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potone

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109. It's amazing to me that Hillary supporters...

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 03:37 PM

Aug 2017

don't get that maybe those Obama voters stayed home because they didn't like Hillary. After all, Obama beat her before. It is illogical to say on the one hand that we will never know how many Bernie supporters (not "Berners," by the way) stayed home, and at the same time to blame Bernie's supporters for Trump's victory. It would have to have been a critical mass of Bernie supporters, and I see no evidence for it. But it seems that some people are determined to blame Bernie for Trump's victory, even without any actual evidence to support that conclusion.

In addition, the fact that Hillary did win the popular vote makes it very strange to blame Bernie, rather than the Electoral College, for Trump's victory. There are many things that we need to change about the way that we elect presidents in this country, including voter suppression, unreliable voting machines, hackable voter lists, the undemocratic nature of the Electoral College, and the way that campaigns are financed. So can we please demand action on those things so that we don't face another electoral outcome like the one we faced in 2016?

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Brought to you by your refusal to elect the democratic candidate: [View all] lindysalsagal Aug 2017 OP

But she gave a fucking speech, dont you realize that alone is Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #1

Not an exaggeration. And Bernie was not cheated. yardwork Aug 2017 #2

Correct and CORRECT! NurseJackie Aug 2017 #5

Nope.. and I have quit a bit of hatred in my heart for what he did OKNancy Aug 2017 #6

Same here. R B Garr Aug 2017 #11

I echo your sentiment. I fear it is going to happen again in the justhanginon Aug 2017 #13

If it does, I'm going to be convinced that they're being paid by Putin. yardwork Aug 2017 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author MrsCoffee Aug 2017 #133

There are those whom I will never forgive for this, KTM Aug 2017 #106

Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #115

Dumbass post, I'll take the hide. Agschmid Aug 2017 #118

That's cool. Don't count on me snitching. liquid diamond Aug 2017 #122

Bernie endorsed Clinton. dawg Aug 2017 #148

I wouldn't be proud to say something like that G_j Aug 2017 #150

What did he do? TooStrong Aug 2017 #157

63 million morons Pantagruel Aug 2017 #3

But You Don't Undrstand Me. Aug 2017 #4

And her families Foundation Vetteguy Aug 2017 #59

I Know...How Dare They Get The Excellent Scores They Did...Must be Fake News Me. Aug 2017 #69

And she MFM008 Aug 2017 #105

Even Worse Me. Aug 2017 #107

It looks like they've been out "revolutioned". The real Revolution looks R B Garr Aug 2017 #7

Yep! Zoonart Aug 2017 #8

Brought to you by tens of millions of non voters. And that's the truth Tom Rinaldo Aug 2017 #9

That's right. potone Aug 2017 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author Vetteguy Aug 2017 #66

We'll never know how many Berners stayed home. Obama's voters stayed home. lindysalsagal Aug 2017 #71

It's amazing to me that Hillary supporters... potone Aug 2017 #109

I'm a Bernie voter wellst0nev0ter Aug 2017 #112

Exactly. Thank you. I didn't like everything about her, either, but it's not about me. lindysalsagal Aug 2017 #116

Exactly NastyRiffraff Aug 2017 #139

What amazed me in 08 was how many Republicans that I knew voted for Obama. Autumn Aug 2017 #130

+1000 LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #75

it is embarrassing NJCher Aug 2017 #103

There is nothing maladjusted about people voting for Democrats. R B Garr Aug 2017 #138

And 25-30% of Jewish voters, and 25-30% of Hispanic voters, and 25-30% of women voters. vi5 Aug 2017 #82

Voted Bernie primary; Gladly voted Hillary general. Duppers Aug 2017 #100

Oh fuck it. Johnson voters are as guilty as Stein voters, or Sanders write-ins KitSileya Aug 2017 #132

There are a lot of factors that have gotten us to where we are today, the main one being the fact WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #10

One should note that the alt.left that helped elect Trump... Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #17

As I say, white people look for ways to extend hegemony. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #21

Good point. And good word...hegemony. brush Aug 2017 #39

This! romana Aug 2017 #12

This is what they wanted. Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #14

Though I agree we'll never overcome this if we don't stop going at one another. nolabear Aug 2017 #15

Jill Stein, Pat Robertson, Franklin Graham, Susan Sarandon, Eddie Glaude oasis Aug 2017 #16

Someone's missing there, but I understand why. R B Garr Aug 2017 #20

awww tell us who is missing? why can't you say it? m-lekktor Aug 2017 #25

awww, some revolution there, isn't it. R B Garr Aug 2017 #27

HRC's mythical "baggage" was intolerable to them. oasis Aug 2017 #28

Sexism played a big role. yardwork Aug 2017 #72

That's for sure. nt oasis Aug 2017 #74

As someone who has had several posts hidden for that reason, liquid diamond Aug 2017 #121

Yep greeny2323 Aug 2017 #18

I find your post disgusting. David__77 Aug 2017 #19

Wow, even a GOP ex-Bush official, Richard Painter, is more in tune to R B Garr Aug 2017 #22

Yes heard him this morning Vetteguy Aug 2017 #64

Why are you bringing Judaism into this? murielm99 Aug 2017 #24

These are fucking ANTI-SEMITES and people are blaming supporters of Jew. David__77 Aug 2017 #26

This is the second post of yours I have seen murielm99 Aug 2017 #29

Keep blaming Sanders if you want to. David__77 Aug 2017 #33

You think you're being helpful? Cary Aug 2017 #36

Bernie primary supporter here. 1) this OP is about BoB's and third party voters. 2) therefore emulatorloo Aug 2017 #32

Thank You Leith Aug 2017 #68

I was a Berner at the primary, too, But I knew we had to vote party for potus. lindysalsagal Aug 2017 #76

Not many Bernie supporters stayed home. 90% came out and voted for the Democratic candidate emulatorloo Aug 2017 #147

I don't know how you would prove the number: 90%? Maybe, maybe not. lindysalsagal Aug 2017 #149

Some survey I saw somewhere in a newspaper but don't remember where I saw it emulatorloo Aug 2017 #151

You are correct. It is indeed disgusting. It also reveals more to me... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #44

Disgusting? Me. Aug 2017 #30

Yeah I mentioned Judaism. David__77 Aug 2017 #34

That Is Just So Nonsensical Me. Aug 2017 #40

Really? Pretty bizarre projection there: George II Aug 2017 #54

If by "funny" you mean "revealing" ... then I'm in agreement. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #57

Zoom Me. Aug 2017 #110

You're dragging the "Jewish socialist" angle into this. Why? George II Aug 2017 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Aug 2017 #65

Not Bernie supporters, collaborators with fascism. BainsBane Aug 2017 #94

I concur Doc Coco Aug 2017 #117

What's the point of this? Who are you talking to? WIProgressive88 Aug 2017 #23

Bernie or Busters. You are correct, nobody here is a BoB no OP is not about us. It's a Rant emulatorloo Aug 2017 #38

I don't get these posts. cwydro Aug 2017 #47

Exactly. These OPs should be alerted on as flame bait, and repeat posters banned LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #141

And rather than attacking those on the right this poster tiredtoo Aug 2017 #31

Are delusional BOB's really leftists? Thread is not about the sane Bernie supporters like you and emulatorloo Aug 2017 #43

Ever see this? George II Aug 2017 #58

Many of Obama's voters stayed home. Truth. Not ashamed to say it straight. They stayed home. lindysalsagal Aug 2017 #77

I talked to a young African American tiredtoo Aug 2017 #92

I wonder if he feels the same now Motownman78 Aug 2017 #131

undoubtedly tiredtoo Aug 2017 #134

There's that voter supression thingy. liquid diamond Aug 2017 #125

got to get her props somehow, and the usual choir always sings along. Raster Aug 2017 #129

How would electing Clinton kept them from rallying? (NT) Reiyuki Aug 2017 #35

LOL shhh leftstreet Aug 2017 #45

Been here a long time. Reiyuki Aug 2017 #53

There were always crazies at the fringe of our country question everything Aug 2017 #46

Even ex-GOP Bush administration officials are able to figure this out. R B Garr Aug 2017 #49

Electing Donald emboldened them treestar Aug 2017 #145

Bigots always seem to come out when they feel empowered. Much like the anti-gay bigots in Russia stevenleser Aug 2017 #152

Yeah, but they've pretty much always been on the internet Reiyuki Aug 2017 #153

Seriously? They were all over Trump's rallies. It made daily news. R B Garr Aug 2017 #154

I wasn't compelled to post b/c of the nazi protests Reiyuki Aug 2017 #155

Your post #35 is what started this subthread. It was saying that electing Clinton R B Garr Aug 2017 #156

let it go already for fucks sake Chakaconcarne Aug 2017 #41

NO we can do it Aug 2017 #143

Brought to you by corrupt Republicans moondust Aug 2017 #42

You think this event wouldn't have happened if Trump lost last November? Efilroft Sul Aug 2017 #48

Hear, Hear! n/t sagesnow Aug 2017 #52

WE DID!! BY 3 MILLION VOTES! Greybnk48 Aug 2017 #51

YES YES A THOUSAND TIMES YES!!! TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #55

AMEN X 1000!!! Paladin Aug 2017 #56

Exactly my point. lindysalsagal Aug 2017 #78

Even More Emboldened erpowers Aug 2017 #60

No way to prove your point, but these people have their leader now. lindysalsagal Aug 2017 #79

Your post is nonsense, Hillary won the election. Open your eyes and see what really happened Autumn Aug 2017 #61

+1 QC Aug 2017 #62

+1 Agschmid Aug 2017 #120

Agreed 100% nt riderinthestorm Aug 2017 #136

I'm gonna change my username to "OFFS". nt Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #63

OFFS! KPN Aug 2017 #67

Oh yes GaryCnf Aug 2017 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author vi5 Aug 2017 #80

But we did! It was flat out stolen. sandensea Aug 2017 #81

Dinner at Miss Havisham's house again. How very. QC Aug 2017 #83

K&R ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #84

I was a Bernie Sanders supporter and voter LovesPNW Aug 2017 #85

You did the right thing. So did I. lindysalsagal Aug 2017 #89

Incredible amount of worthless genetic material right there. nt Lucky Luciano Aug 2017 #86

As Charlottesville is under siege Lazy Daisy Aug 2017 #87

I see Nina Turner is in your sig line ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #90

Spot on. Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #99

Really? Lazy Daisy Aug 2017 #111

There it is... Doc Coco Aug 2017 #119

No, that's not what it is. WTF is a corporatist except some phony R B Garr Aug 2017 #135

Nina Turner has been in my sig line for over a year. Lazy Daisy Aug 2017 #102

Not your fault, but let's listen to Nina.. ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #104

What in those articles Lazy Daisy Aug 2017 #108

The word you are looking for is "divisive"--not offensive. ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #113

No, I meant offensive Lazy Daisy Aug 2017 #126

Well Said! BadGimp Aug 2017 #88

But why vote for a corporate sellout? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2017 #91

Stop trying to stir up shit, by re-litigating the election. PBass Aug 2017 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers Aug 2017 #95

I'll kick and recommend this one big-time. NBachers Aug 2017 #96

This was made in Virginia Duppers Aug 2017 #97

So fucking sick of this. FiveGoodMen Aug 2017 #98

A.F'n.men! Duppers Aug 2017 #101

+1,000,000,000,000,000 meadowlander Aug 2017 #128

Yes, this garbage is beyond tired melman Aug 2017 #137

But, her emails... liquid diamond Aug 2017 #114

Elections have consequences Gothmog Aug 2017 #123

This sort of thing would have happened even if Clinton won. Willie Pep Aug 2017 #124

No, it's well-known and acknowledged that the alt-right embraces Trump. R B Garr Aug 2017 #140

Yes obviously treestar Aug 2017 #146

As I said in another thread: Fuck anyone who said Hillary was worse than Trump! KitSileya Aug 2017 #127

such a diverse crowd Skittles Aug 2017 #142

I assume you're talking to people from WI, MI, and PA. Duncan Grant Aug 2017 #144

Don't forget there are many racists and sexists out there that pretend to not be sunonmars Aug 2017 #158