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bvar22

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54. The LAST thing I want is a Republican President.

Sat Dec 31, 2011, 01:23 PM

Dec 2011

The 2nd to last thing I want is for the current Democratic Party Leadership
to use my vote as a mandate for more "Centrist" (Republican) Policy.

I live in a state where Obama has absolutely NO chance of winning,
so I am free to cast my vote for president as my conscience dictates.
My vote will reflect my Liberal values
without helping a Republican get elected.

Very few states will be "in play" this year,
so many can do the same without guilt.

If your state is "in play", you really should vote for Obama despite his Liberal failings.

That is called Strategic Voting.
It is one way to pressure the Party into hearing the voices of The Left
without helping Republicans.

You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
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Personally... I Think Cenk Is Correct... [View all] WillyT Dec 2011 OP

Why not? eridani Dec 2011 #1

I think Cenk Summer Hathaway Dec 2011 #2

Since when are facts a Right-wing ideology? RC Dec 2011 #6

The 'facts' being what? Summer Hathaway Dec 2011 #17

lol got root Dec 2011 #45

and Jane Hampshire makes all of her money as a Republican Consultant Capn Sunshine Dec 2011 #47

Do you watch or listen to Cenk on a regular basis? Cleita Jan 2012 #91

This message was self-deleted by its author femrap Dec 2011 #10

Well, you would probably know Summer Hathaway Dec 2011 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author femrap Dec 2011 #61

apparently not Summer Hathaway Dec 2011 #64

I hear this kind of thing prefaced by 'I think' and it makes me want facts to back it up. I roguevalley Dec 2011 #29

The preface Summer Hathaway Dec 2011 #31

I agree that we need to preface statements with "I think" if we're just stating our gateley Dec 2011 #73

Are the members of Occupy Iowa who came up with this idea also puppets? girl gone mad Dec 2011 #34

Well this is the first I've heard Summer Hathaway Dec 2011 #37

It's right in his original piece.. girl gone mad Dec 2011 #39

I stand corrected Summer Hathaway Dec 2011 #41

And mine of you. nt Snotcicles Dec 2011 #65

Great question. Actually Cenk was just reporting facts 99th_Monkey Dec 2011 #42

Your attempt to besmirch Cenk as a "puppet ...spewing RW ideology" is laughable. 99th_Monkey Dec 2011 #40

Here ya' go Tsiyu Dec 2011 #46

Wow thanks .. i'll bookmark it. nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2011 #50

No problemo n/t Tsiyu Dec 2011 #51

Marking. Thanks. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2012 #86

The icons will also work if you remember their codes and if you preface them with rusty fender Dec 2011 #55

That would be interesting if you had an example or two. rhett o rick Dec 2011 #58

Don't mind me. Just joining in the pile on that you apparently brought upon yourself Number23 Dec 2011 #76

Well ... Summer Hathaway Dec 2011 #78

"Perhaps I haven't consumed enough Cenk kool-aide - which seems to be flowing freely here." Number23 Dec 2011 #79

Happy to make your acquaintance Summer Hathaway Dec 2011 #80

I think Cenk is WRONG. Folks in Iowa need to caucus FOR President Obama and show support! n/t Tx4obama Dec 2011 #3

Yeah, I'd have to agree. calimary Dec 2011 #4

We are fracturing and fighting amongst ourselves. girl gone mad Dec 2011 #35

I know, and it drives me nuts! calimary Jan 2012 #92

The support would come in the convention DJ13 Dec 2011 #7

Any divisiveness shown in the media seen by the public is NOT a good thing Tx4obama Dec 2011 #9

What if..... DJ13 Dec 2011 #12

Ah but you forget - reality doesn't matter! hatrack Dec 2011 #27

"Showing support" means rubberstamping policy that is against the grain, at the least. TheKentuckian Dec 2011 #8

I'll be caucusing for Obama in Iowa next Tuesday. Pirate Smile Dec 2011 #13

Great to hear! :) n/t Tx4obama Dec 2011 #28

Good on you! Scurrilous Jan 2012 #87

Occupy iowa mdmc Dec 2011 #5

It's stupid because if you don't support Obama for those reasons than you can always vote 3rd party FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #11

I live in Iowa... CoffeeCat Dec 2011 #14

Start with electing Congresspeople who share your vision. All politics is local. FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #15

Until we can eliminate the big money from politics, there is no electing left candidates... rfranklin Dec 2011 #22

Yes, I would say that it's nearly IMPOSSIBLE... CoffeeCat Dec 2011 #26

After you vote for Paul in the caucus, and he loses next Tuesday, Major Hogwash Dec 2011 #18

I can't even imagine... CoffeeCat Dec 2011 #23

Oh, that makes sense. Major Hogwash Dec 2011 #30

If you think for a moment that a president Ron Paul would actually do a damned thing about Dewey Finn Dec 2011 #20

I have appreciated his foreign policy stance... CoffeeCat Dec 2011 #24

Oh sure, Ron Pauls libertarian anti-regulation pile of horseshit BootinUp Dec 2011 #32

Well said, woo me with science Dec 2011 #48

You sound like the centrists, telling people what their choices are. Leopolds Ghost Dec 2011 #66

But there ARE choices, including running for office yourself. FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #71

How does a show of disunity not hurt the candidate? Answer BootinUp Dec 2011 #16

What you are saying is that members of the party must always Step In Line. No internal democracy. Leopolds Ghost Dec 2011 #67

Not at all. I am applying it to a particular instance BootinUp Dec 2011 #70

It's ProSense Dec 2011 #21

So what would be a protest vote over NDAA ? proverbialwisdom Dec 2011 #52

Answer: Get the Military Vets involved in Occupy, you silly! Leopolds Ghost Dec 2011 #68

Cenk is a crybaby. jaxx Dec 2011 #25

K&R bahrbearian Dec 2011 #33

Totally Agree nt Raine Dec 2011 #36

i'm shocked that you'd support something to damage the president heading into an election... dionysus Dec 2011 #38

I don't get the freakout by some over this quinnox Dec 2011 #43

Dissent is unpatriotic a2liberal Dec 2011 #59

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Dec 2011 #60

Well said. nm rhett o rick Dec 2011 #75

Seems like a reasonable way to me sandyd921 Dec 2011 #44

voting for uncommitted in a caucus is the most sensible and rational alternative for progressives Douglas Carpenter Dec 2011 #49

+1 (n/t) a2liberal Dec 2011 #63

You won't stop Obama. You won't slow him down or change his course. MjolnirTime Dec 2011 #53

Obama will stop himself Hawkowl Dec 2011 #69

Your wish will not be granted. Obama will be reelected. What will you do then? MjolnirTime Jan 2012 #81

I dont think telling a poster that he wont comprehend something rhett o rick Dec 2011 #74

The LAST thing I want is a Republican President. bvar22 Dec 2011 #54

It's ProSense Dec 2011 #62

Thanks, bvar22 Dec 2011 #72

I agree... with a correction. FredStembottom Dec 2011 #56

Obama 2008 quote: "You'll have to hold my feet to the fire." Bucky Dec 2011 #77

You didn't change a thing the man is doing. MjolnirTime Jan 2012 #82

I endorse that idea. FredStembottom Jan 2012 #84

K&R (n/t) a2liberal Dec 2011 #57

What happens in the Democratic caucuses in Iowa MineralMan Jan 2012 #83

ok then. BootinUp Jan 2012 #88

Then what is the hubbub and gnashing if teeth about? Why the claims of calamity about a show of TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #89

K&R! 20score Jan 2012 #85

I'm not in Iowa so this doesn't apply to me but I have no problem with this. riderinthestorm Jan 2012 #90

It would be best to get as many Democratic and left leaning voters involved in the process mmonk Jan 2012 #93