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156. Why not? 40-60 years from now, we could have an organization called...

Fri Aug 18, 2017, 12:16 AM

Aug 2017

"Daughters of the alt-right rebellion" who will fund and distribute these monuments around the country, lauding the "lost cause" of those who tried to preserve traditional, white Christian culture, but then lost to the decadent hordes that are the non-whites, LGBT groups, etc.

And of course, we would have your spiritual successor, 60 years after that, defending the existence of the monuments based on nothing more than the fact that they already exist.

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Stone Mt. - Needs to be dynamited [View all] packman Aug 2017 OP

No. nt B2G Aug 2017 #1

Yes. kwassa Aug 2017 #10

Go away. nt XRubicon Aug 2017 #24

Imagine Towlie Aug 2017 #87

Exactly uppityperson Aug 2017 #180

WAY overdue to remove this blight... along with the pix of slave owners that adorn U.S. currency. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #177

You play into the GOP hands if you start that. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #188

Turn it into a rock climbing venue Loki Liesmith Aug 2017 #2

Re-sculpt to change the horses to donkeys. OnDoutside Aug 2017 #3

Personally, I think it could stay as long as they add the lessons of history as in my sigline hlthe2b Aug 2017 #4

I really like this solution. Raine1967 Aug 2017 #82

It could be an outdoor museum. riversedge Aug 2017 #119

It is an outdoor museum. janx Aug 2017 #134

Add tRump riding McConnell as a big turtle ProudLib72 Aug 2017 #5

Lol that made me spit out my coffee. tymorial Aug 2017 #127

"Add tRump riding McConnell as a big turtle .... LenaBaby61 Aug 2017 #184

Are we becoming the Taliban?? Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #6

Apparently. nt B2G Aug 2017 #8

Lee is not Buddha. kwassa Aug 2017 #11

destroying history is not the answer Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #15

It isn't history, it is propaganda. kwassa Aug 2017 #19

propaganda is only propaganda if you let it be Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #21

not to mention it's a recent, tacky addition, completed in the 60s Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2017 #58

Are the Germans and France destroying history by outlawing swastikas and Nazi symbols? Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2017 #29

outlawing new ones is fine Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #50

You do know that... HarmonyRockets Aug 2017 #93

I believe they were started in the 1920's Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #95

And what was their purpose HarmonyRockets Aug 2017 #99

don't know Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #101

You don't know? jberryhill Aug 2017 #130

Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #133

This thread is about the sculpture at Stone Mountain jberryhill Aug 2017 #136

I thought the carving had slavey as the foundation Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #139

Yah, and without geology, the mountain wouldn't be there jberryhill Aug 2017 #144

KKK Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #146

You don't know? LenaBaby61 Aug 2017 #185

By a sculptor who was a white supremacist and Klan member. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #100

I say what the fuck ............. Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #104

"but these emblems of white supremacy are HISTORY!" Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #106

don'tyou even fucking go there.......... next are you going to call me a racist?? Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #107

I'm calling you someone who's okay with racism; you can decide if that makes you a racist (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #108

No ..... I am one that can see the difference between an idol and art Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #110

Kindly explain to me how, exactly... Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #111

I will try Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #114

What can we learn from Stone Mountain? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #115

I will reply later today, I will ponder my reply ............ night Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #116

Much of what you say is true Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #123

And you don't see people sayng the Confederacy was noble? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #124

yes to your first question.......is not different to your third question Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #125

You're not a Southerner; you're not a Georgian, you have no dog in this fight. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #126

Now there you go again trying to smear me again as a racist Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #132

If you're sad at a symbol of white supremacy being gone? Then you kind of are in favour of evil! Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #135

For you it is that simple Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #137

A carving put up to celebrate white supremacy. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #138

I argue for he carving for the art, nothing,nothing,nothing more Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #140

It was expressly political in intent. It can't be divorced from that. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #141

It was religious in intent Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #142

"White supremacy" isn't a religion (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #143

In the South it sure as hell is Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #145

This isn't just because they owned slaves? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #148

Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #149

Which is bullshit. It was "states' rights to own slaves". Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #150

Okay ...... time for you to provide links .... ... Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #155

Seriously? Humanist_Activist Aug 2017 #158

since you don't know how to use Google, apparently: Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #159

There you go attacking me again......... thank you Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #165

I believe we are both right Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #171

That pretty much confirms that I'm right. It was slavery. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #173

I guess you only read some of my words ....... Good Night Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #175

You do know the KKK are bad guys, right? Racist murderers. Glorifying that is wrong. uppityperson Aug 2017 #183

So we should have statues of anybody from history? XRubicon Aug 2017 #39

show me one that exists today, I am not talking about creating new ones Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #52

How does destroying a statue or carving destroy history? This is a serious question as I don't uppityperson Aug 2017 #181

What do the Taliban and Buddha have to do w/ each other? JDC Aug 2017 #189

Really - Calling for a removal of an oversized in-your-face packman Aug 2017 #14

Iknow ...... lets destroy all the art you do not like .......... Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #17

but it is about domination, not history. The KKK. kwassa Aug 2017 #20

When I look at it, I see art ............ Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #22

It is a gigantic racist signpost. kwassa Aug 2017 #36

I am very sorry that it bothers you so much, I still see it as art Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #49

some art deserves to be destroyed. cvoogt Aug 2017 #55

Perhaps it's a stone version of Piss Christ. Distasteful political statement to most, art to some. TheBlackAdder Aug 2017 #72

Everyone has a right to their opinion cvoogt Aug 2017 #74

Yep, I quite agree. TheBlackAdder Aug 2017 #85

i actually saw piss christ. if you didn't know, kinda nothing pic. pansypoo53219 Aug 2017 #88

Idiots think it was an actual vessel full of urine on display. nt. Mariana Aug 2017 #96

actually it was kinda pretty, but not into religious stuff. a crucifix in a urine filled thing. pansypoo53219 Aug 2017 #97

"some art deserves to be destroyed." - saving for posterity. n/t X_Digger Aug 2017 #128

It's the same people in all these threads tipping their hand... XRubicon Aug 2017 #40

So if Trump gets impeached and his 2nd amendment people take up arms XRubicon Aug 2017 #41

no Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #53

Why not? 40-60 years from now, we could have an organization called... Humanist_Activist Aug 2017 #156

I am so sorry that you are so afraid of pieces of metal and stone Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #164

There's a difference between acknowledging history and celebrating those who participated... Humanist_Activist Aug 2017 #166

I will ask you the question I asked someone else Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #167

Considering the Atlantic slave trade was outlawed in the United States by 1808, Americans. Humanist_Activist Aug 2017 #168

not even close ........... I asked about slave traders Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #169

Are you seriously trying to justify the slave trade? And compared it to modern migrant workers? Humanist_Activist Aug 2017 #170

I wonder what is wrong with you that you can not read what is written Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #172

And I'm trying to figure out what relevance that has to the subject... Humanist_Activist Aug 2017 #174

I am attacked by you and another about my knowledge Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #179

You started with this nonsense on "state rights", being overly pedantic... Humanist_Activist Aug 2017 #182

The Buddha statues were great monuments of cultural geek tragedy Aug 2017 #42

not evertone saw them as great monuments of cultural importance. Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #54

You imagine these Confederate pro-slavery images have the value of those Judi Lynn Aug 2017 #43

My thoughts exactly sarah FAILIN Aug 2017 #46

My first thought, exactly. pintobean Aug 2017 #66

Yeah.. because that's not false equivalency at all... Amimnoch Aug 2017 #118

they stole it from me Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #121

What's the Taliban charge for that service? nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2017 #7

Military target practice. procon Aug 2017 #9

I agree. David__77 Aug 2017 #12

It is gang related grafitti in my book, and the rock should undergo a restoration. Kleveland Aug 2017 #13

Very best possible destination, the only honorable one. Judi Lynn Aug 2017 #44

When I was in high school in the 70s, the KKK had meetings there every year. CozyMystery Aug 2017 #16

Don't get me wrong, I also think it should go vanamonde Aug 2017 #18

We would have to go back to the stone age to find slave-less societies. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #23

Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #27

New poster? vanamonde Aug 2017 #57

He's been here since 2002 LittleBlue Aug 2017 #61

OH THE SLIPPERY SLOPE maxsolomon Aug 2017 #33

The three men on Stone Mountain actively fought for slavery. kwassa Aug 2017 #38

It's a tough one. Kentonio Aug 2017 #65

They werent traitors who fought to destroy the country we live in now. NYC Liberal Aug 2017 #70

Sounds reasonable vanamonde Aug 2017 #80

Trump must have read your post before his Presser! maxsolomon Aug 2017 #94

Slave owners in a less enlightened time. That doesn't make it OK, not at all. Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2017 #129

We have the technology to remove it intact. hunter Aug 2017 #25

Make it a shooting range target. Qutzupalotl Aug 2017 #26

Yes, perfect artillery practice target. roamer65 Aug 2017 #35

Germany may as well have statues of Hitler, Rommel, Himmler pangaia Aug 2017 #28

I would not put Rommel in the same category as the other two. VMA131Marine Aug 2017 #32

Thank you for updating the holes in my knowledge of history.. Appreciated.. pangaia Aug 2017 #34

Modify the carvings to represent Lincoln, VMA131Marine Aug 2017 #30

That's my first choice, although Ilsa Aug 2017 #147

The fundamental difference between Stone Mt and the Municiple Confederate Statues grantcart Aug 2017 #31

Can we leave the horses? Stunning. Nt Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #37

It looks like they're succumbing to the rising tide Retrograde Aug 2017 #45

Love your interpretation. The beauty of art. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #47

It's huge...on the side of a mountain. Lars39 Aug 2017 #48

It's on the world's largest granite outcrop which is called Stone Mountain. CottonBear Aug 2017 #60

let's dynamite it LEGALLY steve2470 Aug 2017 #51

Unrec...as already pointed out by others... GReedDiamond Aug 2017 #56

History of how it came to be: Lars39 Aug 2017 #62

I really enjoy walking up and down Stone Mountain Awsi Dooger Aug 2017 #59

Leave it be. Advertise it as a "Depiction of the Defeated." WinkyDink Aug 2017 #63

tatooes can be altered. why not the heads. make them somebody else. pansypoo53219 Aug 2017 #64

Remove the people and keep the horses. Vinca Aug 2017 #68

It is private property d_r Aug 2017 #67

It's owned by the state of Georgia. If you've never seen the park Calista241 Aug 2017 #69

I've been there d_r Aug 2017 #84

They ryan_cats Aug 2017 #71

In downtown Charleston, SC... kentuck Aug 2017 #73

The difference is the difference between Auschwitz and a statue of Hitler (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #103

It's an impressive work of art. Atman Aug 2017 #75

I'd sandblast the confederate war leaders and replace it with something Georgia could be very proud DBoon Aug 2017 #76

The Allman Brothers riding horses with the song "Midnight Rider" blasting would be great. Elwood P Dowd Aug 2017 #92

Embellish it, add the gates of hell over to the left. The_Casual_Observer Aug 2017 #77

Make it a federal repository? Ship all the statues there... JohnnyLib2 Aug 2017 #78

No thanks. Many of us live near Stone Mountain. TooStrong Aug 2017 #83

Mea Culpa! JohnnyLib2 Aug 2017 #98

The carving is bad enough. The fact the family that owned it started the KKK in Georgia is worse. Hoyt Aug 2017 #79

Carve Trump's ugly face next to them texasfiddler Aug 2017 #81

That bastard didn't make it to 51% in Georgia. dawg Aug 2017 #86

Divisive post. Georgia won't love it. Phentex Aug 2017 #90

i know. carve LOSERS in above or below them. CAUSE THEY LOST! pansypoo53219 Aug 2017 #89

Best idea!! Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2017 #102

What makes it worse is that this is a predominantly black area of Atlanta stevenleser Aug 2017 #91

Wow! OBenario4 Aug 2017 #105

we can't impose modern day standards on the past AlexSFCA Aug 2017 #109

When I was a history major, it was called the sin of presentism Yupster Aug 2017 #112

Nope, we're interpreting these monuments by the standards their creators intended. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2017 #113

I was thinking of the historical figures more than the statues Yupster Aug 2017 #120

My great grandfather died at Gettysburg in 1913. kwassa Aug 2017 #122

Standards at the time that thing was carved? Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2017 #131

Interesting RandiFan1290 Aug 2017 #117

Nonsense, its not about the Civil War and history, its about American society and race TODAY. fleabiscuit Aug 2017 #152

This is beyond foolish. greytdemocrat Aug 2017 #151

Its literally a monument to the KKK and Confederacy... Humanist_Activist Aug 2017 #154

Thought Police next?? greytdemocrat Aug 2017 #160

When those thoughts are expressed, the board is private and against progressive... Humanist_Activist Aug 2017 #162

Hell yes is right! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #178

Just tell them there is coal underneath the monument Tribalceltic Aug 2017 #153

Just tell them there is coal underneath the monument. LenaBaby61 Aug 2017 #186

Would this be akin to destroying art? egduj Aug 2017 #157

More like the de-Nazification of Germany, post-WWII... Humanist_Activist Aug 2017 #163

I think Atlanta DSA has the right idea... Humanist_Activist Aug 2017 #161

Fixed it for you LeftInTX Aug 2017 #176

That is up to Georgia. Unless we live in Georgia, we should stay out of it. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #187