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68. The full weight of the law.

Reply to yardwork (Reply #47)

Mon Aug 14, 2017, 11:11 AM

Aug 2017

Let's agree on that point. Quick results just by putting this on law enforcement's front burner.

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Should we revoke the voting rights from those who are active in HATE groups [View all] Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 OP

Revoke their citizenship and deport them. Orrex Aug 2017 #1

It's unconstitutional unless they violate the law. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2017 #2

Isn't that what I said? Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #9

If they are convicted of felonies they lose the right to vote. yardwork Aug 2017 #47

The full weight of the law. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #68

You said those who are in groups that are responsible for domestic terrorism. Chemisse Aug 2017 #53

Actually, no. That's not what you said. lapucelle Aug 2017 #66

If they read the entire thread, they will. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #69

It's also unconstitutional to supress voters who are blakc, Hispanic, or poor.... Shell_Seas Aug 2017 #33

Oh, sure, come on this thread and point out the reality of the arbitrary way our Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #71

Will you revoke my right to vote because I hate Trump? leftofcool Aug 2017 #3

Are you responsible for domestic terrorism? Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #10

According to many of the alt-right... Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #36

Our one saving grace is that it seems like politicians and public officials are Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #41

Agree. In this thought experiment my concern is.... Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #51

Can't legally remove rights without due process. JoeStuckInOH Aug 2017 #4

Does no one read a full post before responding? Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #11

Does no one read the constitution? Still can't do it without due process. JoeStuckInOH Aug 2017 #14

We'll see if this escalates under Trump's leadership. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #15

You can't "expedite" due process by skipping the critical step Ms. Toad Aug 2017 #29

I can abide by that. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #34

It's not my view, it's the law, as embodied in the constitution. Ms. Toad Aug 2017 #38

But there is a thing called "public safety" that makes policy less static. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #43

You're suggesting suspending constitutional rights and martial law. yardwork Aug 2017 #49

I'm sure there will be a clever lawyer who can come up with some legal reasoning to justify a Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #60

No. We should arrest them the minute they break the law. Squinch Aug 2017 #5

Just incarcerate them for the crimes they get caught committing. eShirl Aug 2017 #6

Good lord - you can't be serious oberliner Aug 2017 #7

Did you read my post? Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #12

Sure! Why not?! Maybe Dubya was right about the Constitution! WinkyDink Aug 2017 #8

So, someone who is responsible for domestic terrorism should retain their right to vote? Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #13

Unless a citizen has violated laws which results in the inability to vote we should not Thinkingabout Aug 2017 #16

Your response is a good one. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #17

On what grounds? sarisataka Aug 2017 #18

Rather than coming up with ways to violate the First Amendment BainsBane Aug 2017 #19

I think you are on the right track. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #23

We need people to vote for Democrats. yardwork Aug 2017 #52

Define "active". Are you referring only to those who perpetrate the "domestic terrorism"? Or... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #20

Active: Holding tiki torches to shout hate speech, kicking people who are on the ground, Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #24

You're being very vague. Please explain: at what point do they lose their rights? Is it... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #30

I think we are now at the level of this discussion where the only option is to Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #37

Being present when the violence began, Ms. Toad Aug 2017 #42

We shall see what happens, if this situation escalates. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #44

I don't follow. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #48

Think "public safety." If public safety is threatened by future escalation, there will be increased Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #59

Your assumption that this stronger response will benefit us is naive, imo. yardwork Aug 2017 #61

These responses have historically gone against progressives, this is true. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #65

Changing the subject and deflecting. None of the things you're now saying... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #63

Just think, it was only a couple of days ago Ms. Toad Aug 2017 #21

There is nothing to retract. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #25

If you want to continue to look as goofy as the Republicans Ms. Toad Aug 2017 #31

I don't disagree with you regarding following constitutional tenets. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #40

Now you're talking about the 6th amendment (right to a speedy trial), not due process. Ms. Toad Aug 2017 #46

Why are you resisting a conversation that is an opportunity to educate? Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #57

After adding the words "convicted felon" to their police record NotASurfer Aug 2017 #22

Agree. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #26

What, specifically, do you suggest? yardwork Aug 2017 #55

Move swiftly, based on photographic evidence, for instance. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #62

Jeff Sessions ain't gonna do that for us. Elect Democrats next time. yardwork Aug 2017 #64

If they are felons, their voting rights Sanity Claws Aug 2017 #27

Correct. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #28

Knee-jerk law making to address a specific circumstance is usually a bad idea. Chemisse Aug 2017 #56

If perpetrators of "domestic violence" Alpeduez21 Aug 2017 #32

I do think they need to be identified and tracked. roamer65 Aug 2017 #35

No Johnny2X2X Aug 2017 #39

Makes a lot more sense Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2017 #45

And right now Trump and Sessions would decide who that is.... Lee-Lee Aug 2017 #50

Only if they are specifically convicted of committing said felonies. jmg257 Aug 2017 #54

That is a slippery slope Not Ruth Aug 2017 #58

What a horrible idea mythology Aug 2017 #67

No. B2G Aug 2017 #70

The GOP is the party of voter suppression Gothmog Aug 2017 #72

Is the DOJ implementing their version of your plan? Not Ruth Aug 2017 #73

uh no you cannot revoke voting rights because of a person's political opinions. Voltaire2 Aug 2017 #74