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onenote

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31. Many date to the 1890s.

Reply to yardwork (Reply #27)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 10:49 PM

Aug 2017

Most were erected during the lifetime of many who lived through the civil war, which is much different than those erected 100 years after the war. Again the point is that the purpose and/ or effect of the monuments is to sanitize the Confederacys treachery. It doesn't help mskevthat point to make erroneous and ultimately irrelevant claims about when they were built. Joy seemed to think it mattered that they were built in more recent times. She was wrong.

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The civil war monuments and statues went up in the 1960's as a response against the [View all] riversedge Aug 2017 OP

Joy is wrong!!! atreides1 Aug 2017 #1

Yes, seen enough to remember. Duppers Aug 2017 #4

She has the basic premise somewhat correct. The monuments were attempts to sanitize... Raster Aug 2017 #7

Good info, thanks. . . n/t annabanana Aug 2017 #14

Joy's premise is correct. The dates, as quoted here, are a little different. yardwork Aug 2017 #18

More than a little different onenote Aug 2017 #26

1920s instead of 1960s.... not so far off. yardwork Aug 2017 #27

Many date to the 1890s. onenote Aug 2017 #31

I disagree with you and I agree with Joy's point. yardwork Aug 2017 #33

The "Stars and Bars" is not the Battle Flag of the Army of North Virginia Lithos Aug 2017 #34

She might be conflating statues with the confederate flag pokerfan Aug 2017 #8

I did know that the rogerashton Aug 2017 #9

Joy was very wrong LWalko Aug 2017 #24

Nineteen teens, most of them. When Jim Crow was enacted. yardwork Aug 2017 #2

Within certain Southern "heritage" societies and organizations, there was a... Raster Aug 2017 #15

Yes. And the towns were charged for the statues too. yardwork Aug 2017 #17

Absolutely! Local Southern politicians -mayors, aldermen, counselmembers, etc.-... Raster Aug 2017 #21

Many Confederates put in their children's minds that the south would rise again. That the SweetieD Aug 2017 #28

Jim Crow started right after the Civil War ... kwassa Aug 2017 #30

That's all the more reason for "rebel" monuments to be removed. nt oasis Aug 2017 #3

Actually, that's not accurate... Princess Turandot Aug 2017 #5

They are treasonous malaise Aug 2017 #6

That's not true oberliner Aug 2017 #10

Joy is incorrect obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #11

All the ones I see around here are more like 1900-1920 period Lee-Lee Aug 2017 #12

Mayor of Charlottsville said the big Confed. parks and monuments were built in "Jim Crow era" wishstar Aug 2017 #13

This is an example of why I've never really warmed to Joy Reid - I've caught her too many times Midwestern Democrat Aug 2017 #16

Don't think so. sinkingfeeling Aug 2017 #19

We must also realize... kentuck Aug 2017 #20

If they are symbols of racist hate ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #22

. demmiblue Aug 2017 #23

The SPLC has a decent article on this. fleabiscuit Aug 2017 #25

This graph is very instructive gratuitous Aug 2017 #29

This is a fact based community GulfCoast66 Aug 2017 #32