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78. Make it a federal repository? Ship all the statues there...

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Wed Aug 16, 2017, 12:20 PM

Aug 2017

What the hell, ship all the Klan members there, too.

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Stone Mt. - Needs to be dynamited [View all] packman Aug 2017 OP

No. nt B2G Aug 2017 #1

Yes. kwassa Aug 2017 #10

Go away. nt XRubicon Aug 2017 #24

Imagine Towlie Aug 2017 #87

Exactly uppityperson Aug 2017 #180

WAY overdue to remove this blight... along with the pix of slave owners that adorn U.S. currency. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #177

You play into the GOP hands if you start that. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #188

Turn it into a rock climbing venue Loki Liesmith Aug 2017 #2

Re-sculpt to change the horses to donkeys. OnDoutside Aug 2017 #3

Personally, I think it could stay as long as they add the lessons of history as in my sigline hlthe2b Aug 2017 #4

I really like this solution. Raine1967 Aug 2017 #82

It could be an outdoor museum. riversedge Aug 2017 #119

It is an outdoor museum. janx Aug 2017 #134

Add tRump riding McConnell as a big turtle ProudLib72 Aug 2017 #5

Lol that made me spit out my coffee. tymorial Aug 2017 #127

"Add tRump riding McConnell as a big turtle .... LenaBaby61 Aug 2017 #184

Are we becoming the Taliban?? Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #6

Apparently. nt B2G Aug 2017 #8

Lee is not Buddha. kwassa Aug 2017 #11

destroying history is not the answer Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #15

It isn't history, it is propaganda. kwassa Aug 2017 #19

propaganda is only propaganda if you let it be Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #21

not to mention it's a recent, tacky addition, completed in the 60s Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2017 #58

Are the Germans and France destroying history by outlawing swastikas and Nazi symbols? Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2017 #29

outlawing new ones is fine Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #50

You do know that... HarmonyRockets Aug 2017 #93

I believe they were started in the 1920's Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #95

And what was their purpose HarmonyRockets Aug 2017 #99

don't know Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #101

You don't know? jberryhill Aug 2017 #130

Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #133

This thread is about the sculpture at Stone Mountain jberryhill Aug 2017 #136

I thought the carving had slavey as the foundation Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #139

Yah, and without geology, the mountain wouldn't be there jberryhill Aug 2017 #144

KKK Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #146

You don't know? LenaBaby61 Aug 2017 #185

By a sculptor who was a white supremacist and Klan member. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #100

I say what the fuck ............. Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #104

"but these emblems of white supremacy are HISTORY!" Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #106

don'tyou even fucking go there.......... next are you going to call me a racist?? Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #107

I'm calling you someone who's okay with racism; you can decide if that makes you a racist (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #108

No ..... I am one that can see the difference between an idol and art Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #110

Kindly explain to me how, exactly... Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #111

I will try Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #114

What can we learn from Stone Mountain? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #115

I will reply later today, I will ponder my reply ............ night Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #116

Much of what you say is true Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #123

And you don't see people sayng the Confederacy was noble? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #124

yes to your first question.......is not different to your third question Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #125

You're not a Southerner; you're not a Georgian, you have no dog in this fight. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #126

Now there you go again trying to smear me again as a racist Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #132

If you're sad at a symbol of white supremacy being gone? Then you kind of are in favour of evil! Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #135

For you it is that simple Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #137

A carving put up to celebrate white supremacy. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #138

I argue for he carving for the art, nothing,nothing,nothing more Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #140

It was expressly political in intent. It can't be divorced from that. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #141

It was religious in intent Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #142

"White supremacy" isn't a religion (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #143

In the South it sure as hell is Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #145

This isn't just because they owned slaves? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #148

Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #149

Which is bullshit. It was "states' rights to own slaves". Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #150

Okay ...... time for you to provide links .... ... Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #155

Seriously? Humanist_Activist Aug 2017 #158

since you don't know how to use Google, apparently: Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #159

There you go attacking me again......... thank you Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #165

I believe we are both right Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #171

That pretty much confirms that I'm right. It was slavery. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #173

I guess you only read some of my words ....... Good Night Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #175

You do know the KKK are bad guys, right? Racist murderers. Glorifying that is wrong. uppityperson Aug 2017 #183

So we should have statues of anybody from history? XRubicon Aug 2017 #39

show me one that exists today, I am not talking about creating new ones Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #52

How does destroying a statue or carving destroy history? This is a serious question as I don't uppityperson Aug 2017 #181

What do the Taliban and Buddha have to do w/ each other? JDC Aug 2017 #189

Really - Calling for a removal of an oversized in-your-face packman Aug 2017 #14

Iknow ...... lets destroy all the art you do not like .......... Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #17

but it is about domination, not history. The KKK. kwassa Aug 2017 #20

When I look at it, I see art ............ Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #22

It is a gigantic racist signpost. kwassa Aug 2017 #36

I am very sorry that it bothers you so much, I still see it as art Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #49

some art deserves to be destroyed. cvoogt Aug 2017 #55

Perhaps it's a stone version of Piss Christ. Distasteful political statement to most, art to some. TheBlackAdder Aug 2017 #72

Everyone has a right to their opinion cvoogt Aug 2017 #74

Yep, I quite agree. TheBlackAdder Aug 2017 #85

i actually saw piss christ. if you didn't know, kinda nothing pic. pansypoo53219 Aug 2017 #88

Idiots think it was an actual vessel full of urine on display. nt. Mariana Aug 2017 #96

actually it was kinda pretty, but not into religious stuff. a crucifix in a urine filled thing. pansypoo53219 Aug 2017 #97

"some art deserves to be destroyed." - saving for posterity. n/t X_Digger Aug 2017 #128

It's the same people in all these threads tipping their hand... XRubicon Aug 2017 #40

So if Trump gets impeached and his 2nd amendment people take up arms XRubicon Aug 2017 #41

no Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #53

Why not? 40-60 years from now, we could have an organization called... Humanist_Activist Aug 2017 #156

I am so sorry that you are so afraid of pieces of metal and stone Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #164

There's a difference between acknowledging history and celebrating those who participated... Humanist_Activist Aug 2017 #166

I will ask you the question I asked someone else Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #167

Considering the Atlantic slave trade was outlawed in the United States by 1808, Americans. Humanist_Activist Aug 2017 #168

not even close ........... I asked about slave traders Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #169

Are you seriously trying to justify the slave trade? And compared it to modern migrant workers? Humanist_Activist Aug 2017 #170

I wonder what is wrong with you that you can not read what is written Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #172

And I'm trying to figure out what relevance that has to the subject... Humanist_Activist Aug 2017 #174

I am attacked by you and another about my knowledge Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #179

You started with this nonsense on "state rights", being overly pedantic... Humanist_Activist Aug 2017 #182

The Buddha statues were great monuments of cultural geek tragedy Aug 2017 #42

not evertone saw them as great monuments of cultural importance. Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #54

You imagine these Confederate pro-slavery images have the value of those Judi Lynn Aug 2017 #43

My thoughts exactly sarah FAILIN Aug 2017 #46

My first thought, exactly. pintobean Aug 2017 #66

Yeah.. because that's not false equivalency at all... Amimnoch Aug 2017 #118

they stole it from me Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #121

What's the Taliban charge for that service? nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2017 #7

Military target practice. procon Aug 2017 #9

I agree. David__77 Aug 2017 #12

It is gang related grafitti in my book, and the rock should undergo a restoration. Kleveland Aug 2017 #13

Very best possible destination, the only honorable one. Judi Lynn Aug 2017 #44

When I was in high school in the 70s, the KKK had meetings there every year. CozyMystery Aug 2017 #16

Don't get me wrong, I also think it should go vanamonde Aug 2017 #18

We would have to go back to the stone age to find slave-less societies. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #23

Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #27

New poster? vanamonde Aug 2017 #57

He's been here since 2002 LittleBlue Aug 2017 #61

OH THE SLIPPERY SLOPE maxsolomon Aug 2017 #33

The three men on Stone Mountain actively fought for slavery. kwassa Aug 2017 #38

It's a tough one. Kentonio Aug 2017 #65

They werent traitors who fought to destroy the country we live in now. NYC Liberal Aug 2017 #70

Sounds reasonable vanamonde Aug 2017 #80

Trump must have read your post before his Presser! maxsolomon Aug 2017 #94

Slave owners in a less enlightened time. That doesn't make it OK, not at all. Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2017 #129

We have the technology to remove it intact. hunter Aug 2017 #25

Make it a shooting range target. Qutzupalotl Aug 2017 #26

Yes, perfect artillery practice target. roamer65 Aug 2017 #35

Germany may as well have statues of Hitler, Rommel, Himmler pangaia Aug 2017 #28

I would not put Rommel in the same category as the other two. VMA131Marine Aug 2017 #32

Thank you for updating the holes in my knowledge of history.. Appreciated.. pangaia Aug 2017 #34

Modify the carvings to represent Lincoln, VMA131Marine Aug 2017 #30

That's my first choice, although Ilsa Aug 2017 #147

The fundamental difference between Stone Mt and the Municiple Confederate Statues grantcart Aug 2017 #31

Can we leave the horses? Stunning. Nt Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #37

It looks like they're succumbing to the rising tide Retrograde Aug 2017 #45

Love your interpretation. The beauty of art. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #47

It's huge...on the side of a mountain. Lars39 Aug 2017 #48

It's on the world's largest granite outcrop which is called Stone Mountain. CottonBear Aug 2017 #60

let's dynamite it LEGALLY steve2470 Aug 2017 #51

Unrec...as already pointed out by others... GReedDiamond Aug 2017 #56

History of how it came to be: Lars39 Aug 2017 #62

I really enjoy walking up and down Stone Mountain Awsi Dooger Aug 2017 #59

Leave it be. Advertise it as a "Depiction of the Defeated." WinkyDink Aug 2017 #63

tatooes can be altered. why not the heads. make them somebody else. pansypoo53219 Aug 2017 #64

Remove the people and keep the horses. Vinca Aug 2017 #68

It is private property d_r Aug 2017 #67

It's owned by the state of Georgia. If you've never seen the park Calista241 Aug 2017 #69

I've been there d_r Aug 2017 #84

They ryan_cats Aug 2017 #71

In downtown Charleston, SC... kentuck Aug 2017 #73

The difference is the difference between Auschwitz and a statue of Hitler (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #103

It's an impressive work of art. Atman Aug 2017 #75

I'd sandblast the confederate war leaders and replace it with something Georgia could be very proud DBoon Aug 2017 #76

The Allman Brothers riding horses with the song "Midnight Rider" blasting would be great. Elwood P Dowd Aug 2017 #92

Embellish it, add the gates of hell over to the left. The_Casual_Observer Aug 2017 #77

Make it a federal repository? Ship all the statues there... JohnnyLib2 Aug 2017 #78

No thanks. Many of us live near Stone Mountain. TooStrong Aug 2017 #83

Mea Culpa! JohnnyLib2 Aug 2017 #98

The carving is bad enough. The fact the family that owned it started the KKK in Georgia is worse. Hoyt Aug 2017 #79

Carve Trump's ugly face next to them texasfiddler Aug 2017 #81

That bastard didn't make it to 51% in Georgia. dawg Aug 2017 #86

Divisive post. Georgia won't love it. Phentex Aug 2017 #90

i know. carve LOSERS in above or below them. CAUSE THEY LOST! pansypoo53219 Aug 2017 #89

Best idea!! Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2017 #102

What makes it worse is that this is a predominantly black area of Atlanta stevenleser Aug 2017 #91

Wow! OBenario4 Aug 2017 #105

we can't impose modern day standards on the past AlexSFCA Aug 2017 #109

When I was a history major, it was called the sin of presentism Yupster Aug 2017 #112

Nope, we're interpreting these monuments by the standards their creators intended. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #113

I was thinking of the historical figures more than the statues Yupster Aug 2017 #120

My great grandfather died at Gettysburg in 1913. kwassa Aug 2017 #122

Standards at the time that thing was carved? Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2017 #131

Interesting RandiFan1290 Aug 2017 #117

Nonsense, its not about the Civil War and history, its about American society and race TODAY. fleabiscuit Aug 2017 #152

This is beyond foolish. greytdemocrat Aug 2017 #151

Its literally a monument to the KKK and Confederacy... Humanist_Activist Aug 2017 #154

Thought Police next?? greytdemocrat Aug 2017 #160

When those thoughts are expressed, the board is private and against progressive... Humanist_Activist Aug 2017 #162

Hell yes is right! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #178

Just tell them there is coal underneath the monument Tribalceltic Aug 2017 #153

Just tell them there is coal underneath the monument. LenaBaby61 Aug 2017 #186

Would this be akin to destroying art? egduj Aug 2017 #157

More like the de-Nazification of Germany, post-WWII... Humanist_Activist Aug 2017 #163

I think Atlanta DSA has the right idea... Humanist_Activist Aug 2017 #161

Fixed it for you LeftInTX Aug 2017 #176

That is up to Georgia. Unless we live in Georgia, we should stay out of it. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #187