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65. These responses have historically gone against progressives, this is true.

Mon Aug 14, 2017, 10:10 AM

Aug 2017

But now it will be difficult not to use the responses that have passed the constitutional tests against the White Supremacist, Trump supporters who want to escalate the situation.

Just by making these organizations a priority on the law enforcement agenda, we have a huge win. You don't have to resort to hyperbolic martial law to wipe every solution off the table.

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Should we revoke the voting rights from those who are active in HATE groups [View all] Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 OP

Revoke their citizenship and deport them. Orrex Aug 2017 #1

It's unconstitutional unless they violate the law. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2017 #2

Isn't that what I said? Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #9

If they are convicted of felonies they lose the right to vote. yardwork Aug 2017 #47

The full weight of the law. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #68

You said those who are in groups that are responsible for domestic terrorism. Chemisse Aug 2017 #53

Actually, no. That's not what you said. lapucelle Aug 2017 #66

If they read the entire thread, they will. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #69

It's also unconstitutional to supress voters who are blakc, Hispanic, or poor.... Shell_Seas Aug 2017 #33

Oh, sure, come on this thread and point out the reality of the arbitrary way our Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #71

Will you revoke my right to vote because I hate Trump? leftofcool Aug 2017 #3

Are you responsible for domestic terrorism? Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #10

According to many of the alt-right... Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #36

Our one saving grace is that it seems like politicians and public officials are Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #41

Agree. In this thought experiment my concern is.... Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #51

Can't legally remove rights without due process. JoeStuckInOH Aug 2017 #4

Does no one read a full post before responding? Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #11

Does no one read the constitution? Still can't do it without due process. JoeStuckInOH Aug 2017 #14

We'll see if this escalates under Trump's leadership. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #15

You can't "expedite" due process by skipping the critical step Ms. Toad Aug 2017 #29

I can abide by that. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #34

It's not my view, it's the law, as embodied in the constitution. Ms. Toad Aug 2017 #38

But there is a thing called "public safety" that makes policy less static. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #43

You're suggesting suspending constitutional rights and martial law. yardwork Aug 2017 #49

I'm sure there will be a clever lawyer who can come up with some legal reasoning to justify a Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #60

No. We should arrest them the minute they break the law. Squinch Aug 2017 #5

Just incarcerate them for the crimes they get caught committing. eShirl Aug 2017 #6

Good lord - you can't be serious oberliner Aug 2017 #7

Did you read my post? Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #12

Sure! Why not?! Maybe Dubya was right about the Constitution! WinkyDink Aug 2017 #8

So, someone who is responsible for domestic terrorism should retain their right to vote? Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #13

Unless a citizen has violated laws which results in the inability to vote we should not Thinkingabout Aug 2017 #16

Your response is a good one. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #17

On what grounds? sarisataka Aug 2017 #18

Rather than coming up with ways to violate the First Amendment BainsBane Aug 2017 #19

I think you are on the right track. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #23

We need people to vote for Democrats. yardwork Aug 2017 #52

Define "active". Are you referring only to those who perpetrate the "domestic terrorism"? Or... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #20

Active: Holding tiki torches to shout hate speech, kicking people who are on the ground, Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #24

You're being very vague. Please explain: at what point do they lose their rights? Is it... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #30

I think we are now at the level of this discussion where the only option is to Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #37

Being present when the violence began, Ms. Toad Aug 2017 #42

We shall see what happens, if this situation escalates. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #44

I don't follow. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #48

Think "public safety." If public safety is threatened by future escalation, there will be increased Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #59

Your assumption that this stronger response will benefit us is naive, imo. yardwork Aug 2017 #61

These responses have historically gone against progressives, this is true. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #65

Changing the subject and deflecting. None of the things you're now saying... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #63

Just think, it was only a couple of days ago Ms. Toad Aug 2017 #21

There is nothing to retract. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #25

If you want to continue to look as goofy as the Republicans Ms. Toad Aug 2017 #31

I don't disagree with you regarding following constitutional tenets. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #40

Now you're talking about the 6th amendment (right to a speedy trial), not due process. Ms. Toad Aug 2017 #46

Why are you resisting a conversation that is an opportunity to educate? Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #57

After adding the words "convicted felon" to their police record NotASurfer Aug 2017 #22

Agree. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #26

What, specifically, do you suggest? yardwork Aug 2017 #55

Move swiftly, based on photographic evidence, for instance. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #62

Jeff Sessions ain't gonna do that for us. Elect Democrats next time. yardwork Aug 2017 #64

If they are felons, their voting rights Sanity Claws Aug 2017 #27

Correct. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #28

Knee-jerk law making to address a specific circumstance is usually a bad idea. Chemisse Aug 2017 #56

If perpetrators of "domestic violence" Alpeduez21 Aug 2017 #32

I do think they need to be identified and tracked. roamer65 Aug 2017 #35

No Johnny2X2X Aug 2017 #39

Makes a lot more sense Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2017 #45

And right now Trump and Sessions would decide who that is.... Lee-Lee Aug 2017 #50

Only if they are specifically convicted of committing said felonies. jmg257 Aug 2017 #54

That is a slippery slope Not Ruth Aug 2017 #58

What a horrible idea mythology Aug 2017 #67

No. B2G Aug 2017 #70

The GOP is the party of voter suppression Gothmog Aug 2017 #72

Is the DOJ implementing their version of your plan? Not Ruth Aug 2017 #73

uh no you cannot revoke voting rights because of a person's political opinions. Voltaire2 Aug 2017 #74