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Coventina

(27,244 posts) Mon Aug 7, 2017, 03:56 PM Aug 2017

I'm seriously considering letting my subscription to "The Nation" lapse. [View all]

I'm getting really tired of their pro-Russia stance.

I mean, I get it, to an extent.

I don't think "the Russians" are our enemy. But Putin most definitely is. And, until he is gone, we cannot treat Russia as a friend.

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I'm seriously considering letting my subscription to "The Nation" lapse. [View all] Coventina Aug 2017 OP

The Nation editorial staff has quite a bit of overlap with pro-Putin think tanks like geek tragedy Aug 2017 #1

What articles have you been reading there to come up with your post heading? Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #2

In the issue I received in the mail today: Coventina Aug 2017 #3

+1 Me. Aug 2017 #4

I got a completely opposite perspective on the Realism on Russia opinion piece... Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #5

+1 leftstreet Aug 2017 #7

What were proposed solutions? Adrahil Aug 2017 #11

Duplicitous at best, we must work with Russia on solutions on how to punish Russia?! WTF ?! uponit7771 Aug 2017 #30

LOL..."diplomatic solutions" Maven Aug 2017 #76

Her husband is a Russophile/Putinite BannonsLiver Aug 2017 #8

His infllunce is the reason I don't read the Nation anymore and also (I think) why Katrina V isn't hlthe2b Aug 2017 #10

You might be on to something. BannonsLiver Aug 2017 #12

+1 dalton99a Aug 2017 #20

Same. Bonx Aug 2017 #6

I've always liked Katrina V., but her husband is a Russiophile and Putin apologist It pains me. hlthe2b Aug 2017 #9

Their Putin humping is completely unbelievable alcibiades_mystery Aug 2017 #13

Here is a quote from the article... Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #16

But then she turns around and says we shouldn't impose sanctions or Coventina Aug 2017 #18

Yes, level headed smart deeper thinkers know that lashing out is not the best way... Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #21

So you disagree with the action Obama took? He was "lashing out"? Coventina Aug 2017 #23

"I find it disturbing that you are apologizing for Putin" - WHAT A BUNCH OF BULL... Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #24

I was asking because Obama put sanctions on Russia because Putin Coventina Aug 2017 #25

Do you know what nuance is? Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #28

OK, so you agree that the sanctions were good. Coventina Aug 2017 #31

Again nuance... Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #34

Obama also imposed sanctions. Coventina Aug 2017 #38

What sanctions did Obama 'also' imposed? Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #42

CNN link here: Coventina Aug 2017 #45

Yes, that's what I have been talking about... Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #46

What? I'm asking you if you agree with the sanctions or not. Coventina Aug 2017 #47

Even if we left it unsafe doesn't mean "we left the door open" for him ... what the?! Come on uponit7771 Aug 2017 #33

"we left the door open" for him" - really? Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #39

so that means its OK for them to take their illegal actions in regards to our elections?!?! Trying uponit7771 Aug 2017 #41

You are welcome... Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #43

How are the sanctions "lashing out" ... thx in advance uponit7771 Aug 2017 #32

I suggest reading newspapers... your answers are there... Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #36

The Russian ones is where I saw the sanctions were lashing out, could you point to an American ... uponit7771 Aug 2017 #37

I'd avoid any substantive answers also LanternWaste Aug 2017 #56

Sometimes, no answer is good enough when the person has an agenda... Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #58

+1 bluepen Aug 2017 #68

If you do a search for Russia sanctions lapucelle Aug 2017 #53

A bit of victim blaming there no? TeamPooka Aug 2017 #66

No... Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #67

Putin denies the allegations with a shit-eating grin on his face. Adrahil Aug 2017 #92

Except she also says we should suck up to Russia and pretend it never happened geek tragedy Aug 2017 #19

Nope, she did not say that... Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #22

She recommends we unilaterally pursue better geek tragedy Aug 2017 #52

You won't get a straight answer. Coventina Aug 2017 #55

I lasted 6 months bluedye33139 Aug 2017 #14

Did you read Katha Pollitt's article on abortion rights in the last issue? guillaumeb Aug 2017 #15

Kathy Politt is the one bright spot left. Coventina Aug 2017 #17

I agree TEB Aug 2017 #26

I already made that choice...Kind of feel like I was scammed... FarPoint Aug 2017 #27

It's really a shame. Coventina Aug 2017 #29

The Nation has such an illustrious history. LenaBaby61 Aug 2017 #50

Exactly... FarPoint Aug 2017 #54

I did, long ago. Duppers Aug 2017 #35

I started subscribing in 2011 Coventina Aug 2017 #40

You definitely are. Duppers Aug 2017 #48

Good Lord! Thank you for that! Appalling! Coventina Aug 2017 #49

They jumped the shark BainsBane Aug 2017 #44

You are not the only one I have heard that from. Me?i think I have read one copy in my life lunasun Aug 2017 #51

Putin is desperate to get the sanctions lifted. It's worth billions to him. yardwork Aug 2017 #57

Bill Browder said Putin gets half of whatever Gabi Hayes Aug 2017 #64

I took the liberty of passing this whole thread on to Katrina. DFW Aug 2017 #59

That should be an interesting response! Trial_By_Fire Aug 2017 #60

I promise I will read it with an open mind. Coventina Aug 2017 #61

I'm sure that is all she ever expects. DFW Aug 2017 #63

Here is the response from Kartina vanden Heuvel, editor of The Nation DFW Aug 2017 #62

First, please convey my heartfelt thanks to Ms. vanden Heuvel for taking the time Coventina Aug 2017 #65

I can confirm that her schedule is, as you so aptly put it, "incredibly packed." DFW Aug 2017 #70

So cool!!! Coventina Aug 2017 #71

I pale in the company of some impressive friends DFW Aug 2017 #72

Haha! And humble as well! Coventina Aug 2017 #74

Bringing a smile DFW Aug 2017 #77

How does she explian publishing the work of Seth Rich troofers? Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2017 #78

I have no clue who Seth Rich is DFW Aug 2017 #79

FOX-style questions? Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2017 #80

Not good enough BainsBane Aug 2017 #83

why would we treat her as adjunct to her Putin-fluffing hubby's views? geek tragedy Aug 2017 #85

Thank you for your efforts, DFW... countryjake Aug 2017 #87

Thank You for posting this..... Thank Katrina as well :) Kathy M Aug 2017 #88

The right wing wrap themselves in the flag and and salute when they want to bamboozle people MiddleClass Aug 2017 #90

Thanks underpants Aug 2017 #91

I canceled mine when they put an ad for O'Reilly on the back cover Generic Other Aug 2017 #69

Well, I'm quite thrilled about the return of McCarthyism! Kurovski Aug 2017 #73

Two-tone wing tips never went away!! Coventina Aug 2017 #75

Is that what Robert Mueller's investigation is about Duppers Aug 2017 #81

Jeez, I thought the "It's so McCarthyist" talking point was retired in early June alcibiades_mystery Aug 2017 #84

Remember, Russia plays the long game. Katrina and hubby long-time Russian bots? haveahart Aug 2017 #82

she is 100% in the tank for Putin, was so explicitly when Obama was President geek tragedy Aug 2017 #86

I stopped reading that rag years ago. n/t Downtown Hound Aug 2017 #89