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Yupster

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37. That was the Confederate view

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 07:14 PM

Aug 2017

Once they voted to leave the union and join the Confederacy they were no longer part of the USA. At that point they were a separate country. Therefore they couldn't be traitors against the US as they were foreign citizens. That was to be Davis's defense at his treason trial. We seceded legally. We were crushed by a foreign power which is currently occupying us.Please release me so that I can begin the task of rebuilding my hurting nation.

Today it is different. They right to secede was decided on the fields of Pennsylvania, Mississippi and Virginia and later affirmed in court.

Therefore the people today contemplating secession don't get the same deference since they know secession isn't legal.

Also, when the Constitution was ratified by the states no state thought its decision would be permanently bonding no matter how much the government changed. If that was the case it would never have been ratified in the first place.

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Did Six Flags Go too far? [View all] Catmusicfan Aug 2017 OP

"do we disappear our history completely? " Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #1

Six flags quickly changing all the flags to American ones Catmusicfan Aug 2017 #6

I do...take down the shite that reminds people to hate or the victims of such hate that it still Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #12

I don't see the relevance in the theme park making a business decision... Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #17

Should the change the name to "Same Flag, Six Times"? Ken Burch Aug 2017 #31

I would also add that this is a Trumpian and right wing theme. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #13

As with the statues and what they represent, anyone who wants to know how many political Aristus Aug 2017 #2

How many did open a history book after visiting or seeing a picture of six flags? Catmusicfan Aug 2017 #3

Not me. But I was five the last time I visited Six Flags. Aristus Aug 2017 #7

You truly do not want schools kids to learn GulfCoast66 Aug 2017 #32

Sounds like creationism to me. Just skip a lot of stuff to you can fit a time frame. Jim Beard Aug 2017 #34

I'm not sure I followed that, but whatever... Aristus Aug 2017 #45

Six Flags is a privately held commercial venture. It's not a government enterprise. stopbush Aug 2017 #4

It is now retired. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #9

Yes, I realize it is not held by the government. BUT that commerical venture Catmusicfan Aug 2017 #11

All Six Flags are now American flags LeftInTX Aug 2017 #26

It always struck me as being odd lapfog_1 Aug 2017 #5

+1 dalton99a Aug 2017 #10

Texas is an interesting example of the world back then Yupster Aug 2017 #20

Question On Your Third To Last Sentence ProfessorGAC Aug 2017 #23

No, back then the Tenth Amendment Yupster Aug 2017 #30

Not Talking About Then ProfessorGAC Aug 2017 #33

That was the Confederate view Yupster Aug 2017 #37

One thing everyone forgets... Xolodno Aug 2017 #41

An excellent post Yupster Aug 2017 #58

Many wars can be considered the result of blunders.... Xolodno Aug 2017 #62

During most of the time Texas was basically uninhabitated grantcart Aug 2017 #54

Very good point Yupster Aug 2017 #55

Why should people of color have to be reminded in an amusement park of the the long history Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #8

AND this is what I mean. Catmusicfan Aug 2017 #16

My mild post is what set you off? the confederate flag of treason flew over Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #18

Generally people think Reconstruction ended Yupster Aug 2017 #21

Reconstruction essentially ended in 1876 thucythucy Aug 2017 #57

I am assuming that the French, Spanish and Mexican people feel the same way. Jim Beard Aug 2017 #35

A bit different that. The civil war monuments were erected for those who comitted treason... Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #46

For the sake of arguement, did Six Flags over Texas display the Confederate flag for the Jim Beard Aug 2017 #50

The motivation is immaterial. The flag of treason which cost this country more soldiers Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #65

The confederacy was never a true government. So Texas was never ruled by it. SweetieD Aug 2017 #14

What's a true government? Yupster Aug 2017 #22

It was not a true government but a group of states in rebellion...treasonous Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #47

That was Lincoln's public view, but Yupster Aug 2017 #52

You sometimes bargain with essentially terrorists...it was a treasonous war. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #64

LOL. Thank you for your "concern." PSPS Aug 2017 #15

FWIW Six Flags Over Texas never used the Confederate Battle Flag TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #19

And they can lose business which is why Six Flags showed the good sense to eliminate this terrible Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #48

The business can do whatever it chooses and people can spend money there or not. davsand Aug 2017 #24

My Mother was born near Charlottesville. I lived their as a child. We were a border state Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #51

Then YOU should be required oneshooter Aug 2017 #56

My family lost everything during the civil war and were poor farmers after that. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #63

It does not matter oneshooter Aug 2017 #66

Nobody but nobody goes to six flags for a history lesson. (n/t) Iggo Aug 2017 #25

We have a Six Flags in San Antonio LeftInTX Aug 2017 #27

Why would you want to honor a traitor? DonaldsRump Aug 2017 #28

Lets try a different approach. Jim Beard Aug 2017 #39

Wait... what!? Adrahil Aug 2017 #29

+1 AgadorSparticus Aug 2017 #61

It's a motherfucking roller coaster park. Codeine Aug 2017 #36

I live in Arlington. I worked at the park in high school. tammywammy Aug 2017 #38

Completely agree.. Texasgal Aug 2017 #44

I worked there when I was a teenager OriginalGeek Aug 2017 #49

I think we can all agree that it is the INTENT of the use of the flag. Wasn't there a popular TV sho Jim Beard Aug 2017 #40

No. I'll tell you why and I'm gonna make this simple: Raine1967 Aug 2017 #42

Its nothing more than marketing ploy on history. Xolodno Aug 2017 #43

FFS, removing monuments and emblems to those who waged a bloody war against Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2017 #53

I don't think displaying the Marschall flag in a historical context is horribly offensive Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2017 #59

No the actions of Six Flags were very very appropriate Gothmog Aug 2017 #60

Which is not the obligation or the mission statement of an amusement park... LanternWaste Aug 2017 #67