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mreilly

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Thu Aug 10, 2017, 06:09 PM Aug 2017

Lunch with a Trump fan [View all]

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Had lunch with a Trump supporting friend today. What I'm about to tell you is not based on the desire to vent, but to illustrate what we're up against.

According to my illustrious friend:

Trump is doing a wonderful job and anyone or anything which indicates otherwise is just fake news.

Trump is draining the swamp.

The stock market is booming thanks to Trump (oh, but if it tanks I can guarantee we can cue the moaning about Obama from this crowd in 3, 2, 1....)

Nobody anywhere has any valid reason to oppose or dislike Trump, period. Not possible. Nope.

Nobody has ever proven Trump is a racist.

Nobody has ever proven Trump is a crook, and never mind all the contractors he stiffed (they deserved it) the suckers bilked via Trump university (he had no knowledge of it) or the shady business deals (that's just being a good businessman).

Trump being photographed with LGBT folks during the campaign last year proves he's on their side and there's just no chance he was trying to court them solely to get their vote.

The allegations of sexual assault against Trump were just lies from people paid off by the Democrats.

Trump bragging about grabbing women by the genitalia was just "locker room talk." Guarantee if it hadn't been caught on tape he would have claimed it was just bullshit, period.

Even if Trump was a philanderer or a sexual assaulter that's just fine because Bill Clinton Bill Clinton Bill Clinton Bill Clinton Bill Clinton Bill Clinton Bill Clinton Bill Clinton Bill Clinton Bill Clinton Bill Clinton Bill Clinton Bill Clinton Bill Clinton Bill Clinton, so apparently Trump can do whatever the hell he likes including rape and abuse women and that's OK. I told him: "Bill Clinton's affair was consensual. Trump grabbing women by the genitalia is definitely NOT consensual." No difference.

Putting his children into positions of power for which they are unqualified is perfectly fine.

Bragging about not paying taxes is just fine because that's what smart business people do. Never mind the fact we're left to pay our fair share while Trump gloats how smart it is not to pay taxes (guess that makes us suckers).

Not releasing his tax returns is perfectly fine and there's just no chance he is hiding something. Hillary didn't release hers either ("Yes she did," I said. "Google it on your phone right now." He made no attempt to do so, and had I done it for him he'd have just insisted it was fake news).

CNN is 100% liberal and anti-Trump, and only reports mean things about him since they hate him. If he saved a puppy from being run over by a garbage truck they'd refuse to report that.

Launching a war against North Korea is just fine because Kim Jong-un is crazy and deserves it.

The allegations of Russian collusion are all propaganda, but oh, let's go investigate Hillary again even though she was cleared time and time again, because clearly the investigations were rigged.

Trump's behavior is not that of a sniveling little toddler throwing a fit because he can't have ice cream for dinner, but is perfectly statesmanlike and gentlemanly.

When my friend started in with the horseshit about the Clintons murdering people I just rolled my eyes and said: "OK, enough is enough. Change the fucking channel. We're talking about the weather now."

I tell you this not to enrage you but to show you that we're up against people with an entire alternative universe carefully rigged so that their version of reality is the only one that exists. All evidence that contradicts their beliefs is dismissed as fake or a smear campaign. Anyone promoting any such evidence is dismissed as "a biased liberal spreading lies" even if they have been respected Republicans for decades. If Trump is shown to have been guilty of crimes associated with the Russians or elsewhere they simply will never believe it.

I was going to ask my friend: "What would it take for you to realize that Trump is a liar, a crook, and a sick old pervert?" I didn't bother because I knew the answer already: "Nothing. It's not possible." Unemployment soars? Obama's fault. The economy tanks? Obama's fault. Los Angeles gets nuked by North Korea? Obama's fault. Obama's fault. Obama's fault. Obama's fault. And if all else fails, "Well, crooked Killary would still have been worse."

This is why Trump's approval rating will never fall below 30%. And he knows if he plays the victim to his base they'll just eat it up. If he gets removed from power they'll go to their graves insisting it was a frame-up by sore losers.

It would be easy to just dismiss my friend as just an idiot or an asshole, but he's neither one. He's an otherwise smart guy who has personally gone to bat for me many times, and I suppose he sees me as "one of the few decent left-leaning types," probably because I like meat, guns and sports and don't drink lattes or drive a Volvo so that must make me a real American. I feel outraged for his being brainwashed by these disgusting media outlets who insist it's everyone ELSE doing the brainwashing.

So if you're wasting time trying to reach these people, don't. Focus on the undecided who outnumber them by 3-1. And take my advice, when they start in on politics just roll your eyes and tell them to "Change the fucking channel." Literally and metaphorically, because Fox News is a cancer of the brain.

Oh, and by the way, you know why I let my friend ramble on as long as I did? Because he was buying the lunch AND the beers!

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Lunch with a Trump fan [View all] mreilly Aug 2017 OP
not impressed. drray23 Aug 2017 #1
100% agree with you on this, / StopTheNeoCons Aug 2017 #21
Agree fully!!! nt jrthin Aug 2017 #29
"Not impressed." LenaBaby61 Aug 2017 #51
I'm with you. Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2017 #61
Please just link to pics like murder of innocent creatures Gabi Hayes Aug 2017 #62
Please just link to pics like murder of innocent creatures. LenaBaby61 Aug 2017 #65
judge much? ProfessorPlum Aug 2017 #69
No friend is worth that Vetteguy Aug 2017 #2
Maybe it was really good beer? gratuitous Aug 2017 #11
Vetteguy, 100% agree with you StopTheNeoCons Aug 2017 #22
Sorry - To Listen to that Shit packman Aug 2017 #3
Sorry, but I have murielm99 Aug 2017 #4
And I'm sure there were a lot of Nazis that were otherwise nice intelligent people, AJT Aug 2017 #5
I Couldn't Do It Leith Aug 2017 #6
You can't reason with those who believe we are the one who are brainwashed and out of touch with Glimmer of Hope Aug 2017 #7
Thank you for posting this... PoiBoy Aug 2017 #8
He was buying, and it was way, way too expensive . . . hatrack Aug 2017 #9
What I've said for a long time wryter2000 Aug 2017 #10
Here you go not fooled Aug 2017 #33
Thanks wryter2000 Aug 2017 #39
No friend I have ever had would hold those views and still count me as "friend"... Moostache Aug 2017 #12
I don't think my stomach could take it. Don't know how you could eat lunch. sinkingfeeling Aug 2017 #13
The one Trump supporting friend I had doesn't call me anymore, and I'm fine with that Downtown Hound Aug 2017 #14
I'm done with them too. They want Nuclear War nt maryellen99 Aug 2017 #15
I don't know how you can tolerate someone like that. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #16
It takes all types, and America you have a constitutional right to be willfully stupid MiddleClass Aug 2017 #17
They're Brainwashed videohead5 Aug 2017 #18
not enough free beers in the world to tolerate that distorted bullshit NRaleighLiberal Aug 2017 #19
I put up with eight years worth of derogatory emails and conversation that indubitably sprinkleeninow Aug 2017 #64
I couldn't be friends w/someone like that. She's too stupid...or she KNOWS the truth Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #20
When I encounter a Trump fan in a social setting and they start Mr.Bill Aug 2017 #23
You must be really depressed after writing all that.. :))) pangaia Aug 2017 #24
I feel your pain sandensea Aug 2017 #25
Reader's Digest Condensed version: "Trump voters are ignorant about everything." WinkyDink Aug 2017 #26
They live in a bubble & there's no hope for them bcool Aug 2017 #27
what would his reaction be if you Fresh_Start Aug 2017 #28
You do know that this friend of yours is helping to destroy this country Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #30
Your friend is a puppy, and Trump put him in front of an approaching garbage truck. C Moon Aug 2017 #31
This how humans will go extinct. VOX Aug 2017 #32
Couldn't pay me Break time Aug 2017 #34
So did he have two scoops for dessert??? Blue Owl Aug 2017 #35
Its classic brainwashing. procon Aug 2017 #36
I'd never thought of it that way before renate Aug 2017 #55
One after the other, I've lost my whole family to Fox's brainwashing. procon Aug 2017 #58
It's become a cult for these people DeeDeeNY Aug 2017 #37
their entire morality Locrian Aug 2017 #38
What Trumpanzees are writing at another site Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #40
buy your own beer and lunch...fuck him spanone Aug 2017 #41
no kidding nini Aug 2017 #46
What he done is embolden people!! Lobo27 Aug 2017 #42
We need to stop coddling these assholes. VermontKevin Aug 2017 #43
"So if you're wasting time trying to reach these people, don't." tazkcmo Aug 2017 #44
It must be nice to let someone else do your thinking for you. Initech Aug 2017 #45
Republicans and Trumpsters have been programmed by their media. Dustlawyer Aug 2017 #47
I will not have my brain eaten a lunch and few beers ... I cannot stand this guy MyNameIsKhan Aug 2017 #48
Have to trust your judgement in this case NotASurfer Aug 2017 #49
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2017 #50
Recommended. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #52
Relatively recently, I commented in a similar thread... 3catwoman3 Aug 2017 #53
this reminds me of the advice I've gotten about trying to reason with people who are delusional: renate Aug 2017 #54
See! Everything is just "fine" underpants Aug 2017 #56
people like this D_Master81 Aug 2017 #57
he bought the lunch and the beers bluecollar2 Aug 2017 #59
I, personally, would never spoil a perfectly good lunch by eating in the presence of one of them. nt Binkie The Clown Aug 2017 #60
Recent polls showed only 24% of Americans still believe Trump ecstatic Aug 2017 #63
This is exactly why I have blocked 5 ex "friends" HAB911 Aug 2017 #66
Which is it? Do as I say or do as I do? SharonClark Aug 2017 #67
Cretins support trump because they are just like him oppressedproletarian Aug 2017 #68
I hope you ran up a big bar tab Warpy Aug 2017 #70
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