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Yupster

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30. So, I gather you don't like Lee. That's fine but
Sun Aug 20, 2017, 01:08 PM
Aug 2017

but don't let your dislike become nonsense. As example, you said ...

"the only one of his subordinate commanders to survive the war was Longstreet, and even he had been badly wounded."

Using Lee's most famous defeat at Gettysburg as the example of when his army was at its strongest, he divided the ANV into three corps, each of three divisions.

First Corps (Longstreet)

Longstreet died in 1904
Pickett died in 1875
Hood died in 1879
McClaws died in 1897

Second Corps (Ewell)

Ewell died in 1872
Early died in 1894
Allegheny Johnson died in 1873
Rodes died on Sept 19, 1864

Third Corps (Hill)

AP Hill died on April 2, 1865
Robert Anderson died in 1879
Heth died in 1899
Pender died on July 18, 1863

As you can see, most of his principal; subordinates did survive the war. It was indeed a dangerous job especially in the Confederate Army where they were normally outnumbered and outgunned.

I note that most of the deaths were late in the war when generals made desperate attempts to keep things together. Pender died from his wound at Gettysburg.

Lee did fight against the United States union... defacto7 Aug 2017 #1
and what pray tell does that change? DonCoquixote Aug 2017 #2
What does that change..... defacto7 Aug 2017 #7
not killing or Mercy DonCoquixote Aug 2017 #16
The specifics of this statement.. defacto7 Aug 2017 #18
What Lee did was usual, choosing his state over the federal government Yupster Aug 2017 #10
Love to hear history spelled out. defacto7 Aug 2017 #14
a good quote DonCoquixote Aug 2017 #17
Grant's rise came rather late in the war. When Lee declined the offer, probably no one, save... NNadir Aug 2017 #11
Thanks for posting these historic details.... defacto7 Aug 2017 #13
A comment just for the sake of historical accuracy. The Union Army had 3 generals before Grant. GulfCoast66 Aug 2017 #20
"This side of the conflict believes in genocide and breaking their eggs at the small end. Aristus Aug 2017 #34
Angela Rye on CNN just said that the Washington and Jefferson statues also need to come down oberliner Aug 2017 #3
that can be debated DonCoquixote Aug 2017 #4
I agree with you oberliner Aug 2017 #5
Kind of broad. We can judge Lee because he chose defacto7 Aug 2017 #8
The US revolution delayed the end of slavery Yupster Aug 2017 #9
Your right. But the British empire didn't create defacto7 Aug 2017 #15
"The British empire didn't create a government thucythucy Aug 2017 #26
"The British empire ended slavery long before the USA did." EX500rider Aug 2017 #19
Thirty one years is a long time thucythucy Aug 2017 #27
Most northern US states abolished slavery before the British Empire did oberliner Aug 2017 #23
But then the Fugitive Slave Act thucythucy Aug 2017 #28
As did Andrew Jackson Ex Lurker Aug 2017 #21
Hear, hear! Missn-Hitch Aug 2017 #6
Lee and Washington were both slave owning traitors Nevernose Aug 2017 #12
Going out on a limb here... GulfCoast66 Aug 2017 #22
I will go even further than you did Yupster Aug 2017 #24
His mentor and commander was a Virginian as well and didn't become a traitor. NNadir Aug 2017 #25
Thanks for this post. thucythucy Aug 2017 #29
So, I gather you don't like Lee. That's fine but Yupster Aug 2017 #30
I despise Lee, but I was referring to immediate subordinates AP Hill and Jackson, corps commanders. NNadir Aug 2017 #31
You bring up interesting topics for discussion Yupster Aug 2017 #33
Well, I certainly feel that vitriol is the appropriate way to view Robert E. Lee. NNadir Aug 2017 #35
Most of that is Jim Crow, Lost Cause propaganda Nevernose Aug 2017 #32
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