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In reply to the discussion: Nazi war hero. Confederate war hero. [View all]Marinedem
(373 posts)107. Of course there were confederate heros.
And Union heroes.
And British heroes.
And Nazi heroes.
And Khmer Rouge heroes.
And Stalinist heroes.
And American heroes.
To be a hero one does not have to be universally regarded as one.
Hartmann was a hero to the Germans, but certainly not to the Russians, as Lee is to some southerners but probably not to most northerners.
Perspective is everything.
Without doubt, many southerners performed acts of heroism during the war. The fact that those acts were in opposition of someone's preferred views/allegiances does not negate that heroism.
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Not sure. But the answer is presumably the same as for "Is there a hero of the Iraq war?"
redgreenandblue
Jul 2012
#1
there is so long as there's a culture remaining that venerates said 'heroes'. i'd say there is in
HiPointDem
Jul 2012
#2
Lee was commanding an army and was fighting for his state, same as generals like Rommel etc
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#12
I would think the Welsh would consider him a hero as well for fighting a common enemy.
geardaddy
Jul 2012
#69
I always thought Lee served in the federal army before taking command of the army of nova
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#144
well both ultimately fought against their previous employer so the comparison is pretty good
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#152
We are sympatico at the first part of your statement, but not all the way through:
freshwest
Jul 2012
#90
You know... I am a dissident now and I would have been a dissident then.
Luminous Animal
Jul 2012
#112
The reason why I asked is that even though the South lost, as a cultre..,
Luminous Animal
Jul 2012
#7
he dosent have one, not sure why you ascribe to Lee being the same as hitler
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#14
Davis and Lee should have been destroyed, They should have been lead from
Luminous Animal
Jul 2012
#18
okay i guess its not a discussion you want rather some sort of wierd one upmanship
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#20
regardless of your thoughts on it, a large chunk of your fellow americans dont see it that way
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#10
question is where does loyalty lie. if you ar scots is it scotland or the UK
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#121
DU seriously needs a hyperbole jar. The servers would be platinum-plated in hours. (nt)
Posteritatis
Jul 2012
#123
no it makes no difference when it comes to heroics which comes down to individual deeds
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#16
Apparenty, some people had morals, because (you know) they fought for the other side,
Luminous Animal
Jul 2012
#30
If the South ends up winning, there will be a great many Confederate War heroes. n/t
dogknob
Jul 2012
#5
So, then, were the terrorists that killed and maimed a bunch of us on 9/11 heroes also?
Zorra
Jul 2012
#53
It's not about "win or lose". It is about which side was morally correct.
redgreenandblue
Jul 2012
#38
each side has heroes because in a war each side believes they are morally correct...
dionysus
Jul 2012
#47
it's not saying the nazis were on the right side or anything. in a generic sense, if someone does
dionysus
Jul 2012
#88
8 guess it depends if you believe people have a right to fight against what they believe they dont w
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#151
Neither soldiers on the winning or losing side can fight with honor - bravery maybe, but not honor
1-Old-Man
Jul 2012
#45
I believe that the young conscripts who landed on the Normandy beaches fought with honor.
Nye Bevan
Jul 2012
#49
Would you consider a German national holiday honoring Wehrmacht soldiers appropriate then?
redgreenandblue
Jul 2012
#61
The problem is that very few "acts of heroism" in warfare revolve around saving someone.
redgreenandblue
Jul 2012
#153
Sherman was hailed as a hero and liberator by many southern newspapers at the time.
ieoeja
Jul 2012
#156
My problem with Lee is that he considered himself a Virginian rather than as an American.
libinnyandia
Jul 2012
#63
And that is why my great-great grandfather died. The Constitution was a document for Americans,
libinnyandia
Jul 2012
#74
My great-great grandfather fought as an American working to keep the United States united. Lee
libinnyandia
Jul 2012
#95
This could go on. You don't know how my ancestor felt. I know he died to keep thiis country
libinnyandia
Jul 2012
#118
In the UK the people were at one time part of different countries. The ? I ask is:is it more
libinnyandia
Jul 2012
#130
Why did people volunteer to go to war during the Civil war, not after? If they had not thoght of
libinnyandia
Jul 2012
#129
Because they followed their states, towns, family and friends to war, entire regiments were made up
Uncle Joe
Jul 2012
#131
They fought as Americans. Listening to the Battle Cry of Freedom. The Union Forever.
libinnyandia
Jul 2012
#137
The vast majority of those Americans followed the direction of their elected state governments.
Uncle Joe
Jul 2012
#138
The same can be said for the majority of people from every other state, including the North.
Uncle Joe
Jul 2012
#79
Most of the soldiers in both cases were conscripts. Not heroes. Not villains. Lots of boys. nt
Romulox
Jul 2012
#67
Yes they might be heroes for their own side. But I wouldn't honor them for it.
NYC Liberal
Jul 2012
#81
As someone who was born and still living in the South I have no respect for the Confederacy.
white_wolf
Jul 2012
#82
One Confederate "Hero": Nathan Bedford Forrest, war criminal and founder of the KKK.
backscatter712
Jul 2012
#83
To one who considers himself a patriot to the US, "confederate war hero" is an oxymoron.
lumberjack_jeff
Jul 2012
#91
This post seems to imply "Confederacy" and "South" are largely the same thing.
2ndAmForComputers
Jul 2012
#98