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renate

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54. this reminds me of the advice I've gotten about trying to reason with people who are delusional:
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 09:20 PM
Aug 2017

Don't.

I volunteer in a capacity that occasionally brings me into contact with people who, through no fault of their own, are not grounded in reality. There is simply no point in trying to change their minds. It doesn't help them, it's not productive, and it's a barrier to trust. (So maybe, if there is any hope of gaining a Trump person's trust, the best approach is not to argue with them but to go along with their version of reality, at least in conversation if not in action.)

I'm not equating being a Fox News viewer with actual mental illness, but Fox News viewers simply and literally live in a different world than we do.

So yeah, what you said about not wasting time trying to reach these people (at least, with logic): don't.

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Lunch with a Trump fan [View all] mreilly Aug 2017 OP
not impressed. drray23 Aug 2017 #1
100% agree with you on this, / StopTheNeoCons Aug 2017 #21
Agree fully!!! nt jrthin Aug 2017 #29
"Not impressed." LenaBaby61 Aug 2017 #51
I'm with you. Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2017 #61
Please just link to pics like murder of innocent creatures Gabi Hayes Aug 2017 #62
Please just link to pics like murder of innocent creatures. LenaBaby61 Aug 2017 #65
judge much? ProfessorPlum Aug 2017 #69
No friend is worth that Vetteguy Aug 2017 #2
Maybe it was really good beer? gratuitous Aug 2017 #11
Vetteguy, 100% agree with you StopTheNeoCons Aug 2017 #22
Sorry - To Listen to that Shit packman Aug 2017 #3
Sorry, but I have murielm99 Aug 2017 #4
And I'm sure there were a lot of Nazis that were otherwise nice intelligent people, AJT Aug 2017 #5
I Couldn't Do It Leith Aug 2017 #6
You can't reason with those who believe we are the one who are brainwashed and out of touch with Glimmer of Hope Aug 2017 #7
Thank you for posting this... PoiBoy Aug 2017 #8
He was buying, and it was way, way too expensive . . . hatrack Aug 2017 #9
What I've said for a long time wryter2000 Aug 2017 #10
Here you go not fooled Aug 2017 #33
Thanks wryter2000 Aug 2017 #39
No friend I have ever had would hold those views and still count me as "friend"... Moostache Aug 2017 #12
I don't think my stomach could take it. Don't know how you could eat lunch. sinkingfeeling Aug 2017 #13
The one Trump supporting friend I had doesn't call me anymore, and I'm fine with that Downtown Hound Aug 2017 #14
I'm done with them too. They want Nuclear War nt maryellen99 Aug 2017 #15
I don't know how you can tolerate someone like that. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #16
It takes all types, and America you have a constitutional right to be willfully stupid MiddleClass Aug 2017 #17
They're Brainwashed videohead5 Aug 2017 #18
not enough free beers in the world to tolerate that distorted bullshit NRaleighLiberal Aug 2017 #19
I put up with eight years worth of derogatory emails and conversation that indubitably sprinkleeninow Aug 2017 #64
I couldn't be friends w/someone like that. She's too stupid...or she KNOWS the truth Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #20
When I encounter a Trump fan in a social setting and they start Mr.Bill Aug 2017 #23
You must be really depressed after writing all that.. :))) pangaia Aug 2017 #24
I feel your pain sandensea Aug 2017 #25
Reader's Digest Condensed version: "Trump voters are ignorant about everything." WinkyDink Aug 2017 #26
They live in a bubble & there's no hope for them bcool Aug 2017 #27
what would his reaction be if you Fresh_Start Aug 2017 #28
You do know that this friend of yours is helping to destroy this country Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #30
Your friend is a puppy, and Trump put him in front of an approaching garbage truck. C Moon Aug 2017 #31
This how humans will go extinct. VOX Aug 2017 #32
Couldn't pay me Break time Aug 2017 #34
So did he have two scoops for dessert??? Blue Owl Aug 2017 #35
Its classic brainwashing. procon Aug 2017 #36
I'd never thought of it that way before renate Aug 2017 #55
One after the other, I've lost my whole family to Fox's brainwashing. procon Aug 2017 #58
It's become a cult for these people DeeDeeNY Aug 2017 #37
their entire morality Locrian Aug 2017 #38
What Trumpanzees are writing at another site Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #40
buy your own beer and lunch...fuck him spanone Aug 2017 #41
no kidding nini Aug 2017 #46
What he done is embolden people!! Lobo27 Aug 2017 #42
We need to stop coddling these assholes. VermontKevin Aug 2017 #43
"So if you're wasting time trying to reach these people, don't." tazkcmo Aug 2017 #44
It must be nice to let someone else do your thinking for you. Initech Aug 2017 #45
Republicans and Trumpsters have been programmed by their media. Dustlawyer Aug 2017 #47
I will not have my brain eaten a lunch and few beers ... I cannot stand this guy MyNameIsKhan Aug 2017 #48
Have to trust your judgement in this case NotASurfer Aug 2017 #49
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2017 #50
Recommended. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #52
Relatively recently, I commented in a similar thread... 3catwoman3 Aug 2017 #53
this reminds me of the advice I've gotten about trying to reason with people who are delusional: renate Aug 2017 #54
See! Everything is just "fine" underpants Aug 2017 #56
people like this D_Master81 Aug 2017 #57
he bought the lunch and the beers bluecollar2 Aug 2017 #59
I, personally, would never spoil a perfectly good lunch by eating in the presence of one of them. nt Binkie The Clown Aug 2017 #60
Recent polls showed only 24% of Americans still believe Trump ecstatic Aug 2017 #63
This is exactly why I have blocked 5 ex "friends" HAB911 Aug 2017 #66
Which is it? Do as I say or do as I do? SharonClark Aug 2017 #67
Cretins support trump because they are just like him oppressedproletarian Aug 2017 #68
I hope you ran up a big bar tab Warpy Aug 2017 #70
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