21
No, I "obviously" haven't read the bill, but I'm very familiar with how Medicare works.... George II Aug 2017 #60
You are the one making all the unsubstantiated claims... Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #62
What unsubstantiated claim? George II Aug 2017 #64
My, your new found interest in policy details BainsBane Aug 2017 #134
I applaud these Democratic Senators sheshe2 Aug 2017 #141
... Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #145
We did see you stretching BainsBane Aug 2017 #146
... Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #148
There is a problem, a bill like this would be one line 65 erased, writing 55 MiddleClass Aug 2017 #102
Actually, most people don't pay a premium for Part A. That's funded from the Medicare taxes pnwmom Aug 2017 #151
Yes but everyone working has been pre-paying into the "premium" their entire working lives ToxMarz Aug 2017 #56
I'm sure the premium for those between 55 and 64 will be higher than those 65 and over.... George II Aug 2017 #59
I'm 54 and 5/6ths. I am ready to buy into Medicare. Borchkins Aug 2017 #87
There is superduper savings in Medicare MiddleClass Aug 2017 #105
Actually yes it could. You prepay for hospital care, the premium is for outpatient care MiddleClass Aug 2017 #103
It's not true that Part A is free even if you never paid Medicare taxes. pnwmom Aug 2017 #152
Thank you, I did not know that. MiddleClass Aug 2017 #162
Yes, it would be a good idea for him to see if he can find a job that would let him accrue the pnwmom Aug 2017 #163
Plus every single week in taxes deducted from paychecks MichMan Aug 2017 #31
My monthly deduction from Social Security is $121, it was $127 last year.... George II Aug 2017 #37
Including the more you make the more you pay for part B. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #126
Monthly premiums are for outpatient, doctors and the like, hospitalization is free, + 1000 deduction MiddleClass Aug 2017 #50
Hold Harmless Clause of SS HockeyMom Aug 2017 #106
Hold harmless clause, thank you, I couldn't remember the name MiddleClass Aug 2017 #121
There's a bad surprise lurking in that hospitalization deductible. Tracer Aug 2017 #108
Your comments are misleading... llmart Aug 2017 #116
Medicare part A, as no premium for 65 +, but it does have, "ouch" $1300 deductible MiddleClass Aug 2017 #123
Medicare spends a lot more than what it receives Cicada Aug 2017 #89
You're mostly right. Medicare is subsidized. Everybody pays in from their paycheck MiddleClass Aug 2017 #111
There's no premium for Part A of Medicare. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2017 #68
You pay a subsidized amount for Medicare Part B forthemiddle Aug 2017 #90
Yup. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2017 #130
I was nervous about our supplemental insurance once I (and then we) retired. Not knowing... George II Aug 2017 #132
Yes, it's absolutely a start leftstreet Aug 2017 #12
Your medicare cost now depends on how much money you make in retirement leftofcool Aug 2017 #16
Thanks. I still have a few years to go for Medicare. Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #22
George Bush Junior did that to the higher earners, by reducing the subsidy MiddleClass Aug 2017 #124
'What does 'buy in' mean? What would the cost be?' - Excellent questions. And without reading... PoliticAverse Aug 2017 #51
It's a good thing for Dems to promote and message Medicare for All or single payer. Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #54
+1 leftstreet Aug 2017 #57
Awesome!! workinclasszero Aug 2017 #9
Oh hell yes! ornotna Aug 2017 #11
Excellent. Wish someone would come up with creditable estimate of premiums (buy-in) Hoyt Aug 2017 #14
Yeah, I can't find any estimates yet leftstreet Aug 2017 #23
$135, if you are below the mean income per person per month MiddleClass Aug 2017 #33
Where is that from? Thanks. Hoyt Aug 2017 #38
You're welcome, I'm on Medicare, (disabled) MiddleClass Aug 2017 #58
I have Medicare too, secondary, still working. But I think your estimate is just Part B, Hoyt Aug 2017 #63
Exactly, Medicare as a secondary is actually very rare, because it's optional. While you are working MiddleClass Aug 2017 #96
$540 is less than most 55-64 year olds pay on the exchange TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #72
Great points, Democrats will fight to bring the subsidy down to 55-year-olds making it $139 MiddleClass Aug 2017 #97
Unfortunately, the $540/month only applies to doctor costs and a few other benefits. Hoyt Aug 2017 #104
"whether people get behind such legislation." - The less specifics the better... PoliticAverse Aug 2017 #52
This session maybe, but no advantage to pushing a loser pipe dream that I see. Hoyt Aug 2017 #53
How 'bout Medicare at Birth! sandensea Aug 2017 #15
+1 leftstreet Aug 2017 #18
Baby steps, you would have a full frontal, all hands on deck insurance war MiddleClass Aug 2017 #34
Exactly right, Middleclass! Johnyawl Aug 2017 #65
Now we are cooking, but we don't give up the mandate that easy, make them work for it MiddleClass Aug 2017 #94
I'm fine with interim steps. Voltaire2 Aug 2017 #139
this is the kind of thing that cam save the Democratic Party yurbud Aug 2017 #19
This is a GREAT idea and marketing point. kimbutgar Aug 2017 #20
This was a part of Hillary's campaign jayschool2013 Aug 2017 #24
That's true leftstreet Aug 2017 #25
Yes it was workinclasszero Aug 2017 #26
And no Joe Lieberman to kill it this go around! JDC Aug 2017 #27
However, unlike 2009, there are not 59 other Democratic Senators karynnj Aug 2017 #73
Yeah. Maybe Colins and Merkowski will step up JDC Aug 2017 #79
That's great, people above 55 deserve to get the financial protections afforded seniors MiddleClass Aug 2017 #28
Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #29
In America tiredtoo Aug 2017 #30
The timing could not be more perfect. KentuckyWoman Aug 2017 #32
Push it now, if fails, push it again right before the election, when Republicans are running for the MiddleClass Aug 2017 #40
I would love it extvbroadcaster Aug 2017 #35
Welcome to DU leftstreet Aug 2017 #43
Yeah, he sure had that right. I think that's been true since St. Ronnie. nt raccoon Aug 2017 #88
Hope I live that long. 10 years to go. GreenPartyVoter Aug 2017 #36
That's Our Senator.... LovingA2andMI Aug 2017 #39
Great news, but would be more affordable if AllyCat Aug 2017 #41
Yeah leftstreet Aug 2017 #46
Right on! AllyCat Aug 2017 #69
Leaving only a 30 year gap between parental coverage and Medicare. Getting there..... lindysalsagal Aug 2017 #42
Medicare buy-in at 55 was part of Hillary Clinton's platform but she didn't hype it much. DesertRat Aug 2017 #44
Buy in costs according to CBO could be high. kellytore Aug 2017 #47
I didn't know the CBO had estimated it leftstreet Aug 2017 #48
If you add in 55 61 , it would be way cheaper. Because 62 4. I'm assuming is because MiddleClass Aug 2017 #131
Make it available for employers to offer to employees. roamer65 Aug 2017 #49
Please, let's not tie Medicare to employers now, it is bad enough regular health insurance is. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2017 #66
It it already "tied" to many employers health plans. roamer65 Aug 2017 #110
Making it more likely to pass. Fog and hot water MiddleClass Aug 2017 #135
Two words: FUCK YES Old Crow Aug 2017 #55
k&r n/t lordsummerisle Aug 2017 #67
Oh, hell yeah! LudwigPastorius Aug 2017 #70
Yeah, this age group really needs it! BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #71
Where are the establishment "Dem" senators on this . . . ? FairWinds Aug 2017 #74
Democrats showing they work for the people! SunSeeker Aug 2017 #75
Damn, is THIS overdue Warpy Aug 2017 #76
Not only is this a great idea but Freddie Aug 2017 #77
Forget buying into, we need to lower the age to 55. ileus Aug 2017 #78
Hey, I could deal with that!! 7962 Aug 2017 #80
Monthy premium/cost info DeminPennswoods Aug 2017 #81
If you fall into this group CountAllVotes Aug 2017 #95
You don't not get a COLA DeminPennswoods Aug 2017 #149
The COLA goes towards Medicare premiums CountAllVotes Aug 2017 #150
Cola does not go to "all premiums" DeminPennswoods Aug 2017 #155
Well they sucked it all up last year CountAllVotes Aug 2017 #156
Some folks could retire much earlier if this happned obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #83
Well, some could... llmart Aug 2017 #119
You're right, that option with only be available for the comfortably situated MiddleClass Aug 2017 #140
I said SOME, and you are wrong about well off obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #165
I guess it depends on how you define "well off"... llmart Aug 2017 #166
Why not Mediare at birth.....?????? This is half-assed....... roomtomove Aug 2017 #84
I don't disagree leftstreet Aug 2017 #92
If you haven't read Franken's book, "Giant of the Senate" I highly recommend it. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2017 #85
Makes me PROUD to be a DEMOCRAT!!! I like how they focus on getting things DONE... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #86
good start.... dhill926 Aug 2017 #91
I would go to 50 myself, but it's a great idea... Wounded Bear Aug 2017 #93
I just called my 2 MA Democratic senators, asking them to support this. n/t usrbs Aug 2017 #98
A personal thank you, we should all call MiddleClass Aug 2017 #142
They should probably include persons under 30, as a way of balancing the risk. TryLogic Aug 2017 #99
Yes leftstreet Aug 2017 #100
Bernie Sanders not a sponsor? brooklynite Aug 2017 #101
Half a loaf is better than defiantly starving to death. I'll take half a loaf, please... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #112
It is the very definition of progression. One step forward. nt DoodAbides Aug 2017 #117
Yay! We have to start somewhere. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #107
I think this is a very very good move and can be well implemented in Blue states, with support. DoodAbides Aug 2017 #109
Let's set up Medicare for all KWR65 Aug 2017 #113
Oh, I am quite sure... llmart Aug 2017 #114
LOL leftstreet Aug 2017 #115
Thanks to these Senators who sponsored and co-sponsored it: George II Aug 2017 #118
Yes! llmart Aug 2017 #120
AL FRANKEN totally ROCKS!! He's one of us... A *TRUE* DEMOCRAT (IYKWIM) NurseJackie Aug 2017 #122
And funny, too. Love that guy. George II Aug 2017 #136
I like his demeanor, his speaking style... and his homespun humor. He... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #138
Is this limited to "Democrats Only"? Are there any Independents or moderate Republicans interested NurseJackie Aug 2017 #125
I am bothered by how many Democrats didnt sign on, and one that is neither Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #127
I have no idea leftstreet Aug 2017 #129
Get it right - it's ALL or nothing for some!!! George II Aug 2017 #133
I know what you mean. I really don't understand why some take such PRIDE at... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #137
Excellent! DownriverDem Aug 2017 #128
K&R Scurrilous Aug 2017 #143
How much $$ ?? bhowle Aug 2017 #144
sounds good. nt TheFrenchRazor Aug 2017 #147
I would like to see Social Security match the 55 years old change Not Ruth Aug 2017 #153
Any of them for Prez! samnsara Aug 2017 #154
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Sadly, no leftstreet Aug 2017 #158
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Man, this would have saved me about $70k in insurance payments to be a retiree in my former WinkyDink Aug 2017 #161
I am 50 this would be nice for me demtenjeep Aug 2017 #164
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