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In reply to the discussion: Tom Perez is not looking good [View all]still_one
(92,118 posts)bullshit.
The Supreme Court wasn't a reason?
Women's rights were not a reason?
Civil Rights were not a reason?
Healthcare was not a reason?
Workers rights were not a reason?
Social Security and Medicare were not a reason?
The environment wasn't a reason?
The LIES that the Steins, Sarandons, and some of those self-identifed progressives willfully pushed, "that there was no difference between the two parties", and that Hillary was "worse than trump", along with the false equivalency that the media was only too willing to propagate, were all part of the 24/7 propaganda that polluted the airwaves.
There was no mystery that trump was a racist, bigot, and sexist. That was his campaign.
The 2000 election should have been enough of a warning that there were some on the left who never wanted to work within the Democratic party, and those same "usual suspects" were out in full force in 2016 undermining the Democratic party every chance they got.
Sarandon was recently interviewed by one of the late night talk hosts, and she was spewing about how trump would bring about "their so-called revolution".
What their "revolution" accomplished was that every Democrat running for Senate in those critical swing states, lost to the establishment, incumbent, republican, because some believed the LIES that there was no difference between the republicans and the Democrats.
Noam Chomsky said it best, progressives who refused to vote for Hillary Clinton made a bad mistake
I think they [made] a bad mistake, said Chomsky, who reiterated that its important to keep a greater evil from obtaining power, even if youre not thrilled with the alternative. I didnt like Clinton at all, but her positions are much better than Trumps on every issue I can think of.
Chomsky also attacked the arguments made by philosopher Slavoj Zizek, who argued that Trumps election would at least shake up the system and provide a real rallying point for the left.
[Zizek makes a] terrible point, Chomsky told Hasan. It was the same point that people like him said about Hitler in the early 30s
hell shake up the system in bad ways.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/noam-chomsky-progressives-who-refused-to-vote-for-hillary-clinton-made-a-bad-mistake/
We will see what happens in 2018, and anyone who says there is "no difference between the Democrats and republicans", can go to hell