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emulatorloo

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Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:35 PM Aug 2017

WAPO: "Theres no such thing as a Trump Democrat" [View all]

Quick Summary: Those Obama voters who switched to the Trump were largely Republican to start with. The abberation wasn't their votes for Trump but their votes for Obama.

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There’s no such thing as a Trump Democrat

By Dana Milbank Opinion writer August 4 at 3:37 PM

Do you believe in mermaids, unicorns and fairies? If so, you may have taken interest in a new mythical creature that appeared during the 2016 election: the Trump Democrat.

It has become an article of faith that an unusually large number of people who voted for Barack Obama in 2008 or 2012 switched sides and voted for Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton. It follows that Democrats, to win in the future, need to get these lost partisans to come home.

But new data, and an analysis by AFL-CIO political director Michael Podhorzer that he shared with me, puts all this into question. The number of Obama-to-Trump voters turns out to be smaller than thought. And those Obama voters who did switch to Trump were largely Republican voters to start with. The aberration wasn’t their votes for Trump but their votes for Obama.

It follows for Democrats that most of these Obama-Trump voters aren’t going to be persuaded to vote Democratic in future; the party would do better to go after disaffected Democrats who didn’t vote in 2016 or who voted for third parties.

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And those Obama voters who did cross to Trump look a lot like Republicans. The AFL-CIO’s Podhorzer analyzed raw data from the Cooperative Congressional Election Study , out in the spring, and found that Obama-Trump voters voted for Republican congressional candidates by a 31-point margin, Republican Senate candidates by a 15-point margin and Republican gubernatorial candidates by a 27-point margin. Their views on immigration and Obamacare also put them solidly in the GOP camp.

“Democratic analysts who are looking to solve the party’s problem by appealing to this small group of Obama-Trump voters are pointing themselves to a group that by and large is a Republican group now,” Podhorzer told me. “The bulk of Obama-Trump voters are not fed-up Democratic voters; they are Republican voters who chose Obama in 2012. As such, few are available in 2018 or 2020.” Democrats should instead appeal broadly to working-class voters, he said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/theres-no-such-thing-as-a-trump-democrat/2017/08/04/0d5d06bc-7920-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html

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Hear, hear. onecaliberal Aug 2017 #1
Exactly. we can do it Aug 2017 #2
thank you for the summary. barbtries Aug 2017 #3
Not at all surprising...nt Wounded Bear Aug 2017 #4
Now if we can only refute the idea ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #5
lol....+++++++ JHan Aug 2017 #8
+2 Tarheel_Dem Aug 2017 #37
Trump Democrats were the cover story for the rigged election. Botany Aug 2017 #6
Yes I think you're right about this FakeNoose Aug 2017 #17
i know...i know ..... samnsara Aug 2017 #32
Exactly Butterflylady Aug 2017 #7
I've Been Thinking This. PoorMonger Aug 2017 #9
"There is no such thing as a Trump Democrat." 3catwoman3 Aug 2017 #10
Even if we assume that this is true, what exactly is the point here? YoungDemCA Aug 2017 #11
The point is tiredtoo Aug 2017 #12
OK. nt YoungDemCA Aug 2017 #18
agree onetexan Aug 2017 #27
You Have To Ask? Me. Aug 2017 #26
To go after the base that was suppressed or didn't vote uponit7771 Aug 2017 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Aug 2017 #44
K&R Scurrilous Aug 2017 #13
what i have said all along. there is NO such thing as a trump supporting dem. samnsara Aug 2017 #14
Agreed. 58Sunliner Aug 2017 #15
A lot of Dems I know thought that since he had no strong ideology BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #16
Can We Now, Once & For All Me. Aug 2017 #19
Amen! broadcaster90210 Aug 2017 #25
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2017 #29
Amen! leftofcool Aug 2017 #33
Analysis by AFL-CIO (thank a union for paying dues to the AFL-CIO) Omaha Steve Aug 2017 #20
Good post! KPN Aug 2017 #56
K and R LittleGirl Aug 2017 #21
K & R SunSeeker Aug 2017 #22
What catering are we doing? Who is in disagreement that we should be broadly appealing to the JCanete Aug 2017 #23
M$M describes "working class" as mostly white people so they and narrow sighted dems are ... uponit7771 Aug 2017 #30
you are right, the MSM has its own spin on this...a total bastardization of the actual point, and JCanete Aug 2017 #31
Bingo. broadcaster90210 Aug 2017 #24
Another election myth busted mcar Aug 2017 #34
Kick. So who has been pushing that myth as truth??? Squinch Aug 2017 #35
some trump voters themselves as a defense for voting for such a vile bigoted man JI7 Aug 2017 #39
Rec, thanks, nt. Mc Mike Aug 2017 #36
It never made sense. Thanks for posting. n/t Tarheel_Dem Aug 2017 #38
Excellent - thanks for posting that! Mountain Mule Aug 2017 #40
If the goal is to appeal zentrum Aug 2017 #41
Common denominator was hope DeminPennswoods Aug 2017 #42
Make this an OP. This is the essential point. yardwork Aug 2017 #45
Feel free to make one DeminPennswoods Aug 2017 #58
Exactly... and I personally know 4 or 5 of them. lamp_shade Aug 2017 #43
What resonated with them in Bernie's message? yardwork Aug 2017 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author lamp_shade Aug 2017 #49
I really don't know. lamp_shade Aug 2017 #50
Obama-Trump voters just bandwagon followers. Good advice to ignore them & make a bandwagon instead. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #47
Yes indeed--idiot racist fuckheads. Orrex Aug 2017 #48
It's an insidious myth. dalton99a Aug 2017 #51
Yes--a myth that conservative Dems wanted to believe Loubee Aug 2017 #52
I read this in my copy of the Post this morning. I believe they are completely right. Nitram Aug 2017 #53
Makes sense. I saw one on tv. No way she was ever a Democrat. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #54
The message is not fooled Aug 2017 #55
Yes, we have to go after the disaffected Democrats. KPN Aug 2017 #57
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