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In reply to the discussion: Trump is Done [View all]delisen
(7,348 posts)44. Not true. We have political solutions.
Show me the the line in the Constitution that that says a vice-president upon ascension to the presidency (but facing possible prosecution for crimes which led to his illegitimately becoming vp), can't make a deal to name a member of a different political party from his own or someone who does not belong to a political party, as his new vp and then resign, in order to lessen his punishment.
The 25th amendment specifies a method of succession, nothing more. It also does not address political parties. A president, to fill a vp vacancy may propose as vp anyone who has the basic qualifications to be president.
The Constitution does not address plea bargaining-yet it is a big part of our justice system.
Gerald Ford was named by the-almost-certain-to-be-impeached Nixon as vp. There is nothing in the Constitution to have prevented Nixon from naming a Democrat.
It was merely politically unlikely that that he would do so. Besides, Democrats in Congress were comfortable with Gerald Ford.
However Nixon was never suspected of colluding with a foreign power to attain the presidency-just covering up his administration's burglary of the opposite party's headquarters, shakedowns of corporations and various domestic crimes.
He was never suspected of making deals with the USSR or China to fix the election of 1972.
We are in new political territory here. we don't know how far into the Republican Party the Russians infiltrated. Pence?, Mc Connell?. Ryan?. Nunes?
We. may never know because the investigators may decide to focus on money laundering, for example.
But the Constitution does not prevent the scenario I proposed.
Politics may stand in the way. Our own political will for justice may stand in the way.
I personally like the concept of justice. I like to see wrongs righted on a large scale. I think one of the weaknesses of the Democratic Party has been lack of appropriate outrage in the face of the attacks upon our democracy.
We tend to think small, while the anti-democracy forces keep marching over us.
I think non-Democrats see us as weak because we don't demand justice.
How many times have I heard Democrats say that we have to work extra-hard to get out the vote because Republicans cheat.
Cheating the vote is outrageous, and the response should be outrage-not acceptance and "who can we run in 2020?"
If we don't stand strong now, it doesn't matter who we run in 2020.
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LOL I know what you mean. Maybe it's because I haven't watched cable news in months.
jalan48
Aug 2017
#3
Yes the massive repeal and replacement of Obamacare was a major Trump accomplishment
emulatorloo
Aug 2017
#31
We had a chance in November but voters blew it...what saddens me is some called themselves
Demsrule86
Aug 2017
#59
He will go one way or the other...resignation or the 25th...he has obstructed justice...and is
Demsrule86
Aug 2017
#14
Didn't watch cnn but I think Trump is done too. I think it was McConnell himself who was the
SweetieD
Aug 2017
#7
It feels that way to me. It's no longer an act, Trump is unhinged and he will be forced out.
jalan48
Aug 2017
#10
There is no mechanism in our Republic to make a person president. Once the electoral college has
Demsrule86
Aug 2017
#15
It's unfortunate seeing as the electoral col members who voted for Trump sold out the US to Putin
ck4829
Aug 2017
#17
There is no point in pursuing this. When Trump goes, GOP will take his place.
Demsrule86
Aug 2017
#49
The reason we have Gorsuch is because stupid voters elected Trump...you have to have the majority
Demsrule86
Aug 2017
#58
True...but we lost the Senate...we didn't have to...had our people turned out, there would be no
Demsrule86
Aug 2017
#63
Democrats have to understand that they must vote for Democrats period...and you
Demsrule86
Aug 2017
#65
The GOP would have no mechanism to overturn an election either...bitch though they might.
Demsrule86
Aug 2017
#16
Honestly, I think we should focus on getting Trump out. Deal making for a Clinton Presidency will
jalan48
Aug 2017
#35
If we did that, the the Russia investigation would appear to be totally political
CanonRay
Aug 2017
#39
Not quite yet. Trump has a small base of very committed (cult-like) followers.
Oneironaut
Aug 2017
#23
For profit media. They are not our friends. They are chasing the money and creating the news.
Weekend Warrior
Aug 2017
#36