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ChubbyStar

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82. Betty didn't say "shut down' she said "shout down."

Reply to TeacherB87 (Reply #58)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 03:17 PM

Aug 2017

Maybe you need to read what she said again. Because reading is important.

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Google Fires Engineer Who Wrote Memo Questioning Women in Tech [View all] steve2470 Aug 2017 OP

In before "by firing him they proved his point!" WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #1

I would argue... tonedevil Aug 2017 #12

Excuse me, "by firing him they proved his point"? What point was that? That he is a sexist still_one Aug 2017 #78

The poster said 'In before'. It's kind of a shorthand forum meme that... Shandris Aug 2017 #123

Thanks for explaining it to me, which is why I asked the question regarding its meaning still_one Aug 2017 #126

I received a BS in Computer Information Sciences in 1987 Phoenix61 Aug 2017 #2

Many women are still discouraged from STEM careers. Adrahil Aug 2017 #3

Science is part of STEM TeacherB87 Aug 2017 #10

Important enough because it bolstered his conservative ideology though? His bias bettyellen Aug 2017 #18

Literally nothing you just said is factually accurate. TeacherB87 Aug 2017 #21

Factually- he's politically conservative and thinks Google is biased toward liberals.... bettyellen Aug 2017 #26

Right, so you get to assume he's conservative because he isn't a leftist. And I didn't read TeacherB87 Aug 2017 #33

So you're still defending something you didn't read because... that's good enough? Nope. Go away. bettyellen Aug 2017 #40

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Quote: "I didn't read the document" and if you didn't realize he IS conservative and upset by the bettyellen Aug 2017 #48

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So apparently... your all sciency and stuff, so.... Adrahil Aug 2017 #60

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Perhaps you need to edit for clarity because you're ordering me not to read the research, genius. bettyellen Aug 2017 #77

He literally says... Adrahil Aug 2017 #79

but if you're saying spiderman17 Aug 2017 #71

Epigenetics.... Adrahil Aug 2017 #114

ok but spiderman17 Aug 2017 #115

Not a conservative? Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2017 #53

"Viewpoint diversity is arguably the most important type" says the guy who would benefit from it - bettyellen Aug 2017 #63

Indeed, and his loneliness and alienation due to his Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2017 #65

I could sense his anger and sadness clouding his vision. He's on a quest to prove to us all... bettyellen Aug 2017 #69

they just hate it when they cannot be openly racist and sexist Skittles Aug 2017 #124

Yep, everyone should just think the same way about everything. TeacherB87 Aug 2017 #70

So now that you know he's a conservative, you take a different tack. By claiming I said things I did bettyellen Aug 2017 #84

In some areas yes, we should... we shouldn't have half of us thinking cold blooded murder is ok and uponit7771 Aug 2017 #116

Well, the text of that document you failed to read might have given you a clue. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #107

I read that memo.... it wasn't exactly scientific. Adrahil Aug 2017 #20

Lol is that a direct quote? TeacherB87 Aug 2017 #23

Scott Adams, is that you? Adrahil Aug 2017 #30

Nope on all counts. lol TeacherB87 Aug 2017 #37

He didn't even read the "manifesto" or know it was a defense of his conservative ideology, LOL. bettyellen Aug 2017 #43

Nothing says "ignorance" TeacherB87 Aug 2017 #58

1) you weren't aware he self identifies as conservative. 2) you said you "didn't read the document" bettyellen Aug 2017 #66

Betty didn't say "shut down' she said "shout down." ChubbyStar Aug 2017 #82

Sea Lions, man. sweetloukillbot Aug 2017 #57

+1, and most MRA's remind me of the bro types ... whoa is the privileged uponit7771 Aug 2017 #117

Why are you defending what seems to be a far right-winger? rockfordfile Aug 2017 #72

Two guesses. demmiblue Aug 2017 #74

Bada Bing Bada BOOM! ChubbyStar Aug 2017 #86

Well, he's thrown out terms like "leftists" and "liberal elite"... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2017 #87

I was laughing so hard at those posts ChubbyStar Aug 2017 #94

OTOH lapfog_1 Aug 2017 #101

I earned mine in '92 nini Aug 2017 #132

Late 'seventies every engineering class I took had one or two women at most... hunter Aug 2017 #135

Totally misleading article. TeacherB87 Aug 2017 #4

Yes, exactly. DavidDvorkin Aug 2017 #5

His 'research' led him to conclude really dumbshit things leftstreet Aug 2017 #8

Did you read his memo? TeacherB87 Aug 2017 #9

He loves to talk about 'prenatal testosterone' and 'castration' leftstreet Aug 2017 #11

Does that mean you love to talk about "crap"? TeacherB87 Aug 2017 #15

?? This makes no sense n/t leftstreet Aug 2017 #19

You said he loves talking about TeacherB87 Aug 2017 #25

Oh, and Communism! He fucking hates Communism! leftstreet Aug 2017 #44

He weird thing is he thinks he's being "logical" but betrays so much fear and anger... bettyellen Aug 2017 #49

That makes no sense, LOL. His manifesto is based on crap though- so you're on to something. bettyellen Aug 2017 #32

I however, will assume you are rationalizing his memo intentionally LanternWaste Aug 2017 #16

Thank you. B2G Aug 2017 #14

I read that memo.... Adrahil Aug 2017 #24

Utter bullshit. mythology Aug 2017 #27

No he isn't TeacherB87 Aug 2017 #28

Enjoy your stay. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2017 #31

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PROJECTION! Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2017 #45

Here is how he is a misogynist. kwassa Aug 2017 #61

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THEY ARE NOT FUCKING FACTS! Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2017 #67

Saying it doesn't make it true... TeacherB87 Aug 2017 #76

You're right. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2017 #80

I have no obligation to convince you. Damore's statements are not facts because you claim them to be kwassa Aug 2017 #73

Nope TeacherB87 Aug 2017 #75

You have no defense, except declaring others wrong. kwassa Aug 2017 #92

If this person is actually a teacher, I weep for his/her students. n/t alarimer Aug 2017 #131

Wow. Way to defend a straight up misogynist. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2017 #29

Way to dilute misogyny through overuse TeacherB87 Aug 2017 #36

And your bloviating that this guy is right makes you look like... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2017 #41

Thanks for the condescension! TeacherB87 Aug 2017 #52

Liberal elitism? Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2017 #55

Now you have showed yourself rockfordfile Aug 2017 #81

this guy spiderman17 Aug 2017 #54

Actually, the guy I posted disagrees COMPLETELY with the manifesto, Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2017 #56

he agrees with the original premise spiderman17 Aug 2017 #83

There's a LOT more nuance to it than that. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2017 #85

well let's see what he wrote spiderman17 Aug 2017 #95

You're ignoring context. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2017 #118

if he said the same about black people Skittles Aug 2017 #122

That's a damned charitable interpretation... Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #103

Flagged. tenderfoot Aug 2017 #112

Not to worry, your boy Julian is coming to the rescue: Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #127

This message was self-deleted by its author steve2470 Aug 2017 #6

Please delete this link. Cernovich is an alt-right propogandist. kwassa Aug 2017 #47

ok nt steve2470 Aug 2017 #59

that women spiderman17 Aug 2017 #7

You'll of course, point to objective, peer-reviewed data to support your premise, yes? LanternWaste Aug 2017 #17

There are a ton, but you can start here. B2G Aug 2017 #34

here you go spiderman17 Aug 2017 #35

Extrapolating on that bit of data gave us Trump because men just aren't as hot headed.... bettyellen Aug 2017 #22

The whole idea of "neuroticism" was invented by a misogynist. Coventina Aug 2017 #38

if that is true spiderman17 Aug 2017 #46

it's junk science. Freud's theories are just that: theories Coventina Aug 2017 #50

oh spiderman17 Aug 2017 #90

Schizophrenia can be medically diagnosed with brain scans. Coventina Aug 2017 #91

Schizophrenia spiderman17 Aug 2017 #96

So are a lot of diseases. Coventina Aug 2017 #97

LOL Skittles Aug 2017 #98

LOL! I just love how you cut to the chase, Skittles Coventina Aug 2017 #99

Thing of beauty ChubbyStar Aug 2017 #106

Tip o the hat to you, Skittles. DLevine Aug 2017 #109

This. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2017 #119

Junk science going the way of "women are more emotional" which left out anger, an emotion.... bettyellen Aug 2017 #100

You may only find more entitled white men in a Catholic archdiocese. Orsino Aug 2017 #13

WHO IS JAMES DAMORE? ALT-RIGHT FURIOUS AFTER GOOGLE FIRES ENGINEER OVER ANTI-DIVERSITY MEMO steve2470 Aug 2017 #51

A sad and lonely young man, obvs. Looking for reasons to justify his worth. bettyellen Aug 2017 #88

No Ph.D. ChubbyStar Aug 2017 #102

He will likely become a right-wing martyr and hero now. Willie Pep Aug 2017 #121

sincere apologies to the forum for the Cernovich link steve2470 Aug 2017 #89

He's a major vector for Tweeting Russian propaganda to American Alt Righties bettyellen Aug 2017 #110

ah thanks for info!! nt steve2470 Aug 2017 #111

There's been talk lately he is "over" Trump but I don't trust much of the palace intrigue stuff. bettyellen Aug 2017 #113

I would have fired him for disseminating policy HeartachesNhangovers Aug 2017 #93

Before the braying of "free speech!" DonCoquixote Aug 2017 #104

The way I saw it on TV was he said women do not handle stress as well as men. Doreen Aug 2017 #105

Being a twerp is really hard ChubbyStar Aug 2017 #108

Bravo The Mouth Aug 2017 #120

Who cares? Private company. WinkyDink Aug 2017 #125

This is my take as well, but other people don't think so. apnu Aug 2017 #128

I'm a Hispanic Female programmer TNLib Aug 2017 #129

I'm glad to hear they get resolved kwassa Aug 2017 #133

Good, it would have happened sooner had he posted a racist memo. alarimer Aug 2017 #130

Basically, James Damore's memo can be broken down rusty fender Aug 2017 #134