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92. Wow! There's a lot of defensive posts on this thread. I wonder why?

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The term alt-left started on racist websites in Nov 2016 for false equivalency [View all] AnotherMother4Peace Aug 2017 OP

Too bad people were using it on here... nt HopeAgain Aug 2017 #1

In a totally different context. DanTex Aug 2017 #6

Still a divisive term- I've seen it thrown around HopeAgain Aug 2017 #9

It's an accurate term, in the way the Vanity Fair article used it. DanTex Aug 2017 #12

Sorry, I have to call bullshit on the Progressives supporting Trump. They might have voted Green. jalan48 Aug 2017 #22

I wouldn't describe them as "progressives" myself, of course. DanTex Aug 2017 #25

Proof for the assertion that " plenty of self-described "progressives" voted for Trump"? jalan48 Aug 2017 #27

Did you check JPR? DanTex Aug 2017 #30

or they could be lying about being Progressive DBoon Aug 2017 #33

JPR? Seriously? Some anonymous poster says something and you turn it into "many Progressives"? jalan48 Aug 2017 #34

They could be Russian trolls spreading misinformation, I guess. DanTex Aug 2017 #37

Personally, I have not seen one self-proclaimed Progressive say they were voting for Trump. jalan48 Aug 2017 #41

Well then you didn't check JPR like I told you. DanTex Aug 2017 #45

You want me to check a site where anonymous posters say stuff and accept that as proof? jalan48 Aug 2017 #46

Not sure what kind of "proof" you're looking for. DanTex Aug 2017 #49

We don't have an alt left in this country. Alt Left would be Communism. jalan48 Aug 2017 #84

You do realize that JPR came out of DUers- self proclaimed "progressives" bettyellen Aug 2017 #56

Bernie Sanders isn't viable? Haven't pollsters found him to be the most popular American politician? YoungDemCA Aug 2017 #99

I'm talking about the future, and he is going to be way too old. bettyellen Aug 2017 #102

It orginated on hard right websites for the purpose of creating false equivalency & framing. AnotherMother4Peace Aug 2017 #16

What a giant load of shit kcr Aug 2017 #21

I don't read hard-right websites so I wouldn't know. Seems like a case of independent invention. DanTex Aug 2017 #23

Maybe people don't get that there is an alt-left and a left. I'm clear that those who have used it seaglass Aug 2017 #101

1) Trump is a liar, so keep that in mind. 2) you are left, not "alt-left" emulatorloo Aug 2017 #48

It's weird to see people taking Trumps bait on this. And denying that people who called bettyellen Aug 2017 #58

I've been recently told that no one @ DU ever uncritically posted RW sources during primary 2016 emulatorloo Aug 2017 #65

It sucks that the term has been co-opted by Trump- but he also used their complaints about HRC all bettyellen Aug 2017 #70

People seriously have short memories kcr Aug 2017 #79

It's also been a very popular term of abuse right here. QC Aug 2017 #2

Yup. You could almost say it was 'deplorable'... WoonTars Aug 2017 #3

False Equivalency zipplewrath Aug 2017 #4

Like "establishment," "Third Way," BainsBane Aug 2017 #85

No zipplewrath Aug 2017 #87

Those terms aren't used to describe people who self-identify BainsBane Aug 2017 #88

+1 The term needs to be RETIRED from DU leftstreet Aug 2017 #10

in fact G_j Aug 2017 #11

When I heard Trump use it my first thought was "does he read DU?" N/t. white_wolf Aug 2017 #63

Oh yes it was. It's also still used frequently on Twitter by bitter folks wanting division riderinthestorm Aug 2017 #17

But comparing Hillary supporters to Neo-nazis is perfectly fine n/t kcr Aug 2017 #24

No. No it's not. riderinthestorm Aug 2017 #54

I'm describing the equating of Trump's use of alt-left kcr Aug 2017 #72

Some people here are making that connection, and it's nonsense. Trump co-opts bettyellen Aug 2017 #75

Actually, it's used to describe bitter folks wanting division. DanTex Aug 2017 #28

Yes, "bitter folks wanting division" was such an ironic R B Garr Aug 2017 #42

I have but they aren't truly left or progressive then are they? riderinthestorm Aug 2017 #57

They claim to be (see JPR, for example). DanTex Aug 2017 #61

Ah. Ok. I don't write off anyone - I've even persuaded Trump voters to see their mistake riderinthestorm Aug 2017 #64

so you are using a meme created by the racist right G_j Aug 2017 #76

I don't know its origin, I've only seen it used by progressives like Joy Reid and Kos and here on DU DanTex Aug 2017 #77

In terms of Trump's use of it, G_j Aug 2017 #80

Yes, that's Trump's use. Not mine, or Joy Reid or Josh Marshall. DanTex Aug 2017 #81

A few progressives maybe.. G_j Aug 2017 #82

Agreed 100% Arazi Aug 2017 #83

I cannot believe you of all people have chimed in on this topic. Alt-left, those who espouse seaglass Aug 2017 #103

Centrist Democrats have been slapping this label on those to their left for almost a year now. stranger81 Aug 2017 #74

Wow! There's a lot of defensive posts on this thread. I wonder why? TheBlackAdder Aug 2017 #92

Of course, that's where dickheadnazi BootinUp Aug 2017 #5

I'd never heard the term until Trump said it. procon Aug 2017 #7

A nice little comment found on Facebook LovesPNW Aug 2017 #8

Huh? What is "BLM"? peaceful/rational Trump supporters? AnotherMother4Peace Aug 2017 #14

BLM Black Lives Matter Voltaire2 Aug 2017 #90

Good post DBoon Aug 2017 #36

The version I saw over and over said "Centrist" instread of "Republican Trump Supporter" m-lekktor Aug 2017 #60

I think of the alt-left as Jill Stein, or as far as DU all of those shitheads at JPR ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #13

Alt left is meant to put liberals on the same level as the alt-right LostOne4Ever Aug 2017 #15

+1 nt riderinthestorm Aug 2017 #18

Agreed. temporary311 Aug 2017 #19

What about the thread on the front page of GD with 70 recs entitled, R B Garr Aug 2017 #20

That was a deconstruction of the president's comments LostOne4Ever Aug 2017 #73

So not hideable, thanks. nt R B Garr Aug 2017 #78

+1000 LovesPNW Aug 2017 #69

regardless of its origins, it now needs to be discontinued as the orange animal is now geek tragedy Aug 2017 #26

+1000000000 n/t TubbersUK Aug 2017 #29

Ah, so "centrists" is an okay thing now. R B Garr Aug 2017 #31

how did you get that from my post? geek tragedy Aug 2017 #35

I've seen "centrists" used as a slur quite a bit more than you claim. nt R B Garr Aug 2017 #38

that's more garden variety lefty purism than anything geek tragedy Aug 2017 #40

Actually, it looked like carefully crafted divisiveness used to separate R B Garr Aug 2017 #52

Sanctimonious leftwingers have always been a thing. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #55

"corporatist" and "neoliberal" slurs look more prominent since 2015. R B Garr Aug 2017 #66

their terminology changes geek tragedy Aug 2017 #68

what term would you prefer for the political position that is to the right of the left and to the Voltaire2 Aug 2017 #91

ffs, centrist is used as a divisive and sanctimonious R B Garr Aug 2017 #93

What term would you prefer for people in the center? Voltaire2 Aug 2017 #94

Again?? By your new literal and simplistic standards, alt is just short for alternative, R B Garr Aug 2017 #95

So the answer is "no" you will continue to propagate Voltaire2 Aug 2017 #96

Yeah, Im not buying the obtuseness. R B Garr Aug 2017 #97

Agreed emulatorloo Aug 2017 #59

It's been used to imply that some people on the left are white supremacists. David__77 Aug 2017 #32

What about extreme left? Should that be banned, too? grossproffit Aug 2017 #47

I didn't call for banning anything. David__77 Aug 2017 #50

No, it is recognizing that some on the regressive left, like Susan Sarandon, Jill Stein, et al Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #67

clearly that is not how Trump used it BainsBane Aug 2017 #86

Exactly! He clearly meant to malign the left --Democrats--period. R B Garr Aug 2017 #100

and make themselves the center of discussion BainsBane Aug 2017 #104

Yes, making it all about them. I was told I was "normalizing facism" R B Garr Aug 2017 #105

Propping up hierarchy takes a lot of double talk BainsBane Aug 2017 #106

Unfortunately melman Aug 2017 #98

Well, I really prefer radical damn leftist hippie chick. raven mad Aug 2017 #39

The term alt-Left is bogus Gothmog Aug 2017 #43

Cynthia McKinney? What's the proper category for her? grossproffit Aug 2017 #44

"former congresswoman from Georgia and Green Party supporter?" David__77 Aug 2017 #51

Hate spewing antisemitic pig? grossproffit Aug 2017 #62

That's something someone can say. David__77 Aug 2017 #71

bannon would be big on that term. The_Casual_Observer Aug 2017 #53

Trumps use of alt-left is to empower the alt-right Bladewire Aug 2017 #89