Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Generic Other

(29,082 posts)
64. I say we drop Choco pies on them
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:39 PM
Aug 2017


The first time the South Korean factory owner watched his North Korean employees nibble on a Choco Pie, they appeared shocked -- even overwhelmed.
He summed up their reaction to the South Korean snack in one word: "Ecstasy."
Much like what Twinkies are to Americans, South Korea's Choco Pies -- two disc-shaped, chocolate-covered cakes, sandwiching a rubbery layer of marshmallow cream -- are ubiquitous, cost less than 50 cents and are full of empty calories.
But on the other side of the Korean border, the snacks are viewed as exotic, highly prized treats, selling on North Korea's black markets for as much as $10, according to analysts. Their rising popularity in the north reveals an unexpected common ground between the two Koreas, despite their fractious relationship -- a shared sweet tooth.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/27/world/asia/choco-pie-koreas/index.html



The North Korean border has never been a hospitable place. It’s home to mines, guard towers and guns — all of it an intractable symbol of the animosity between the North and the South. But just six miles into North Korea sits a sprawling complex of factories, where today a very different type of struggle is underway between the nations.

It’s the battle of the Choco Pie.

Under normal conditions, the South Korea-produced Choco Pie is more or less available to North Koreans thanks to the Kaesong Industrial Complex, where South Korean businesses employ thousands of North Korean workers on the cheap. Since the complex opened in 2004, South Korean businessmen have parceled out untold thousands of Choco Pies as bonuses to the North Koreans. And the workers, in turn, have created a burgeoning Choco Pie black market.

It’s difficult, according to analysts, to overstate the Choco Pie’s cultural impact in North Korea. It’s not just two chocolate cakes hugging a marshmallow mixture — it’s capitalism, delicious capitalism.

Former North Korean defectors living in South Korea prepare balloons containing snacks called "Choco Pie" and anti-Pyongyang leaflets before releasing them towards the North near the demilitarized zone separating the two Koreas in Ganghwa, northwest of Seoul April 24, 2012. REUTERS/Lee Jae-Won (SOUTH KOREA - Tags: POLITICS MILITARY FOOD) - RTR31531 Former North Korean defectors living in South Korea prepare balloons containing snacks called “Choco Pie” and anti-Pyongyang leaflets before releasing them towards the North near the demilitarized zone separating the two Koreas in Ganghwa, northwest of Seoul on April 24, 2012. (Lee Jae-Won/Reuters)
By some estimates, as many as 2.5 million Choco Pies were traded monthly — though it’s unclear who exactly was so assiduously following Choco Pie markets.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/07/01/north-korea-has-reportedly-banned-choco-pies/?utm_term=.89f36d6c2363

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Killing North Korean civilians 1950-1953 [View all] Dirty Socialist Aug 2017 OP
I hear we ate them, too. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2017 #1
Asking for a friend? Iggo Aug 2017 #2
Not sure how many North Korean civilians were killed? atreides1 Aug 2017 #3
Thanks for the link Dirty Socialist Aug 2017 #5
The truth is that large numbers of Americans have no clue what was done malaise Aug 2017 #4
And that justifies what, exactly? Dreamer Tatum Aug 2017 #6
Hey! haven't you seen all those NK's smiling in pics!?!?! lol EX500rider Aug 2017 #7
I find that the best way to object to American Imperialism Dreamer Tatum Aug 2017 #10
Well kind of smiling anyway.... EX500rider Aug 2017 #13
The U.S. war crime North Korea wont forget... countryjake Aug 2017 #62
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! malaise Aug 2017 #67
North Korea started the war you know.. EX500rider Aug 2017 #11
They did. Unfortunately, after his brilliance at Inchon, MacArthur's ego extended it by several yrs. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #22
This is what's maddening about MacArthur ... he he just had to stop 100 miles away from a freaking uponit7771 Aug 2017 #24
And the people in North Korea have had to suffer horribly for it, too. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #36
+ 1,000,000 countryjake Aug 2017 #15
See post #11 nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2017 #16
Ya, the importance of "liberating", "peacekeeping"... countryjake Aug 2017 #18
It was more like defending S Korea from a aggressive unprovoked attack.. EX500rider Aug 2017 #25
Interesting how blase you seem about N Korea starting it all by invasion. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2017 #26
As I said, collateral damage is such a lovely term. countryjake Aug 2017 #30
In other words, you got nothing. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2017 #33
See post #4 n/t countryjake Aug 2017 #43
See post #6. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2017 #45
Has there been some major war where civilians weren't killed? By any country? EX500rider Aug 2017 #34
Sometimes I just laugh malaise Aug 2017 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author Dreamer Tatum Aug 2017 #44
Yup, it's those specific sanctimonious slaughters... countryjake Aug 2017 #56
Justify what? Dreamer Tatum Aug 2017 #58
If imperialism is trying to conquer and take over another country.. EX500rider Aug 2017 #59
Thank you... whathehell Aug 2017 #66
My uncle watched his entire platoon burn alive during the Korean War. whathehell Aug 2017 #65
What does this have to do sarisataka Aug 2017 #8
It's an attempt to blame the US for N. Korea's actions and attitudes Dreamer Tatum Aug 2017 #14
I've noticed a recent uptick sarisataka Aug 2017 #20
A lot of people are clueless about history. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #23
It is NOT. Dirty Socialist Aug 2017 #38
Am *I* trolling? Dreamer Tatum Aug 2017 #40
Here: EX500rider Aug 2017 #9
It wouldn't doubt it Revanchist Aug 2017 #12
How many has the Kim regime killed? B2G Aug 2017 #17
I'm in the middle of reading "the great leader and the fighter pilot"- the author wrote an op-ed for Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #19
My feelings exactly Dirty Socialist Aug 2017 #28
Did it really result in a higher death count than Hiroshima and Nagasaki? BainsBane Aug 2017 #31
Well, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, while horrible, didn't really have such a significantly higher Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #35
Wow BainsBane Aug 2017 #37
Gee, now it makes sense why one family imprisons an entire country. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2017 #39
Is that what I'm saying? Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #42
And I'm saying I don't need yet another lecture on how bad the US is Dreamer Tatum Aug 2017 #47
No shit. I read "escape from camp 17", too. NK is a totalitarian shithole Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #50
I think I lose my shit a little bit when there is the slightest whiff of whitewash Dreamer Tatum Aug 2017 #54
There have been people on this site who have posted North Korea apologia Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #55
Thank you. I'm not an expert on Korean history Dreamer Tatum Aug 2017 #57
Trollerific Post! Dirty Socialist Aug 2017 #46
What is the point of your OP? Dreamer Tatum Aug 2017 #48
Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #49
You got your answer. Hope it got you a wedge. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2017 #51
Knowledge is a wonderful thing Dirty Socialist Aug 2017 #52
"Asking a question" LexVegas Aug 2017 #53
You believe what you want to believe Dirty Socialist Aug 2017 #60
Ok. LexVegas Aug 2017 #61
Jesus. LexVegas Aug 2017 #21
Too many but North Korea was responsible for that war. hrmjustin Aug 2017 #27
there were plenty of atrocities on both sides; do your own research... Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #29
Once again; don't start no shit, won't be no shit. nt Codeine Aug 2017 #32
Apparently no one cares about North Koreans, including Dear Leader Not Ruth Aug 2017 #63
I say we drop Choco pies on them Generic Other Aug 2017 #64
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Killing North Korean civi...»Reply #64