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Solly Mack

(97,121 posts)
61. I read that. He's right.
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 09:12 PM
Aug 2017

I remember people calling the LGBT community on DU purist and non-pragmatic for wanting equal rights.

It happened. Anyone that denies it either wasn't here or is choosing a revisionist history for whatever reason that motivates their denial of the facts.

I've been here since early days 2001.

I've seen people argue that a woman's right to reproductive health should be left to the states and removed from the national debate because it turns off some voters.


Left to some states, human rights become "bathroom bills", gerrymandering/voter suppression, and women's health clinics getting closed down.

And voting rights are human rights. If you can't vote, then you're left out of the process that determines the laws that govern your other rights.

Yay, us! (Not)

There's nothing purist about the rights of women being protected. Nothing purist about the rights of the LGBT community being protected. Nothing purist about the rights of African-Americans being protected. Nothing purist about the rights of LatinX Americans being protected.

If the protection and support of human rights is to be attacked as purist (and the word is used as a pejorative by many) then I can only surmise that there is an underlying contempt for all human rights being expressed.

A willingness to sell people out to gain the promise, even if not the actual fulfillment, of a win.

Jeff Sessions, along with Trump and the rest, are all too willing to attack human rights. We've heard it from their mouths and we've seen it with their actions.

It's a dangerous time in America to not be white, male, straight, and even Christian. It usually is - by the way - but right now, it's worse.

Being attacked from the outside and from the inside, by supposed allies, doesn't exactly make for a lot of trust.

I know people can hold one view of abortion while still upholding the core values of choice - but then said person would be anti-choice would they? I've read the Democrats for Life site, they aren't about supporting choice as their ultimate goal. So any candidate they supported would be suspect. And no candidate they support should get party dollars/endorsements. As Charles Pierce said, you don't tell them "the party establishment is open for business on this issue."

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and you aren't expected to, but elleng Aug 2017 #1
2008 Rick Santorum verses Bob Casey, 2012 Richard Murdock verses Joe Donnelly for example still_one Aug 2017 #30
Were Dems trying hard for congressional majorities? elleng Aug 2017 #31
Yes? brooklynite Aug 2017 #44
In 2008 they sure were, and I assume the same thing in President Obama's second term 2012 still_one Aug 2017 #54
With you, still_one, elleng Aug 2017 #55
I suspected we would be on the same page. I guess these recent declarations threads are a still_one Aug 2017 #56
Same here. They can be personally pro-life all they want but if they 50 Shades Of Blue Aug 2017 #2
I guess you didn't notice the 5 or 6 other threads on this same issue... SharonClark Aug 2017 #3
Five or six? BannonsLiver Aug 2017 #4
Who is that? boston bean Aug 2017 #19
A deeply original DU thread nt taught_me_patience Aug 2017 #5
This happens all the time with every topic. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #40
Reproductive rights Lunabell Aug 2017 #6
And neither are negotiable. hamsterjill Aug 2017 #14
Yes. Lunabell Aug 2017 #34
Just to be clear: "Reproductive rights" means *CHOICE* UTUSN Aug 2017 #7
I don't think I could either, but just until we get some power back, I'm not going to Squinch Aug 2017 #8
Then abstain and let the Republican win. Binkie The Clown Aug 2017 #9
So, are you ok with women losing the right to choose, MoonRiver Aug 2017 #48
I didn't say that, did I? Binkie The Clown Aug 2017 #50
Where is the evidence that officially signaling a willingness to entertain pro-life candidates.. JHan Aug 2017 #53
It's not only about reproductive rights. Solly Mack Aug 2017 #10
This really should be its own OP! hrmjustin Aug 2017 #11
I've said that so many times in my life I've lost count. Solly Mack Aug 2017 #12
+ 1 musette_sf Aug 2017 #13
Thank you. Solly Mack Aug 2017 #39
as one of my favorite latter-day pundits (Charles Pierce) said, musette_sf Aug 2017 #60
I read that. He's right. Solly Mack Aug 2017 #61
Thank you ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #23
Amen, sister. brer cat Aug 2017 #24
It is. Solly Mack Aug 2017 #38
I can't find the dang LIKE button! Kali Aug 2017 #26
I hate it when that happens. (not finding the like button when I need it) Solly Mack Aug 2017 #37
This! All of this!!! bettyellen Aug 2017 #27
Especially the last part. :) Solly Mack Aug 2017 #36
Bravo! smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #41
Thank you Solly Mack Aug 2017 #42
This is the best post I've read in a long time. MrsCoffee Aug 2017 #43
I won't go quietly. None of us will. Solly Mack Aug 2017 #45
Did vote for Obama in 2008, when he was expressly opposed to same gender marriage? Ms. Toad Aug 2017 #15
I did and I voted for him expecting that eventually he would change his opinion. hrmjustin Aug 2017 #16
Then why the absolute standard on abortion rights? Ms. Toad Aug 2017 #47
The choice issue at the national level is older than the same gender marriage issue. Foamfollower Aug 2017 #18
I don't believe either isssue, in isolation, is reason to stay home from the voting booth Ms. Toad Aug 2017 #49
As was pointed out to me, the anti-choice people refused to vote for anybody wh was not anti-choice. Foamfollower Aug 2017 #17
Good point! wryter2000 Aug 2017 #57
Choice is not negotiable. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #20
agreed Yates Amatitio Aug 2017 #21
I don't know that I could either bhikkhu Aug 2017 #22
Same here. BigDemVoter Aug 2017 #25
curious, are you in red or swing state? still_one Aug 2017 #28
Me neither. It would be like voting for slavery in the 1850s, just couldn't do it. Warpy Aug 2017 #29
Were you a Bernie or Bust as well ? OnDoutside Aug 2017 #32
But what if you were in a state like Louisiana? Willie Pep Aug 2017 #33
This is a very important point SHRED Aug 2017 #52
And we all need to work hard to make sure JNelson6563 Aug 2017 #35
The big issue is more important BSdetect Aug 2017 #46
i can see them not personally supporting it but if they promise.... samnsara Aug 2017 #51
I'm with you on this issue. Voltaire2 Aug 2017 #58
I doubt you will ever have to even consider it. MineralMan Aug 2017 #59
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