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Turn CO Blue

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34. In 1989 the east and west Germans tore the Berlin wall down.
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 12:29 PM
Aug 2017

Was there anybody saying "oh, but history" for the sake of preserving that freaking wall? The people who kept pieces of the wall were keeping souvenirs only for the sake of the satisfaction of destruction of the IDEA of the wall, not just the actual boundary of the wall.

As for the concern trolls expressing outrage about destruction of the sculptor's artwork in these bronze statues -- I will say it like they tell the hoarders concerned about their piles of stuff on the TV show -- take a picture. That's your "memory" now and the act of destruction is the new history we need to always remember. Anyway, there are detailed schematics and photos of the statue as "artwork" for history or art buffs.

Some of these more well-known monuments are being relocated to Civil War museums. If it's only one - well, that's more than enough, but I think there will be several preserved. I hope those museums will also add exhibits of photos and film of some of the other statues being torn down recently and turned to rubble or upcycled into something more useful than some local government's pisspoor decision to spend town funds years ago lionizing hateful, wrong-headed men who were on the wrong side of humanity and the wrong side of history.

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I don't want to erase history. [View all] Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 OP
Someone gave my husband that argument on Sunday. Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2017 #1
most do need to go freddyvh Aug 2017 #2
I agree, it has to be done right or else it just creates more problems Amishman Aug 2017 #38
There's history to preserve records and there's history to create a (false) narrative ck4829 Aug 2017 #3
"There's history to preserve records and there's history to create a narrative" Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #4
You could do it with all history really ck4829 Aug 2017 #5
I'm now looking forward to reading up on Michel Foucault this evening. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #10
I want to end the official reverence for our worst actions. n/t Orsino Aug 2017 #6
Reverence and the creation of a narrative that does not equate to the reality of the time. nt. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #9
Many of those monuments weren't Civil War era. Hugin Aug 2017 #7
From the op. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #8
I would like to see statues like this all over the south TexasProgresive Aug 2017 #11
when people cry "but history!" tell them about this nuxvomica Aug 2017 #12
Perfect. nt. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #13
History has been a lot kinder to the Confederates than they ever were with Benedict Arnold JonLP24 Aug 2017 #31
What happens when it is mistaken history? LeftInTX Aug 2017 #14
Clearly labeling things is important. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #15
Truth in Labeling of Statues dalton99a Aug 2017 #16
LOL!!!!! LeftInTX Aug 2017 #18
My husband is Tejano born and raised in San Antonio LeftInTX Aug 2017 #17
Put all the statues in a museum called the Hate & Ignorance Museum NightWatcher Aug 2017 #19
Now that's a great idea. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #20
Preserve that shit in museums. Get it off public properties. haveahart Aug 2017 #21
That get's my vote TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #44
We're going against an old axiom from Napoleon... Wounded Bear Aug 2017 #22
No!!! Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it! Initech Aug 2017 #23
Who wants to forget history? Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #24
Isn't that the conservative talking point? Initech Aug 2017 #26
Thank you for clearing that up. That was my point. Agree. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #27
Fixed it. Initech Aug 2017 #29
Those who re-write history are doomed to repeat it without knowing it. HopeAgain Aug 2017 #28
It isn't like those monuments mention much history JonLP24 Aug 2017 #25
And I don't want it repeated. WhiteTara Aug 2017 #30
It's not erasing history Lotusflower70 Aug 2017 #32
"This is glorification of traitors." Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #33
I don't want that Lotusflower70 Aug 2017 #35
I don't know anyone on our side who does want to glorify traitors. nt. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #36
True that Lotusflower70 Aug 2017 #37
In 1989 the east and west Germans tore the Berlin wall down. Turn CO Blue Aug 2017 #34
General Lee was opposed to Confederate monuments Nevernose Aug 2017 #39
I really don't care what his opinion on them are. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #40
If the discussion is "statues of General Lee" Nevernose Aug 2017 #41
I don't think it holds any reference at all. nt. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #46
If Obama is asked about the possibility of receiving the Medal of Freedom. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #47
Corral them in a museum of American Racism. maxsolomon Aug 2017 #42
Lee was against slavery, against rebellion, and against the idea of Confederacy grantcart Aug 2017 #43
Same with generals and leaders that had a hand in the genocide of Native Americans? LexVegas Aug 2017 #45
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