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36. Their deeply held beliefs put trump in the White House. You can't possibly be arguing

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:02 PM

Aug 2017

That any republican policy is good for anyone but the 1%. I have deeply held beliefs as well. I am a moral person, however, my mama didn't raise a fool. It's time to LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE. A psycho has possession of the nuke codes, one that is controlled by RUSSIA.

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If we can't support Kamala Harris or democrats like [View all] onecaliberal Aug 2017 OP

There is no candidate I agree with 100% SHRED Aug 2017 #1

And there never will be. MineralMan Aug 2017 #10

I concur wholeheartedly. SHRED Aug 2017 #51

Beyond the Russian bots WhiteTara Aug 2017 #2

Are they still misogynistic if they support Warren? Not Ruth Aug 2017 #4

Don't know... can a person be racist and have that one Black friend? Caliman73 Aug 2017 #6

Part misogyny and part unconscious racial bias. Harris would be a great candidate brush Aug 2017 #15

I think its the opposite. mr_liberal Aug 2017 #23

Ok, that's your opinion. IMO some are opposing her for the same reasons you state. brush Aug 2017 #24

Some of those same people are saying mercuryblues Aug 2017 #76

We'll see if she runs for President WhiteTara Aug 2017 #21

This is the left blindly lashing out at centrists, not misogyny Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2017 #37

K&R mcar Aug 2017 #3

The vast majority of Democrats support Kamala. progressoid Aug 2017 #5

Russian bots are all over this. lark Aug 2017 #8

There is a small group Skidmore Aug 2017 #79

There Is A Whiff In The Air Me. Aug 2017 #123

I can't wait til this primary is over! n/t leftstreet Aug 2017 #7

Right? Holy shit people it's 2017...way too early for the circular firing squads... WoonTars Aug 2017 #85

Absolutely agree! dragonfly301 Aug 2017 #112

I'm with you 100%. Also, I'd never vote for somebody that agrees with me 100%. tonyt53 Aug 2017 #9

I have never encountered another human being with whom I agree 100% TNNurse Aug 2017 #11

I agree. We need to bring back the DLC and Third Way. That's how you win. nm mr_liberal Aug 2017 #12

Thanks for the textbook example. onecaliberal Aug 2017 #13

Im being serious. I think the best possible Democratic candidate for Pres mr_liberal Aug 2017 #17

My point is we aren't going to agree 100% with everything and everyone. onecaliberal Aug 2017 #19

Youre always going to have the left complain. It happens every election. mr_liberal Aug 2017 #26

I think people will vote for who they want to win. David__77 Aug 2017 #46

"We have to stop fighting each other and work together." +1 . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #168

That was in response to 12 years of Republicans in the White House. It was grim. yallerdawg Aug 2017 #16

I don't think you grow the party by going left though. mr_liberal Aug 2017 #18

and that is a shame. Ligyron Aug 2017 #34

Bernie developed a huge following. There are a number of reasons why. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2017 #62

Agree-well stated, thanks! Tumbulu Aug 2017 #92

Thank you! I'm glad that made sense! BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2017 #101

The issue for me is not compromise itself, but compromising values. moriah Aug 2017 #174

Small things can grow. snort Aug 2017 #14

No question. I can see the Russian bots all over DU and twitter again. onecaliberal Aug 2017 #20

Thank you. The "Nothing-For-The-Best-For-The-Oppressed" bullshit. . . DinahMoeHum Aug 2017 #22

Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #25

I am a lifelong democrat a former elected member of my county central committee onecaliberal Aug 2017 #27

My troll meter is going off Old Vet Aug 2017 #31

MIR team's troll meter is working well, too Brother Buzz Aug 2017 #35

welcome to DU, word of advice. Calling other duers trolls is not ok uppityperson Aug 2017 #29

I disagree sir, Going down the road of name calling such as corporate dems on the first post is Old Vet Aug 2017 #39

"Is oncaliberal a troll?" johnp3907 Aug 2017 #33

In Belgium... Kogaratsu72 Aug 2017 #28

interesting. Ligyron Aug 2017 #38

Like connerie. OilemFirchen Aug 2017 #78

Personalities are the true test of orientation, not issues imposed by the era. Hortensis Aug 2017 #194

Too many on the "left" Jakes Progress Aug 2017 #30

Purity tests are not bullshit. ZX86 Aug 2017 #32

Their deeply held beliefs put trump in the White House. You can't possibly be arguing onecaliberal Aug 2017 #36

Exactly mvd Aug 2017 #43

Dear OneCali . . FairWinds Aug 2017 #40

#1 reason. She IS a Democrat. She was just an example. Everyone will have different opinions onecaliberal Aug 2017 #59

Your answer confirms my support . . FairWinds Aug 2017 #65

Lieberman was NEVER at the top of the ticket. If his state saw fit to send him to D.C. onecaliberal Aug 2017 #66

Deflection alert . . FairWinds Aug 2017 #69

I didn't say if SHE I said if you don't vote for the actual candidate (top of ticket) onecaliberal Aug 2017 #74

Isn't it good enough to support her in her work for the only office she's interested in Ninsianna Aug 2017 #150

Haven't we learned anything about having party loyalists annoint a nominee? DefenseLawyer Aug 2017 #41

Right. She is a possibility, but.. mvd Aug 2017 #44

Maybe you should read what I wrote. I said Harris or OTHER Dems like her onecaliberal Aug 2017 #61

Like her in what way? n/t DefenseLawyer Aug 2017 #67

Democrats mcar Aug 2017 #182

Yes, exactly! nt Raine Aug 2017 #153

If we can't support Bernie Sanders, we deserve to lose. David__77 Aug 2017 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author Old Vet Aug 2017 #48

I want my Democratic candidates to come from the Democratic party Progressive dog Aug 2017 #45

Bernie comes from the FDR wing . . FairWinds Aug 2017 #63

Yes indeed. OilemFirchen Aug 2017 #80

Unlike Bernie, Reagan was a Democrat The Polack MSgt Aug 2017 #81

Oh baloney, he is not a Democrat Tumbulu Aug 2017 #91

I am calling BS. GulfCoast66 Aug 2017 #97

No he doesn't Progressive dog Aug 2017 #161

I've been scammed too many times by the country club democrats . . FairWinds Aug 2017 #184

I've voted for Ms Harris six times: three primaries and three general elections. Iggo Aug 2017 #47

Of course it does. Once the primary was over you voted for the ticket. That's what I'm saying. onecaliberal Aug 2017 #64

Ditto. TDale313 Aug 2017 #119

Almost everyone on this board and elsewhere is fine with giving every Democrat a chance aikoaiko Aug 2017 #49

I agree jimlup Aug 2017 #50

The purists are why we have president Trump now. hrmjustin Aug 2017 #52

beg to differ with you tiredtoo Aug 2017 #56

Who did Trump defeat by 74 electoral votes again? BeyondGeography Aug 2017 #77

The Sanders campaign proved that roody Aug 2017 #53

You do if you want those who control power and access to support you. YoungDemCA Aug 2017 #55

It most certainly did not prove that Tumbulu Aug 2017 #58

Yeah, e.g. Kamala Harris has to fight for her life in notoriously right-wing California. YoungDemCA Aug 2017 #68

California is not a cheap place to run a campaign Tumbulu Aug 2017 #90

She Does In The Senate & On Committees Me. Aug 2017 #135

I agree, it didn't prove it. It may however have opened the door for others to try the same approach JCanete Aug 2017 #155

in the end it wasn't a winning strategy. hrmjustin Aug 2017 #70

He lost. liquid diamond Aug 2017 #88

I'm out of the loop on this one. YoungDemCA Aug 2017 #54

It's about Divide-And-Conquer. (n/t) Iggo Aug 2017 #57

Harris got some positive reviews since she came to Washington marylandblue Aug 2017 #72

Thanks, I missed it as well. Tumbulu Aug 2017 #94

Don't fall for the bait, y'all... oxbow Aug 2017 #60

I hope DUers are taking notice Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #71

Check that. Good observation. onecaliberal Aug 2017 #75

Never happen. She just isn't pure enough, doncha know? leftofcool Aug 2017 #164

Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #73

+1,000 58Sunliner Aug 2017 #83

Edit: I thought you quoted from the link JHan Aug 2017 #89

I find your points to be ridiculous Tumbulu Aug 2017 #96

"we must play the game"-Really? It's playtime people. 58Sunliner Aug 2017 #82

Well, voter fraud isn't a problem, voter suppression is. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #87

Voter fraud is voter purging, etc... 58Sunliner Aug 2017 #116

Voter fraud is fraud perpetuated by voters. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #125

Voter fraud is also perpetrated against voters. 58Sunliner Aug 2017 #131

No, it's not, because words have meaning. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #140

I meant electoral fraud. Yes words do matter. And so does jumping to conclusions. 58Sunliner Aug 2017 #180

Yes, I explained that the terminology was incorrect, and I agree leapuing to conclusions is Ninsianna Aug 2017 #189

I don't need a decoder ring. I just have to quote you. 58Sunliner Aug 2017 #192

Sadly that's not working too well as a tactic, since the words don't say what you Ninsianna Aug 2017 #193

No, get your terms right BainsBane Aug 2017 #160

Yes I did use voter fraud when I meant electoral fraud. 58Sunliner Aug 2017 #175

Voter suppression BainsBane Aug 2017 #178

No, I did mean electoral fraud. Feel free to look it up. 58Sunliner Aug 2017 #191

the attacks on Kamala Harris are bullshit... JHan Aug 2017 #93

Reasoned concerns are not bullshit. Gravitycollapse Aug 2017 #95

They are not "reasoned concerns" ... that doesn't fly... JHan Aug 2017 #98

A critique is a critique. Either address the concern or step aside. Gravitycollapse Aug 2017 #100

That's a cute way to misinterpret my post... JHan Aug 2017 #104

Already plenty aware of her current efforts. That doesn't erase her past... Gravitycollapse Aug 2017 #105

Ah yes, beat her up on her "past" .. make her "past" forever relevant.. JHan Aug 2017 #106

If you don't address your mistakes, you're still complicit in them. Gravitycollapse Aug 2017 #107

I doubt you do it for every single candidate.. JHan Aug 2017 #110

I don't care if you doubt my actions. I do it for literally every candidate from the top down. Gravitycollapse Aug 2017 #111

I'm fine with how I assess candidates. JHan Aug 2017 #113

You basically called anyone with concerns with Harris a liar and a troll. Gravitycollapse Aug 2017 #114

I made clear distinctions: JHan Aug 2017 #115

You never made any distinction. You essentially said any criticism was an attack. Gravitycollapse Aug 2017 #117

I specifically mentioned the "NeverKamala" crowd.. JHan Aug 2017 #118

You literally attacked me in every single post. Gravitycollapse Aug 2017 #122

I gave you great advice just now... JHan Aug 2017 #124

I only alert egregious violations because I actually care about discussion this board. Gravitycollapse Aug 2017 #126

Where was this done? Ninsianna Aug 2017 #127

They literally called critics of Harris ratfuckers. Gravitycollapse Aug 2017 #133

Keep trying. JHan Aug 2017 #136

Omg, we are told we must "learn to recognize legitimate concerns" (#103) betsuni Aug 2017 #139

lol. Lol lol to be fair it could have been worse... JHan Aug 2017 #143

Didn't we go down this path just recently? leftofcool Aug 2017 #165

They literally did not , but if you believe they did, please Ninsianna Aug 2017 #141

How about Bernie? BainsBane Aug 2017 #166

gravity collapsed there, finally heaven05 Aug 2017 #181

A candidate for what? BainsBane Aug 2017 #137

+++++++++++ JHan Aug 2017 #138

+1000 nt brer cat Aug 2017 #157

Senators who voted for the 1994 Crime Bill surely must be suspect because of such a history betsuni Aug 2017 #144

Very transparent isn't it? JHan Aug 2017 #145

Very. betsuni Aug 2017 #146

cheers! JHan Aug 2017 #148

You haven't offered a critique BainsBane Aug 2017 #167

"her views on a plethora of issues will be hashed out and debated" melman Aug 2017 #108

Bingo. Gravitycollapse Aug 2017 #109

I read a thread several days ago about civil asset forfeiture ... JHan Aug 2017 #121

What issues? BainsBane Aug 2017 #162

Tolerated by whom??? heaven05 Aug 2017 #187

Indeed, however the attacks on Kamala are not reasoned, they are however Ninsianna Aug 2017 #128

I'm not attacking Harris. I'm critical of her actions. Gravitycollapse Aug 2017 #134

And which actions might those be? Ninsianna Aug 2017 #142

I wanted to ask these question as well. Futile as it is. betsuni Aug 2017 #149

This is getting repetitive. They really need a better gameplan, but I guess they Ninsianna Aug 2017 #151

Which you have said absolutely nothing about. BainsBane Aug 2017 #163

Just some general shit about her past or something.. JHan Aug 2017 #173

There it is. OilemFirchen Aug 2017 #170

What actions? mcar Aug 2017 #183

When did she declare her candidacy? Did I miss that? George II Aug 2017 #129

A candidate for what? JustAnotherGen Aug 2017 #158

straw argument, no politician is "unsullied", period heaven05 Aug 2017 #179

What specific "ratfucking" are you talking about? 58Sunliner Aug 2017 #120

It's a ruse, because Kamala has not announced a run JHan Aug 2017 #130

Kamala can unite the Hillary and Bernie crowds! MoonRiver Aug 2017 #84

I support Kamala Harris yuiyoshida Aug 2017 #86

I love her and attacking her is quite obviously the right wing hate media Tumbulu Aug 2017 #99

Conversely, there will be no party unity unless you learn to recognize legitimate concerns. Gravitycollapse Aug 2017 #103

Only purists and/or trolls would say KH doesn't deserve their vote. Lil Missy Aug 2017 #102

is Harris a "corporate" Dem? as in, one who can raise lots of cash? RussBLib Aug 2017 #132

To be honest, I haven't seen too many direct attacks on her but a lot of folks are just curious why Quixote1818 Aug 2017 #147

I'm not committing my vote to anyone until I see all the Raine Aug 2017 #152

"until citizens united is overturned we must play the game." You think playing by those rules JCanete Aug 2017 #154

She's not a candidate BainsBane Aug 2017 #169

But never winning again will fix everything, right.. onecaliberal Aug 2017 #172

I think our "pragmatism" has gotten us here, which frankly makes it not that pragmatic. JCanete Aug 2017 #185

We are completely and totally fucked now. We don't even know if our votes counted. onecaliberal Aug 2017 #186

that is quite possible, but if that is true, playing the game as it is rigged is certainly not doing JCanete Aug 2017 #188

Neither is voting third party or staying home. Those two options are losers for sure. onecaliberal Aug 2017 #190

It has nothing to do with purity BainsBane Aug 2017 #156

Yes. This, exactly. n/t GoCubsGo Aug 2017 #171

Let's focus on 2018 and yes, there should not be purity tests. LBM20 Aug 2017 #159

Never underestimate the generosity of Turbineguy Aug 2017 #176

This is Just More Misogyny dlk Aug 2017 #177