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lapucelle

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120. Of course people are "concerned".

Mon Aug 7, 2017, 08:22 PM

Aug 2017

The question is why?

https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/attorney-general-kamala-d-harris-urges-federal-courts-protect-transgender

http://www.latimes.com/local/politics/la-me-0326-anti-gay-initiative-20150326-story.html

http://www.emilyslist.org/news/entry/lgbt-weekly-equality-california-endorses-kamala-harris-for-u.s.-senate

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2015/06/california-attorney-general-moves-to-dismiss-kill-the-gays-ballot-measure/

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/tag/kamala-harris/page/2/

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2011/05/california-ag-tells-court-that-prop-8-supporters-do-not-have-standing-to-appeal/

https://www.advocate.com/search/site/kamala%20harris

https://www.advocate.com/politics/2017/6/08/kamala-harris-emerges-dem-star-during-senate-hearings

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According to voting record, the top 10 most progressive members of the Senate. [View all] pnwmom Aug 2017 OP

So Harris is more progressive than Sanders? nycbos Aug 2017 #1

Sanders is number 11, but #s 1-10 are just a little higher. Still, if his votes pnwmom Aug 2017 #2

Well, WEll, Well Me. Aug 2017 #101

That is certainly interesting. I wonder how the fringe left will explain away this ranking. LonePirate Aug 2017 #5

A neoliberal conspiracy to make Sanders look bad? nycbos Aug 2017 #12

Whatever they do, they won't blame it on Russian bots & planted social media. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #59

The "fringe left" comment is really not necessary hueymahl Aug 2017 #68

The fringe left (those who voted Stein and the JPR types) are not friends of the Democratic Party. LonePirate Aug 2017 #77

Those that voted for Stein..... tiredtoo Aug 2017 #89

I can agree with that. NT hueymahl Aug 2017 #128

Hear hear! moda253 Aug 2017 #109

Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #78

How many of "them" do you think there are? guillaumeb Aug 2017 #15

Enough to cost the election. nycbos Aug 2017 #28

What caused 45% of voters to NOT vote? guillaumeb Aug 2017 #49

OF course. nycbos Aug 2017 #56

Harris has a 98% and Sanders has a 95%. The differences among the top 20 in that list are trivial. phleshdef Aug 2017 #29

I agree however the far left has been going after Harris for awhile. nycbos Aug 2017 #30

Yea, we have our dickheads over on our side too. Thats just life. phleshdef Aug 2017 #33

But of those who do we hear about? Sanders more than the rest Blue_Adept Aug 2017 #45

Bernie has built a solid following along with a strong media presence. phleshdef Aug 2017 #52

the claim is deceptive. This is only determining how often you voted party line when most JCanete Aug 2017 #91

Yes indeed. elleng Aug 2017 #97

Progressive seta1950 Aug 2017 #50

Facts? Based on voting record that started in January OF THIS YEAR? alarimer Aug 2017 #67

The data is pretty comprehensive. lapucelle Aug 2017 #113

Yay Massachusetts! smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #3

Yes they do, smirkymonkey! sheshe2 Aug 2017 #6

Hi Sheshe! smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #11

I'm good thanks. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #19

Yes, it is. Today is nice though. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #20

Yes, they do. bluescribbler Aug 2017 #61

Chris Van Hollen 2020! leftstreet Aug 2017 #4

He's my senator, and he's great! NastyRiffraff Aug 2017 #48

I think you meant to say that he was elected to the Senate in 2016, not 2012. StevieM Aug 2017 #83

Doh! Yes I did NastyRiffraff Aug 2017 #112

+1! BlueMTexpat Aug 2017 #94

Prolly not run for Pres because elleng Aug 2017 #98

Why would that preclude him from running for President? mcar Aug 2017 #117

Not born in the U.S. elleng Aug 2017 #118

Neither was John McCain mcar Aug 2017 #119

With McCain, issue wasn't raised. elleng Aug 2017 #121

Perhaps it will by the right mcar Aug 2017 #122

I am not disqualifying anyone, elleng Aug 2017 #123

It is no issue at all. Ted Cruz was born in Canada. kwassa Aug 2017 #127

That's an Interesting list ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #7

Right. And look at the difference between the lowest scoring Dems and the highest scoring R. pnwmom Aug 2017 #9

Yeah it is ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #16

Giving proof to the statement that any Democrat is better than any republican. Salviati Aug 2017 #21

Your statement is what sane and rational joshdawg Aug 2017 #60

I wish my Senators were different.. cannabis_flower Aug 2017 #64

I See 14 and 20 For Illinois ProfessorGAC Aug 2017 #71

KnR sheshe2 Aug 2017 #8

KNR Thank you! Lucinda Aug 2017 #10

Kind of. It's really a measure of cohort voting where the cohort is defined by a webapage aikoaiko Aug 2017 #13

You can look at the votes that they used in the ranking. They're being transparent. nt pnwmom Aug 2017 #18

Yes their algorithm and the votes are transparent. aikoaiko Aug 2017 #24

And it makes sense. OilemFirchen Aug 2017 #31

One hopes that we all agree that there can be no perfect office holder. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #14

I'm reminded of another list that had Schumer listed as the most progressive. LOL Garrett78 Aug 2017 #17

Harris has only been there six months marylandblue Aug 2017 #22

Apples and oranges. There is no way to compare a record as state prosecutor and US Senator. n/t pnwmom Aug 2017 #23

Attorneys General don't vote on legislation. George II Aug 2017 #40

Kristen Gillebrand NewJeffCT Aug 2017 #70

Gillibrand was one of 5 senators, along with Markey and Warren of Massachusetts and StevieM Aug 2017 #84

Gillebrand first impressed me NewJeffCT Aug 2017 #86

Here's the comparison for votes this year only. lapucelle Aug 2017 #114

Interesting to note the imperfect record on abortion for a number of A-, and B-rated progressives, Ms. Toad Aug 2017 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author Johnyawl Aug 2017 #32

Same site. Ms. Toad Aug 2017 #34

Thanks Ms Toad! Johnyawl Aug 2017 #36

Welcome. Ms. Toad Aug 2017 #58

Here are the stats on the OP's link. lapucelle Aug 2017 #115

No one is perfect on every issue. George II Aug 2017 #41

That's precisely my point. n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2017 #44

Durbin's, Feinstein's long term rating is 96.88 yet someone like Warren, OR Ted Cruz is N/A. lunasun Aug 2017 #55

I didn't check those two - but if they are N/A, they didn't vote on the bills being tracked. Ms. Toad Aug 2017 #57

Kamala Harris more liberal than EVERYBODY but one person? Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #26

I wonder if the site owners are aware of this ranking. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #38

Wait, really? HarmonyRockets Aug 2017 #111

So let's just look at votes from this year. lapucelle Aug 2017 #116

Harris and Booker right in there mcar Aug 2017 #27

So... tell me again... why do the haters hate her so much? (What's to hate?) NurseJackie Aug 2017 #37

Must be something but I haven't seen an actual reason mcar Aug 2017 #46

I've heard both Booker and Harris NewJeffCT Aug 2017 #72

There are some very bitter and petty people out there. It's sad that... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #75

Refusing to prosecute Steve Mnuchin, being anti-trans HarmonyRockets Aug 2017 #110

Of course people are "concerned". lapucelle Aug 2017 #120

And Sherrod Brown is the only one from a GOP LEANING state. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #35

I like him a lot. I think we could have been in WH if he had Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2017 #92

+1,000. HughBeaumont Aug 2017 #129

What helps is that the person running against him is disliked even by Ohio's Repubs. HughBeaumont Aug 2017 #95

I see three potential Presidential candidates in the top five. George II Aug 2017 #39

Here are some other sites that have it completely different Quixote1818 Aug 2017 #42

Sanders has a less than perfect record on gun issues, for one thing. pnwmom Aug 2017 #53

Those rankings come from 2015 and from March 2016 and January 20, 2017. pnwmom Aug 2017 #54

True but someone posted from that site last year and it had Booker near the top Quixote1818 Aug 2017 #88

Progressive Punch lists all the votes that they used to come up with their numbers, pnwmom Aug 2017 #90

Here's his full report card. lapucelle Aug 2017 #124

Excellent! Thank you. betsuni Aug 2017 #43

They all have my vote. Merkley of Oregon?? Hulk Aug 2017 #47

Click on the provided link. n/t retread Aug 2017 #62

I'm actually shocked that Jack Reed..no relation... Docreed2003 Aug 2017 #51

He HAS been, elleng Aug 2017 #99

K&R stonecutter357 Aug 2017 #63

Kamala Harris #2 Bladewire Aug 2017 #65

Harris and Van Hollen have been Senators for less than a year alarimer Aug 2017 #66

This page details the methodology. lapucelle Aug 2017 #125

I have difficulty believing the divisivness regarding so-called liberal fringe, etc. is... TryLogic Aug 2017 #69

I suspect it too. elleng Aug 2017 #100

I knew My Sen, -Tammy Baldwing would be on that list. My other one is a vile Tea bagger-Ron Johnson riversedge Aug 2017 #73

Tammy Baldwin's also my senator Heartstrings Aug 2017 #74

Thanks for this. nt lillypaddle Aug 2017 #76

Thanks for sharing..... ciaobaby Aug 2017 #79

And yet someone like Tim Kaine with his "F' is still 50 points more progressive pnwmom Aug 2017 #80

Good to see Al Franken at number 6. warmfeet Aug 2017 #81

Take note all the people here who hate on Corey Booker as being too much of a sellout MrPurple Aug 2017 #82

Well, this certainly shatters a lot of the misleading myths we've R B Garr Aug 2017 #85

it's a bullshit claim based on metrics that don't prove this at all. They show how often somebody JCanete Aug 2017 #93

Of the major parties, Democratic party IS the progressive party. I hesitate to even use the word pnwmom Aug 2017 #103

refer to my other post about why this is problematic. nt JCanete Aug 2017 #104

I have. And it's wrong, as I explained. n/t pnwmom Aug 2017 #105

Not again. The problem with this, as I mentioned before when this was posted, is the way JCanete Aug 2017 #87

The problem with your point of view is that terms like "progressive" are always relative. pnwmom Aug 2017 #102

none of what you said justifies the methodology for determining a "progressive" record. I have JCanete Aug 2017 #106

If you have particular votes to complain about, then do so. pnwmom Aug 2017 #107

fine, you want me to painstakingly do that so that you don't take this at face-value. I'm happy to JCanete Aug 2017 #108

NO darn it pnwmom!!! Caliman73 Aug 2017 #96

Well, hell then, let's run Chris Van Hollen. I've always liked him. Zen Democrat Aug 2017 #126